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	Comments on: Alain de Botton Clarifies the Caleb Crain Response	</title>
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		By: Mandy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 04:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See I&#039;ve gotten over it already..you&#039;re back on my good books de Botton, excusing the pun!]]></description>
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		By: Mandy		</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/alain-de-botton-clarifies-the-caleb-crain-response/comment-page-1/#comment-383628</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 04:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m studying philosophy at the moment and a lot of our set texts come from de Botton. I&#039;ve also enjoyed his YouTube clips on early philosophers. So really started to like the guy...He appeared on Australian TV in 2014 (ABC One Plus One) which is the first I heard of this spat, when during the interview he explained his outburst on the fact the review came from a &#039;friend&#039; and therefore was &quot;particularly nasty&quot;. So on seeing the above statement from de Botton, that he did not know Crain prior, I&#039;m wondering &quot;what is the truth Alain&#039;.? I think, because he does feature in university curriculums and is an established author, the reaction was surprising. In the interview in Australia he states that celebrities should be those who, for instance, are great forgivers, rather than the ones we see or look up to.  

All I know is that I&#039;ve had awful things said to me, as have all people, yet I would never  &quot;hate someone till the day I die&quot; let alone say this.  But if that&#039;s the consolation of his philosophy so be it but I find it sad, as I loved his writings.  Hating is prevalent, and destroys the soul.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m studying philosophy at the moment and a lot of our set texts come from de Botton. I&#8217;ve also enjoyed his YouTube clips on early philosophers. So really started to like the guy&#8230;He appeared on Australian TV in 2014 (ABC One Plus One) which is the first I heard of this spat, when during the interview he explained his outburst on the fact the review came from a &#8216;friend&#8217; and therefore was &#8220;particularly nasty&#8221;. So on seeing the above statement from de Botton, that he did not know Crain prior, I&#8217;m wondering &#8220;what is the truth Alain&#8217;.? I think, because he does feature in university curriculums and is an established author, the reaction was surprising. In the interview in Australia he states that celebrities should be those who, for instance, are great forgivers, rather than the ones we see or look up to.  </p>
<p>All I know is that I&#8217;ve had awful things said to me, as have all people, yet I would never  &#8220;hate someone till the day I die&#8221; let alone say this.  But if that&#8217;s the consolation of his philosophy so be it but I find it sad, as I loved his writings.  Hating is prevalent, and destroys the soul.</p>
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		By: Summer Rollercoaster:: 500 Days of Summer &#124; Temp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Alain&#8217;s Twitter response to a negative review on ThickCulture and here&#8217;s a link to an interview he granted on the subject. In any case, I wonder is the &#8220;product placement&#8221; will boost [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Alain&#8217;s Twitter response to a negative review on ThickCulture and here&#8217;s a link to an interview he granted on the subject. In any case, I wonder is the &#8220;product placement&#8221; will boost [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Alain de Botton: Cum să gândim mai mult despre sex și despre pesimism &#124; Bookaholic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 11:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: The Follies of Emotional Expression : Edward Champion&#8217;s Reluctant Habits		</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/alain-de-botton-clarifies-the-caleb-crain-response/comment-page-1/#comment-258015</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] could probably include many other visceral explosions in recent history. Sherman Alexie, Alain de Botton, Alice Hoffman, Michael Richards, Christian Bale, or Don Imus all come to mind. But the above items [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] could probably include many other visceral explosions in recent history. Sherman Alexie, Alain de Botton, Alice Hoffman, Michael Richards, Christian Bale, or Don Imus all come to mind. But the above items [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: The Liminal Librarian &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On authors and hissy fits		</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/alain-de-botton-clarifies-the-caleb-crain-response/comment-page-1/#comment-256811</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] I was pleased to see some new rantiness appear. Here is just part of a mind-boggling example: In last Sunday’s New York Times Book Review, Caleb [...]]]></description>
