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	<title>Comments on: The Devil and Miss Cody</title>
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		<title>By: Massive Linkdump, Part 1 &#124; The Pandemonium Of The Sun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Massive Linkdump, Part 1 &#124; The Pandemonium Of The Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I present a glimpse of how my mind works, 10 articles at a time: The End Of The Road via Scanners The Devil and Miss Cody via Edward Champion&#8217;s Reluctant Habits Alton Brown Pizza Dough Videos via Slice Power Moby [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I present a glimpse of how my mind works, 10 articles at a time: The End Of The Road via Scanners The Devil and Miss Cody via Edward Champion&#8217;s Reluctant Habits Alton Brown Pizza Dough Videos via Slice Power Moby [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kiala</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/the-devil-and-miss-cody/comment-page-1/#comment-241387</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;m a little late to the party, but thank you for this.

Diablo Cody makes me want to lie down in a small dark room and quietly suffocate myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;m a little late to the party, but thank you for this.</p>
<p>Diablo Cody makes me want to lie down in a small dark room and quietly suffocate myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/the-devil-and-miss-cody/comment-page-1/#comment-241166</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could the Laura Albert in your comments be the same one I posted about on Jacket Copy? Is &quot;JT Leroy&quot; really that much better a pseudonym than &quot;Diablo Cody&quot;? Awfully unkind comments from someone who is herself the focus of a &quot;whatever happened to...&quot; article. 

I know -- it&#039;s probably just someone using &quot;Laura Albert&quot; as an ironic pseudonym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could the Laura Albert in your comments be the same one I posted about on Jacket Copy? Is &#8220;JT Leroy&#8221; really that much better a pseudonym than &#8220;Diablo Cody&#8221;? Awfully unkind comments from someone who is herself the focus of a &#8220;whatever happened to&#8230;&#8221; article. </p>
<p>I know &#8212; it&#8217;s probably just someone using &#8220;Laura Albert&#8221; as an ironic pseudonym.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Cranky</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/the-devil-and-miss-cody/comment-page-1/#comment-241134</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Cranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should raise the age of being eligible for Oscars to 35, like if you want to run for the Presidency. Or is that age the minimum for running for the Senate? But you get what I mean. Ah, Miss Diablo Cody is like Moby Dick to our great collective Ahab this week...I have yet to see her movie, but oh I&#039;ve had my share of lapdances so even though I&#039;ve never met the woman, I feel somehow I know her through her spiritual sisters in the g-string sorority...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should raise the age of being eligible for Oscars to 35, like if you want to run for the Presidency. Or is that age the minimum for running for the Senate? But you get what I mean. Ah, Miss Diablo Cody is like Moby Dick to our great collective Ahab this week&#8230;I have yet to see her movie, but oh I&#8217;ve had my share of lapdances so even though I&#8217;ve never met the woman, I feel somehow I know her through her spiritual sisters in the g-string sorority&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A.R.Yngve</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.R.Yngve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen &lt;i&gt;Juno&lt;/i&gt; so I can&#039;t judge it... but I know that a movie where the characters spoke like &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; teenagers would be a barrage of nigh-incomprehensible gutterspeak mixed with cringe-inducing inanity, pathetic whining and empty threats.

I doubt that even real teenagers want to hear what they actually sound like. So the choice is to lie to the audience: &quot;See how cool and suave you are!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen <i>Juno</i> so I can&#8217;t judge it&#8230; but I know that a movie where the characters spoke like <i>real</i> teenagers would be a barrage of nigh-incomprehensible gutterspeak mixed with cringe-inducing inanity, pathetic whining and empty threats.</p>
<p>I doubt that even real teenagers want to hear what they actually sound like. So the choice is to lie to the audience: &#8220;See how cool and suave you are!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Secretly Ironic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Way Better Than Juno&#8217;s Hamburger Phone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Secretly Ironic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Way Better Than Juno&#8217;s Hamburger Phone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] know people like Ed Champion thought &#8220;Juno&#8221; was precious and not in a good way. I enjoyed it. I was not overwhelmed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] know people like Ed Champion thought &#8220;Juno&#8221; was precious and not in a good way. I enjoyed it. I was not overwhelmed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Corey V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Ed. The Life Aquatic was fantastic.

