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		<title>By: Der steinige Weg zur Online-Besprechungskultur &#171; Internationale Krimis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Der steinige Weg zur Online-Besprechungskultur &#171; Internationale Krimis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wichtigen Hinweis zur Art und Weise der Besprechungen (3) macht Edward Champion, der nicht nur auf die Interaktion zwischen Rezensenten und Leser hinweist, sondern noch viel mehr [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wichtigen Hinweis zur Art und Weise der Besprechungen (3) macht Edward Champion, der nicht nur auf die Interaktion zwischen Rezensenten und Leser hinweist, sondern noch viel mehr [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, only a small percentage of the world&#039;s population has access to electricity and computers, which means print media will last for some time. Also, if we consider the possibility of peak oil, minerals, and food, shortages caused by climate change, and major financial problems worldwide, then it is likely that we will also see a decline in computer and Internet resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, only a small percentage of the world&#8217;s population has access to electricity and computers, which means print media will last for some time. Also, if we consider the possibility of peak oil, minerals, and food, shortages caused by climate change, and major financial problems worldwide, then it is likely that we will also see a decline in computer and Internet resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Are book-bloggers killing journal reviewers? &#171; Book Crazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are book-bloggers killing journal reviewers? &#171; Book Crazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have responded out of anger than logic. There are, however, some exceptions - like this piece at edrants which gives another aspect to the debate, and logically [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DrMabuse</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/the-future-of-newspapers-and-litblogs-a-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-246519</link>
		<dc:creator>DrMabuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clive:  Thanks for weighing in.  I agree with you that the targeted nature of blogs is a small problem.  (Since this website does not always dwell on literature, I&#039;ve noticed that some RSS subscribers get cheesed off whenever I dwell on, say, a lengthy history of Verizon.)  

Nevertheless, you underestimate the value of the link, memes, and the networked nature of online discussion.  (See Reddit, Metafilter, Fark, et al.)  Specific offerings on blogs can be linked and deemed important just as newspaper articles can.  What I find is that the newspapers, who really should be linking around in the way that Frank Wilson does, have been pretending as if blogs don&#039;t exist, while openly pilfering many of these new approaches from the blogosphere without credit and even sending bloggers pitch emails begging bloggers to link to them.  (Maybe they should actually HIRE the bloggers and other passionate voices instead.)  

While there is a certain authority that newspapers have, the trust networks that Persona Non Data alludes to in his very interesting post (linked in his above comment) have created a scenario in which getting WITHIN that trust network is arguably just as important as getting a book review.

As to your suggestion that book review sections are read by more than just plain bibliophiles, I know for a fact (people write to me) that there are people who read this site and who are more curious about my voice than the books that I write about.