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		By: Alain de Botton: The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work &#171; Asylum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] bad-tempered responses to his critics. The most renowned of these spats is succinctly reported here, and includes de Botton&#8217;s reaction to the whole affair. There were others too. Irrespective [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] bad-tempered responses to his critics. The most renowned of these spats is succinctly reported here, and includes de Botton&#8217;s reaction to the whole affair. There were others too. Irrespective [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Reviews and reactions &#171; Tantamount Words		</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/alain-de-botton-clarifies-the-caleb-crain-response/comment-page-1/#comment-256294</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] de Botton has clarified his outburst via an interview and essay on Edward Champion&#8217;s Reluctant Habits blog. Towards the end of the essay, de Botton says: &#8220;My conclusion is that one has to be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] de Botton has clarified his outburst via an interview and essay on Edward Champion&#8217;s Reluctant Habits blog. Towards the end of the essay, de Botton says: &#8220;My conclusion is that one has to be [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: How Should An Author Handle Negative Reviews? &#124; Hey Lady! Whatcha Readin'?		</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/alain-de-botton-clarifies-the-caleb-crain-response/comment-page-1/#comment-256248</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] author was Alain de Botton, and Edward Champion interviewed Alain de Botton after he confirmed that Alain had, in fact, left that comment. Alain also guest posted on Edward [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] author was Alain de Botton, and Edward Champion interviewed Alain de Botton after he confirmed that Alain had, in fact, left that comment. Alain also guest posted on Edward [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Robin Fletcher		</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/alain-de-botton-clarifies-the-caleb-crain-response/comment-page-1/#comment-256245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin Fletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait to read the book!]]></description>
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		By: James Marcus		</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/alain-de-botton-clarifies-the-caleb-crain-response/comment-page-1/#comment-256244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve Augustine&#039;s comment above has prompted me to wade in again. Of course authors have always responded to their critics, but the rule of thumb is: if you&#039;re going to return fire, you&#039;d better produce something smarter and wittier than the original review. Nabokov&#039;s obliteration of Edmund Wilson is probably the best example in contemporary letters. You almost feel sorry for Wilson--it&#039;s like watching somebody fight a duel with a swizzle stick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Augustine&#8217;s comment above has prompted me to wade in again. Of course authors have always responded to their critics, but the rule of thumb is: if you&#8217;re going to return fire, you&#8217;d better produce something smarter and wittier than the original review. Nabokov&#8217;s obliteration of Edmund Wilson is probably the best example in contemporary letters. You almost feel sorry for Wilson&#8211;it&#8217;s like watching somebody fight a duel with a swizzle stick.</p>
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		By: Christopher Ryan		</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/alain-de-botton-clarifies-the-caleb-crain-response/comment-page-1/#comment-256208</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve enjoyed several of ADB&#039;s books but found his outrage unjustified. The reviewer found the author&#039;s tone to be a bit dismissive. So? Do reviewers not have the right to express such reactions just because you worked on a project for a few years? Grow up, man.

