That is why I believe this precedent goes beyond what you did. This is not a scale game. I’m measuring this on a linear level.

Does that clear things up?

What I don’t get, is how “This goes well beyond Josh Wolf refusing to turn over evidence,” maybe it does, but as you said, “let us be clear on this,” and I honestly don’t feel you were clear at all about how this goes beyond my own past saga.

Don’t get me wrong, arresting journalists is one of the first signs of Fascism (but this is hardly the first incident – I’ve been arrested at three SF protests, and in none of those situations did I, violate the law, refuse a police order, or interfere with police). But I feel that when a government tries to force a journalist to do their bidding under the real or perceived threat of jail that it goes beyond simple arrests.

I was ordered to turn over video material that did not contain any criminal acts and attempts to prove that by letting the judge see the video himself were rebuked.

The government sought my testimony in an attempt to identify protesters, and not to investigate a crime. In fact, the judge acknowledged that the Federal government’s jurisdiction in the matter was tenuous and might not stand in any theoretical trial that never happened.

Now, if the charges against the journalists are not dropped, without prejudice and with due diligence, then I would have to agree with you that this situation is far worse than the one I faced.

But unless that does happen, I can’t really see how this goes beyond what happened to me. Maybe you can help me see where you’re coming from.

What do they expect those journalists to do–commit news? Oooh, that’s a crime now, yep.
I never used to believe all those razor-wired holding pens out in the middle of nowhere must be for someone–now, i’m not so sure anymore.

Welcome to Russia.