Some publicists, like Yen Cheong, who maintains the excellent Book Publicity Blog, really do understand the possibilities of these new conduits.  And yes, the work is certainly harder on all fronts -- whether you are a freelancer, a publicist, or an author -- to justify your existence.  But if a publicist wishes to keep her head in the sand about PRESENT developments, then this seems to me a foolhardy way to sell books (and isn&#039;t that the publishing industry&#039;s goal in the end?).  For people who read blogs and listen to podcasts ALSO buy books.  In fact, because of the specific niche, they may be MORE inclined to buy books.  Which means that the time to set up a sustainable revenue model is long overdue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clive:  Thanks for weighing in.  I agree with you that the targeted nature of blogs is a small problem.  (Since this website does not always dwell on literature, I&#8217;ve noticed that some RSS subscribers get cheesed off whenever I dwell on, say, a lengthy history of Verizon.)  </p>
<p>Nevertheless, you underestimate the value of the link, memes, and the networked nature of online discussion.  (See Reddit, Metafilter, Fark, et al.)  Specific offerings on blogs can be linked and deemed important just as newspaper articles can.  What I find is that the newspapers, who really should be linking around in the way that Frank Wilson does, have been pretending as if blogs don&#8217;t exist, while openly pilfering many of these new approaches from the blogosphere without credit and even sending bloggers pitch emails begging bloggers to link to them.  (Maybe they should actually HIRE the bloggers and other passionate voices instead.)  </p>
<p>While there is a certain authority that newspapers have, the trust networks that Persona Non Data alludes to in his very interesting post (linked in his above comment) have created a scenario in which getting WITHIN that trust network is arguably just as important as getting a book review.</p>
<p>As to your suggestion that book review sections are read by more than just plain bibliophiles, I know for a fact (people write to me) that there are people who read this site and who are more curious about my voice than the books that I write about.</p>
<p>Some publicists, like Yen Cheong, who maintains the excellent Book Publicity Blog, really do understand the possibilities of these new conduits.  And yes, the work is certainly harder on all fronts &#8212; whether you are a freelancer, a publicist, or an author &#8212; to justify your existence.  But if a publicist wishes to keep her head in the sand about PRESENT developments, then this seems to me a foolhardy way to sell books (and isn&#8217;t that the publishing industry&#8217;s goal in the end?).  For people who read blogs and listen to podcasts ALSO buy books.  In fact, because of the specific niche, they may be MORE inclined to buy books.  Which means that the time to set up a sustainable revenue model is long overdue.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s two important factors that you didn&#039;t appear to consider as why publicists would be concerned about the loss of review sections:
-The review sections get read by people who don&#039;t read blogs. A blog is a destination; you have to know about the blog and make an effort to go there, while a book review section is something you stumble across while sifting through the paper; it&#039;s part of a larger vessel. Lose the review section, and you lose a lot of people who would never hear about a book otherwise.
-Reviews in a print review section are a commodity that the publicists need to stay employed. Every publicist is held accountable as part of her job--she needs to be able to go to her boss, and authors, and show what reviews or placements she was able to land. I would suspect that many executives (and authors for that matter) still don&#039;t get blogs and blogging, so unfair as it is to the book blogs (and the publicists), blog reviews don&#039;t carry the same weight with those execs. So now the onus will be on publicists not only to &#039;sell&#039; books to potential reviewers, but also to sell the bosses they answer to on the idea that Blogs X, Y and Z are legit avenues of publicity--and to an indifferent boss, that can reek of desperation. As a result, the publicist&#039;s workload doubles, and regardless of what profession you&#039;re in, no one wants to work twice as hard to achieve the same results. Accordingly, yeah, they don&#039;t want the review sections to go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s two important factors that you didn&#8217;t appear to consider as why publicists would be concerned about the loss of review sections:<br />
-The review sections get read by people who don&#8217;t read blogs. A blog is a destination; you have to know about the blog and make an effort to go there, while a book review section is something you stumble across while sifting through the paper; it&#8217;s part of a larger vessel. Lose the review section, and you lose a lot of people who would never hear about a book otherwise.<br />
-Reviews in a print review section are a commodity that the publicists need to stay employed. Every publicist is held accountable as part of her job&#8211;she needs to be able to go to her boss, and authors, and show what reviews or placements she was able to land. I would suspect that many executives (and authors for that matter) still don&#8217;t get blogs and blogging, so unfair as it is to the book blogs (and the publicists), blog reviews don&#8217;t carry the same weight with those execs. So now the onus will be on publicists not only to &#8217;sell&#8217; books to potential reviewers, but also to sell the bosses they answer to on the idea that Blogs X, Y and Z are legit avenues of publicity&#8211;and to an indifferent boss, that can reek of desperation. As a result, the publicist&#8217;s workload doubles, and regardless of what profession you&#8217;re in, no one wants to work twice as hard to achieve the same results. Accordingly, yeah, they don&#8217;t want the review sections to go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Personanondata</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/the-future-of-newspapers-and-litblogs-a-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-246515</link>
		<dc:creator>Personanondata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, Completely agree and my response to Warren&#039;s article was much less artful but I conclude:

Lastly, who was reading the reviews in all these newspaper reviews sections anyway? Most people in the US who read (and that&#039;s not many) only read one book a year. That book is likely to be something like the Da Vinci Code, a diet book, Dr Phil or an Ophra pick so what&#039;s the return? It is (was) a mystery. Not so on the web. These evolving trust networks concentrated around people who love books, talk about books and opine about books provide publishers with a window on the community they never had. Stop with the whining and recognise that as a publisher you have a tremendous opportunity to understand your consumer in ways you never could before. Rather than lamenting the demise of the newspaper, publishers should be rejoicing in front of the window to a vibrant community of book lovers and opinion makers.
http://personanondata.blogspot.com/2008/08/trust-in-book-lovers-not-reviewers.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, Completely agree and my response to Warren&#8217;s article was much less artful but I conclude:</p>
<p>Lastly, who was reading the reviews in all these newspaper reviews sections anyway? Most people in the US who read (and that&#8217;s not many) only read one book a year. That book is likely to be something like the Da Vinci Code, a diet book, Dr Phil or an Ophra pick so what&#8217;s the return? It is (was) a mystery. Not so on the web. These evolving trust networks concentrated around people who love books, talk about books and opine about books provide publishers with a window on the community they never had. Stop with the whining and recognise that as a publisher you have a tremendous opportunity to understand your consumer in ways you never could before. Rather than lamenting the demise of the newspaper, publishers should be rejoicing in front of the window to a vibrant community of book lovers and opinion makers.<br />
<a href="http://personanondata.blogspot.com/2008/08/trust-in-book-lovers-not-reviewers.html" rel="nofollow">http://personanondata.blogspot.com/2008/08/trust-in-book-lovers-not-reviewers.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ThePublishingSpot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThePublishingSpot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Publishing Spotted: Link Heaven...&lt;/strong&gt;