It seems to me that ADB&#039;s response confirms Crain&#039;s sense of his tone in that if de Botton really did respect the workers he profiled (people with menial jobs), he&#039;d understand that being an independently wealthy, well-known author means you never get to bitch about a bad review ruining three years of your precious labor. Please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed several of ADB&#8217;s books but found his outrage unjustified. The reviewer found the author&#8217;s tone to be a bit dismissive. So? Do reviewers not have the right to express such reactions just because you worked on a project for a few years? Grow up, man.</p>
<p>It seems to me that ADB&#8217;s response confirms Crain&#8217;s sense of his tone in that if de Botton really did respect the workers he profiled (people with menial jobs), he&#8217;d understand that being an independently wealthy, well-known author means you never get to bitch about a bad review ruining three years of your precious labor. Please.</p>
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		By: Richard Grayson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Grayson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This all is news to me, so I come to it not having heard anything about it before reading this blog.  I read the review by Mr. Crain and it led me to put a hold on Mr. de Bottom&#039;s book at the public library -- a non-book-buyer&#039;s (or a cheapskate&#039;s) equivalent of a purchase.  Yes, the review was pretty bad, but for me, the reviewer made the book sound interesting enough that I wanted to see it for myself.

Our reptilian brain is at work in these impulsive responses.  I&#039;ve done it, too, both on blogs and in email.  It was so much easier to rely on the difficulty of writing a letter, putting it an envelope, finding a postage stamp and affixing it, going to the nearest mailbox, etc. - because it allowed time for reflection and cooling off.

Having had two books reviewed in the New York Times Book Review - both, I&#039;d say, mildly favorably, somewhat more positive than negative - I have to say neither seemed to have any effect on my meager sales.  But that probably isn&#039;t true for well-known writers with major books like this author&#039;s.

Thanks, Ed, for this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all is news to me, so I come to it not having heard anything about it before reading this blog.  I read the review by Mr. Crain and it led me to put a hold on Mr. de Bottom&#8217;s book at the public library &#8212; a non-book-buyer&#8217;s (or a cheapskate&#8217;s) equivalent of a purchase.  Yes, the review was pretty bad, but for me, the reviewer made the book sound interesting enough that I wanted to see it for myself.</p>
<p>Our reptilian brain is at work in these impulsive responses.  I&#8217;ve done it, too, both on blogs and in email.  It was so much easier to rely on the difficulty of writing a letter, putting it an envelope, finding a postage stamp and affixing it, going to the nearest mailbox, etc. &#8211; because it allowed time for reflection and cooling off.</p>
<p>Having had two books reviewed in the New York Times Book Review &#8211; both, I&#8217;d say, mildly favorably, somewhat more positive than negative &#8211; I have to say neither seemed to have any effect on my meager sales.  But that probably isn&#8217;t true for well-known writers with major books like this author&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Thanks, Ed, for this.</p>
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		By: The Daily Square &#8211; Chega de Saudade Edition &#124; Booksquare		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Alain de Botton Clarifies the Caleb Crain ResponseAlain de Botton both clarifies his response and reveals a not atypical misunderstanding of online communication. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Alain de Botton Clarifies the Caleb Crain ResponseAlain de Botton both clarifies his response and reveals a not atypical misunderstanding of online communication. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Alain de Botton Is Sorry, Sort Of &#124; News Fu		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] In an interview with Ed Champion, Alain de Botton &#8212; the author who inadvisably left angry comments on the personal blog of the New York Times Book Review critic who slammed his book last Sunday &#8212; says that if he could go back in time, he&#8217;d tell himself, &#8220;Put this message in an envelope, not on the Internet.&#8221; [Ed Champion] [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] In an interview with Ed Champion, Alain de Botton &#8212; the author who inadvisably left angry comments on the personal blog of the New York Times Book Review critic who slammed his book last Sunday &#8212; says that if he could go back in time, he&#8217;d tell himself, &#8220;Put this message in an envelope, not on the Internet.&#8221; [Ed Champion] [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Sloganeering.Org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; De Botton &#38; Crain: Further Remarks		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] reading Ed Champion&#8217;s interview with Alain de Botton, and the essay that accompanied it, some reconsideration may be in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] reading Ed Champion&#8217;s interview with Alain de Botton, and the essay that accompanied it, some reconsideration may be in [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Vulture		</title>
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		By: Angry Authors and the Instant Fishbowl - ArtsBeat Blog - NYTimes.com		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Talk about meta. Authors have long responded to their critics — in person, through the mail and on the letters pages of book reviews. Now, in the age of online social media, such responses are immediately amplified to the world. The novelist Alice Hoffman discovered last weekend that a few angry outbursts on Twitter could ricochet through the literary biosphere within minutes. Alain de Botton followed suit after posting a harsh comment on the blog of Caleb Crain, who had reviewed Mr. de Botton’s latest work, “The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work,” for The New York Times Book Review. Mr. de Botton didn’t like the review, and fired back: “I will hate you till the day I die and wish you nothing but ill will in every career move you make.” Ouch. The literary blogger Edward Champion gave Alain de Botton ample opportunity to explain himself. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Talk about meta. Authors have long responded to their critics — in person, through the mail and on the letters pages of book reviews. Now, in the age of online social media, such responses are immediately amplified to the world. The novelist Alice Hoffman discovered last weekend that a few angry outbursts on Twitter could ricochet through the literary biosphere within minutes. Alain de Botton followed suit after posting a harsh comment on the blog of Caleb Crain, who had reviewed Mr. de Botton’s latest work, “The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work,” for The New York Times Book Review. Mr. de Botton didn’t like the review, and fired back: “I will hate you till the day I die and wish you nothing but ill will in every career move you make.” Ouch. The literary blogger Edward Champion gave Alain de Botton ample opportunity to explain himself. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Sloganeering.Org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Tales of Super-Maturity		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Ed Champion gets de Botton&#8217;s side of the story in an interview and also posts an essay from the man explaining his actions. Highly recommended, as both go some [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ed Champion gets de Botton&#8217;s side of the story in an interview and also posts an essay from the man explaining his actions. Highly recommended, as both go some [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Joe Clark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It isn’t that Botton was “interested... in patroni[z]ing and insulting people who had jobs.” It wasn’t intentional. It’s just bred in the bone for this rich intellectual author. He wasn’t “mocking anyone who worked,” just the “illiterate Indian Ocean sailors” and “swede”-fancying career counsellors he profiled. Somebody else who ends up being mocked is &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.fawny.org/category/the-print-medium/books/debotton/&quot; title=&quot;Mocking Alain de Botton&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Botton himself&lt;/a&gt;.