So you mean &quot;Wes Anderson’s films after The Royal Tenenbaums (But not including The Life Aquatic)&quot; right?

Otherwise, I may cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Ed. The Life Aquatic was fantastic.</p>
<p>So you mean &#8220;Wes Anderson’s films after The Royal Tenenbaums (But not including The Life Aquatic)&#8221; right?</p>
<p>Otherwise, I may cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Maher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Maher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only Award movie I&#039;ve seen was &quot;The Savages,&quot; which I admired, but would have found difficult to watch except for Laura Linney and PS Hoffman. It wasn&#039;t fun, although I did suspect the script was well written and much of the movie was wryly funny.

Without a TV, I missed the Oscar ceremonies, too, and have only read about them. 

&quot;Shot down like an old dog.&quot; (?)

Your overstatement always gooses me with a naughty thrill, Ed. Prone to over-the-top statements myself, I naturally marvel that you make them work. The machine-gun criticism I&#039;m forever trying to duck is &quot;hyperbole.&quot; That one word brands me as ridiculous and perpetually unworthy of further consideration. Any tips on how I move from &quot;hyperbole&quot; to &quot;a little much?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only Award movie I&#8217;ve seen was &#8220;The Savages,&#8221; which I admired, but would have found difficult to watch except for Laura Linney and PS Hoffman. It wasn&#8217;t fun, although I did suspect the script was well written and much of the movie was wryly funny.</p>
<p>Without a TV, I missed the Oscar ceremonies, too, and have only read about them. </p>
<p>&#8220;Shot down like an old dog.&#8221; (?)</p>
<p>Your overstatement always gooses me with a naughty thrill, Ed. Prone to over-the-top statements myself, I naturally marvel that you make them work. The machine-gun criticism I&#8217;m forever trying to duck is &#8220;hyperbole.&#8221; That one word brands me as ridiculous and perpetually unworthy of further consideration. Any tips on how I move from &#8220;hyperbole&#8221; to &#8220;a little much?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Hilderman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Hilderman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really... I was pretty baffled by most of the nominees... Clayton was dead by about the 40 minute mark due to its awful script, Ratatouille is a damn CG kids film, and The Savages was, to be honest, a bit of a snooze...

Juno itself was completley mediocre... I definitely enjoyed it for what it was, laughed quite a bit, and recommended it to friends... but was left talking more about its flaws than its merits with everyone afterwards.

It deserved some praise, but the Juno-mania/obsession currently sweeping the nation is not only stupid, but possibly dangerous... for the many reasons cited by the backlash.

I dunno whether she should be &#039;shot down like an old dog&#039; though... however ridiculous the world of Juno may be, that kind of criticism is what [i]I[/i] would call piss poor writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really&#8230; I was pretty baffled by most of the nominees&#8230; Clayton was dead by about the 40 minute mark due to its awful script, Ratatouille is a damn CG kids film, and The Savages was, to be honest, a bit of a snooze&#8230;</p>
<p>Juno itself was completley mediocre&#8230; I definitely enjoyed it for what it was, laughed quite a bit, and recommended it to friends&#8230; but was left talking more about its flaws than its merits with everyone afterwards.</p>
<p>It deserved some praise, but the Juno-mania/obsession currently sweeping the nation is not only stupid, but possibly dangerous&#8230; for the many reasons cited by the backlash.</p>
<p>I dunno whether she should be &#8217;shot down like an old dog&#8217; though&#8230; however ridiculous the world of Juno may be, that kind of criticism is what [i]I[/i] would call piss poor writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Abigail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not having seen either &lt;i&gt;The Savages&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Lars and the Real Girl&lt;/i&gt;, I can&#039;t make an informed judgment about the deserving winner of this year&#039;s best original screenplay Oscar.  I certainly wouldn&#039;t have given it to &lt;i&gt;Michael Clayton&lt;/i&gt;, as that film succeeds in spite of its shapeless script, and because of excellent performances and effective direction.  I probably would have gone for &lt;i&gt;Ratatouille&lt;/i&gt;, which takes an old, familiar story and does it exceptionally well.