Some days I just wake up and everything I see on the Internet seems worth sharing. Today is one of those days. What&#039;s your deadline? Novelist Catherynne M. Valente has a post that all writers lacking in personal deadlines should......</description>
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<p>Some days I just wake up and everything I see on the Internet seems worth sharing. Today is one of those days. What&#39;s your deadline? Novelist Catherynne M. Valente has a post that all writers lacking in personal deadlines should&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Morning Brief &#8212; Thursday, July 31 &#171; The Book Publicity Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morning Brief &#8212; Thursday, July 31 &#171; The Book Publicity Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Champion offers up some thoughts about print vs. blog book coverage.  GalleyCat weighs in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Champion offers up some thoughts about print vs. blog book coverage.  GalleyCat weighs in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost in the Machine</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/the-future-of-newspapers-and-litblogs-a-thought-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-246482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost in the Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;He Loved Big Brother....&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;April the 4th, 1984. To the past, or to the future. To an age when thought is free. From the......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>He Loved Big Brother&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;April the 4th, 1984. To the past, or to the future. To an age when thought is free. From the&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a thoughtful and interesting essay in what&#039;s become a tiresome antagonism between print book reviews and lit blogs. What bothers me in particular is that those who come down on lit blogs are making an enemy of the folks who might be their biggest allies. While the lit blog community challenges print book reviews to be their best--and we should be open to those that challenge us--NO ONE in Bloggerville thinks print reviews are pointless, or deserve to go the way of the LA Times book section. We write these reviews, after all, we avidly read them, we want insightful and innovative literary commentary to flourish in print AND online. 

Is that so much to ask? Let&#039;s not get distracted by the petty finger-pointing, and instead move forward with what&#039;s best in our mediums, take some risks, and go exploring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a thoughtful and interesting essay in what&#8217;s become a tiresome antagonism between print book reviews and lit blogs. What bothers me in particular is that those who come down on lit blogs are making an enemy of the folks who might be their biggest allies. While the lit blog community challenges print book reviews to be their best&#8211;and we should be open to those that challenge us&#8211;NO ONE in Bloggerville thinks print reviews are pointless, or deserve to go the way of the LA Times book section. We write these reviews, after all, we avidly read them, we want insightful and innovative literary commentary to flourish in print AND online. </p>
<p>Is that so much to ask? Let&#8217;s not get distracted by the petty finger-pointing, and instead move forward with what&#8217;s best in our mediums, take some risks, and go exploring.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re looking for a patron, methinks, not a sponsor, and I&#039;m not sure I see how being beholden to a single sugardaddy (mommy?) makes one less vulnerable to corruption than grabbing the goods from many.

Patron, sponsor, subscriber, advertiser: whatever it may be, I wish you luck in the pursuit of rent money.... I know my daydreams are more consumed with notions of cash than my girlish writerly self would ever have guessed they would be...

Thanks for this interesting post, Ed!--Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re looking for a patron, methinks, not a sponsor, and I&#8217;m not sure I see how being beholden to a single sugardaddy (mommy?) makes one less vulnerable to corruption than grabbing the goods from many.</p>
<p>Patron, sponsor, subscriber, advertiser: whatever it may be, I wish you luck in the pursuit of rent money&#8230;. I know my daydreams are more consumed with notions of cash than my girlish writerly self would ever have guessed they would be&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for this interesting post, Ed!&#8211;Anne</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Staggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Staggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, here. Mr. Champion. 
Lively and insightful commentary regarding books and their authors may be found easily with only a minimum of effort. While I do find the decline of the newspaper book column regrettable, I see it as part of an ongoing evolutionary shift of the conversation from monologue to dialog between readers, authors and critics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, here. Mr. Champion.<br />
Lively and insightful commentary regarding books and their authors may be found easily with only a minimum of effort. While I do find the decline of the newspaper book column regrettable, I see it as part of an ongoing evolutionary shift of the conversation from monologue to dialog between readers, authors and critics.</p>
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