Anyone who cannot detect the snobbery and indeed condescension in the book must be a condescending snob. But who bakes their cookies, clubs their tuna to death, balances their books, and outfits their “aeroplane” interiors?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn’t that Botton was “interested&#8230; in patroni[z]ing and insulting people who had jobs.” It wasn’t intentional. It’s just bred in the bone for this rich intellectual author. He wasn’t “mocking anyone who worked,” just the “illiterate Indian Ocean sailors” and “swede”-fancying career counsellors he profiled. Somebody else who ends up being mocked is <a href="http://blog.fawny.org/category/the-print-medium/books/debotton/" title="Mocking Alain de Botton" rel="nofollow">Botton himself</a>.</p>
<p>Anyone who cannot detect the snobbery and indeed condescension in the book must be a condescending snob. But who bakes their cookies, clubs their tuna to death, balances their books, and outfits their “aeroplane” interiors?</p>
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		By: Levi Stahl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Levi Stahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve not read de Botton&#039;s book, but I wonder whether he acknowledges that even his specific project has, in a sense, been undertaken before; even leaving out ancient Henry Mayhew, we&#039;ve got Studs Terkel&#039;s &lt;I&gt;Working&lt;/I&gt; decades ago, and John and Marisa Bowe and Sabine Streeter&#039;s &lt;I&gt;Gig&lt;/I&gt; quite recently. 

And there is at least some literature out there that takes account of our work lives. Off the top of my head: the granddaddy of them all, &quot;Bartleby the Scrivener&quot;; Orwell&#039;s bookshop scenes in &lt;I&gt;Keep the Aspidistra Flying&lt;/I&gt;; James Gould Cozzens&#039;s WWII novel &lt;I&gt;Guard of Honor&lt;/I&gt;; and of our current office-bound life, Ed Park&#039;s &lt;I&gt;Personal Days&lt;/I&gt; and Joshua Ferris&#039;s &lt;I&gt;And Then We Came to the End&lt;/I&gt;. {Actually, now that I go looking, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/in-search-of-novels-about-working-life-447460.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is a solid roundup of fiction about work.}]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not read de Botton&#8217;s book, but I wonder whether he acknowledges that even his specific project has, in a sense, been undertaken before; even leaving out ancient Henry Mayhew, we&#8217;ve got Studs Terkel&#8217;s <i>Working</i> decades ago, and John and Marisa Bowe and Sabine Streeter&#8217;s <i>Gig</i> quite recently. </p>
<p>And there is at least some literature out there that takes account of our work lives. Off the top of my head: the granddaddy of them all, &#8220;Bartleby the Scrivener&#8221;; Orwell&#8217;s bookshop scenes in <i>Keep the Aspidistra Flying</i>; James Gould Cozzens&#8217;s WWII novel <i>Guard of Honor</i>; and of our current office-bound life, Ed Park&#8217;s <i>Personal Days</i> and Joshua Ferris&#8217;s <i>And Then We Came to the End</i>. {Actually, now that I go looking, <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/in-search-of-novels-about-working-life-447460.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> is a solid roundup of fiction about work.}</p>
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		By: Sam Jordison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Jordison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems odd that his only regret - after wishing Crain &quot;nothing but ill will in every career move you make&quot; is to have made these very unpleasant comments in public. He regrets that others have read them. Not that he was vicious and cruel himself. How would you feel having an independently wealthy and extremely powerful figure in your industry wishing failure upon you?