That said, I don&#039;t think Cody&#039;s script is nearly as bad as you say.  The question of whether the dialogue is artificial is irrelevant.  Like &lt;i&gt;Brick&lt;/i&gt;, the question is whether the film&#039;s artifice is sustained.  I don&#039;t think it is, but neither did I find it a complete failure, and the excesses of the dialogue were more than made up for by the film&#039;s compassion towards and insight into every single one of its characters.  &lt;i&gt;Juno&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s popularity is completely out of proportion to its merits, but those merits are not insignificant.

All of which is to say that we strongly disagree, which is fine and hardly the first time, but this:

&lt;i&gt;despite Cody’s penchant for taking off her clothes&lt;/i&gt;

is way out of line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not having seen either <i>The Savages</i> or <i>Lars and the Real Girl</i>, I can&#8217;t make an informed judgment about the deserving winner of this year&#8217;s best original screenplay Oscar.  I certainly wouldn&#8217;t have given it to <i>Michael Clayton</i>, as that film succeeds in spite of its shapeless script, and because of excellent performances and effective direction.  I probably would have gone for <i>Ratatouille</i>, which takes an old, familiar story and does it exceptionally well.</p>
<p>That said, I don&#8217;t think Cody&#8217;s script is nearly as bad as you say.  The question of whether the dialogue is artificial is irrelevant.  Like <i>Brick</i>, the question is whether the film&#8217;s artifice is sustained.  I don&#8217;t think it is, but neither did I find it a complete failure, and the excesses of the dialogue were more than made up for by the film&#8217;s compassion towards and insight into every single one of its characters.  <i>Juno</i>&#8217;s popularity is completely out of proportion to its merits, but those merits are not insignificant.</p>
<p>All of which is to say that we strongly disagree, which is fine and hardly the first time, but this:</p>
<p><i>despite Cody’s penchant for taking off her clothes</i></p>
<p>is way out of line.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter L. Winkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter L. Winkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If awards ceremonies are anything to go by, Hollywood is in trouble.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Awards ceremonies aren&#039;t anything to go by. That&#039;s your mistake right there. They&#039;re popularity contests. No one is entitled to an award. Tamara Jenkins screenplay was produced. If the existence of &lt;i&gt;Juno&lt;/i&gt; somehow precluded the existence of Jenkin&#039;s film, you might have a case that some injustice was done. So she didn&#039;t get an award. So what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If awards ceremonies are anything to go by, Hollywood is in trouble.</p></blockquote>
<p>Awards ceremonies aren&#8217;t anything to go by. That&#8217;s your mistake right there. They&#8217;re popularity contests. No one is entitled to an award. Tamara Jenkins screenplay was produced. If the existence of <i>Juno</i> somehow precluded the existence of Jenkin&#8217;s film, you might have a case that some injustice was done. So she didn&#8217;t get an award. So what?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, tell us how you REALLY feel. Honest to blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, tell us how you REALLY feel. Honest to blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I don&#039;t really know if Reitman is really the best judge of character on this. I saw Juno twice; first time through I enjoyed it though it was clearly too clever for its own good. Second time through I was really put off by the shitty direction - it bothered me much, much more than the script.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t really know if Reitman is really the best judge of character on this. I saw Juno twice; first time through I enjoyed it though it was clearly too clever for its own good. Second time through I was really put off by the shitty direction &#8211; it bothered me much, much more than the script.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Czobit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Czobit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing about Cody.

I saw &quot;Juno&quot; when it debuted at the Toronto film festival in September last year. 