For what it&#039;s worth, many of Crain&#039;s objections seemed legit to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems odd that his only regret &#8211; after wishing Crain &#8220;nothing but ill will in every career move you make&#8221; is to have made these very unpleasant comments in public. He regrets that others have read them. Not that he was vicious and cruel himself. How would you feel having an independently wealthy and extremely powerful figure in your industry wishing failure upon you?</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, many of Crain&#8217;s objections seemed legit to me.</p>
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		By: Regional Accent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Regional Accent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to say I don&#039;t understand the argument. Either something is acceptable on any arena or it is not. 
I didn&#039;t mind the comments, and if anything found them funny. However, if I had written them I would perhaps have wanted to apologise for their strength at a later date, which it appears Alain didn&#039;t want to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I don&#8217;t understand the argument. Either something is acceptable on any arena or it is not.<br />
I didn&#8217;t mind the comments, and if anything found them funny. However, if I had written them I would perhaps have wanted to apologise for their strength at a later date, which it appears Alain didn&#8217;t want to.</p>
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		By: Steven Augustine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Augustine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A fresh wind is blowing gently, gently at the musty web of traditional lit affinities/ power klatsches/ style mafias... and the old white spiders are scurrying. 

&quot;I think that a writer should respond to a critic within a relatively private arena. I don’t believe in writing letters to the newspaper. I do believe in writing, on occasion, to the critics directly.&quot;

Not everyone agrees with this. An articulate, heated (and therefore sincere) exchange between intelligent enemies can be rich/ enriching. The over-mediated speech of Commerce (and Politics) is an empty form. 

Make your case in a public forum: it should be part of the job. Resting on your laurels in an ivory tower of your agent-and-publisher&#039;s making won&#039;t do. Even Nabokov swung hard at silly Wilson... right in front of everyone. Are you fancier than Nabokov?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fresh wind is blowing gently, gently at the musty web of traditional lit affinities/ power klatsches/ style mafias&#8230; and the old white spiders are scurrying. </p>
<p>&#8220;I think that a writer should respond to a critic within a relatively private arena. I don’t believe in writing letters to the newspaper. I do believe in writing, on occasion, to the critics directly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not everyone agrees with this. An articulate, heated (and therefore sincere) exchange between intelligent enemies can be rich/ enriching. The over-mediated speech of Commerce (and Politics) is an empty form. </p>
<p>Make your case in a public forum: it should be part of the job. Resting on your laurels in an ivory tower of your agent-and-publisher&#8217;s making won&#8217;t do. Even Nabokov swung hard at silly Wilson&#8230; right in front of everyone. Are you fancier than Nabokov?</p>
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		By: Alain de Botton on Responding to Critics : Edward Champion&#8217;s Reluctant Habits		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] is the second of an interconnected two part response involving Alain de Botton. In addition to answering my questions, Alain de Botton was very gracious to send along this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is the second of an interconnected two part response involving Alain de Botton. In addition to answering my questions, Alain de Botton was very gracious to send along this [&#8230;]</p>
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