Cody and Reitman spoke after the screening. Reitman recalled when he first came across Cody&#039;s script he read page after page waiting for Cody to make a mistake. But gosh darn it, she never did: she got it right the first time. 

At that point, she hadn&#039;t started writing another screenplay; who knows what the Oscar will embolden her to write next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing about Cody.</p>
<p>I saw &#8220;Juno&#8221; when it debuted at the Toronto film festival in September last year. </p>
<p>Cody and Reitman spoke after the screening. Reitman recalled when he first came across Cody&#8217;s script he read page after page waiting for Cody to make a mistake. But gosh darn it, she never did: she got it right the first time. </p>
<p>At that point, she hadn&#8217;t started writing another screenplay; who knows what the Oscar will embolden her to write next.</p>
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		<title>By: downstreamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>downstreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Juno&quot; is not that bad.  It&#039;s just not that good either.  The reason it&#039;s not that good is the script.  Sixteen year old girls are generally not as articulate as Juno, so there goes your verisimilitude out the window for starters.  Screenplay award?  That&#039;s ironic.  The other thing about sixteen year old girls is that are generally not so flip about being pregnant.  That doesn&#039;t work, either.  So yeah, there&#039;s a lot to feel unconnected to in this movie.
Still, there&#039;s an interesting little flip that goes on as Jennifer Garner&#039;s &quot;yuppie mom caricature&quot; evolves into something more substantial even as the husband devolves from hipster nice-guy to self-centered schmuck.  There is something going on in &quot;Juno&quot;, but not enough to merit this egregious award.  True.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Juno&#8221; is not that bad.  It&#8217;s just not that good either.  The reason it&#8217;s not that good is the script.  Sixteen year old girls are generally not as articulate as Juno, so there goes your verisimilitude out the window for starters.  Screenplay award?  That&#8217;s ironic.  The other thing about sixteen year old girls is that are generally not so flip about being pregnant.  That doesn&#8217;t work, either.  So yeah, there&#8217;s a lot to feel unconnected to in this movie.<br />
Still, there&#8217;s an interesting little flip that goes on as Jennifer Garner&#8217;s &#8220;yuppie mom caricature&#8221; evolves into something more substantial even as the husband devolves from hipster nice-guy to self-centered schmuck.  There is something going on in &#8220;Juno&#8221;, but not enough to merit this egregious award.  True.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Czobit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Czobit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Ed&#039;s sentiments. Cody&#039;s victory is only another example of the Oscar&#039;s irrelevance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ed&#8217;s sentiments. Cody&#8217;s victory is only another example of the Oscar&#8217;s irrelevance.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think I would find someone who hated Juno more than I did, but I guess I did. For my money, though, Margot  at the Wedding should have been nominated for and won the Oscar for Best Orig. Scrply.

Don&#039;t worry, Ed, Diablo Cody (still the lamest pseud I have ever heard) will be a &quot;Whatever Happened To...&quot; article in 15 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think I would find someone who hated Juno more than I did, but I guess I did. For my money, though, Margot  at the Wedding should have been nominated for and won the Oscar for Best Orig. Scrply.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Ed, Diablo Cody (still the lamest pseud I have ever heard) will be a &#8220;Whatever Happened To&#8230;&#8221; article in 15 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Stephenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Stephenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh: &quot;If this were a just universe, the appropriate executives would have taken Cody out behind the shed shortly after reading Juno and shot her down like an old dog.&quot;

That&#039;s a bit much, Ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh: &#8220;If this were a just universe, the appropriate executives would have taken Cody out behind the shed shortly after reading Juno and shot her down like an old dog.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit much, Ed.</p>
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		<title>By: May Barber</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/the-devil-and-miss-cody/comment-page-1/#comment-241042</link>
		<dc:creator>May Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The return of the reluctant! Welcome back old Ed. I&#039;ve missed you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The return of the reluctant! Welcome back old Ed. I&#8217;ve missed you.</p>
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