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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/this-week-in-literalism/comment-page-1/#comment-235116</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty soon, based on the findings of this study of narcissistic behavior, Pharmecutical companies will have a pill that will cure narcissism. I agree with Ed. RIDICULOUS!!!!! It is just going to turn into another marketing vehicle for corporate pill pushers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty soon, based on the findings of this study of narcissistic behavior, Pharmecutical companies will have a pill that will cure narcissism. I agree with Ed. RIDICULOUS!!!!! It is just going to turn into another marketing vehicle for corporate pill pushers.</p>
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		<title>By: FreakyBeaky</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/this-week-in-literalism/comment-page-1/#comment-194340</link>
		<dc:creator>FreakyBeaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for fuck&#039;s sake - &#039;barkingkitten&#039; above SHOULD read &#039;FreakyBeaky&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for fuck&#8217;s sake &#8211; &#8216;barkingkitten&#8217; above SHOULD read &#8216;FreakyBeaky&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: barkingkitten</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/this-week-in-literalism/comment-page-1/#comment-192696</link>
		<dc:creator>barkingkitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Consumer debt among recent college graduates is growing exponentially, and all the studies of their behavior indicates that they don’t see trouble on the horizon. They’re much more likely to live beyond their means than ever before.&lt;/i&gt;

Those things are true of all American adults.

Also, could the fact that today&#039;s college freshmen think it is &#039;very important&#039; to be well of have anything to do with the fact that it IS very important to be well off?  We are a society  of the rich, the poor, and the economically insecure, shrinking middle.  If you fall off the boat, you drown.  No health care, probably not another good-paying job in your life, bankruptcy protection harder to qualify for than ever before, etc., etc., etc.  If that&#039;s what today&#039;s freshmen think, they&#039;re right.  

Don&#039;t blame the kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Consumer debt among recent college graduates is growing exponentially, and all the studies of their behavior indicates that they don’t see trouble on the horizon. They’re much more likely to live beyond their means than ever before.</i></p>
<p>Those things are true of all American adults.</p>
<p>Also, could the fact that today&#8217;s college freshmen think it is &#8216;very important&#8217; to be well of have anything to do with the fact that it IS very important to be well off?  We are a society  of the rich, the poor, and the economically insecure, shrinking middle.  If you fall off the boat, you drown.  No health care, probably not another good-paying job in your life, bankruptcy protection harder to qualify for than ever before, etc., etc., etc.  If that&#8217;s what today&#8217;s freshmen think, they&#8217;re right.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t blame the kids.</p>
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		<title>By: May Barber</title>
		<link>http://www.edrants.com/this-week-in-literalism/comment-page-1/#comment-191955</link>
		<dc:creator>May Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If harold had bothered to read the article, he would have seen that the degree of narcissism is measured by using a standardized inventory (same kind of thing as Meyers-Briggs) that has been administered yearly since 1982. Given that the test is standardized it doesn&#039;t need to be the &quot;same person&quot; who administers the test. 

&quot;Personality&quot; may be a subjective thing, but measuring personality traits can indeed be done using this kind of tool. It doesn&#039;t necessarily explain or predict behavior, but it&#039;s the exact kind of thing psychaiatrists use to diagnose something like depression. Of course narcissism isn&#039;t new, but again, if you read the article, which summarizes the study, you&#039;d find that what we would consider narcissistic attitudes in a much higher percentage of the population than in previous generations.

Now, I imagine there&#039;s benefits as well as problems with increasing narcissism and they quote some &quot;experts&quot; in the article discussing such. Personally, I see it as more of a negative than a positive, particularly when paired with other findings they cite which shows  that today 75% of college freshmen say that it is &quot;very important&quot; to be very well off, as compared to 44% in 1966.

One can debate the effects of these changes, but to deny that these are changes in attitudes seems to be a kind of willful ignorance.

Ed seems to maintain that they&#039;ll get theirs when confronted with reality. My feeling is that their desire to be &quot;very well off&quot; combined with increased narcissism is a recipe for serious problems, problems of a greater magnitude than faced in previous generations. At some point, attitudes will reset, parents will become less permissive, young people will rebel against the attitudes of the previous generation, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s unreasonable to believe that there&#039;s going to be a rocky ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If harold had bothered to read the article, he would have seen that the degree of narcissism is measured by using a standardized inventory (same kind of thing as Meyers-Briggs) that has been administered yearly since 1982. Given that the test is standardized it doesn&#8217;t need to be the &#8220;same person&#8221; who administers the test. </p>
<p>&#8220;Personality&#8221; may be a subjective thing, but measuring personality traits can indeed be done using this kind of tool. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily explain or predict behavior, but it&#8217;s the exact kind of thing psychaiatrists use to diagnose something like depression. Of course narcissism isn&#8217;t new, but again, if you read the article, which summarizes the study, you&#8217;d find that what we would consider narcissistic attitudes in a much higher percentage of the population than in previous generations.</p>
<p>Now, I imagine there&#8217;s benefits as well as problems with increasing narcissism and they quote some &#8220;experts&#8221; in the article discussing such. Personally, I see it as more of a negative than a positive, particularly when paired with other findings they cite which shows  that today 75% of college freshmen say that it is &#8220;very important&#8221; to be very well off, as compared to 44% in 1966.</p>
<p>One can debate the effects of these changes, but to deny that these are changes in attitudes seems to be a kind of willful ignorance.</p>
<p>Ed seems to maintain that they&#8217;ll get theirs when confronted with reality. My feeling is that their desire to be &#8220;very well off&#8221; combined with increased narcissism is a recipe for serious problems, problems of a greater magnitude than faced in previous generations. At some point, attitudes will reset, parents will become less permissive, young people will rebel against the attitudes of the previous generation, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unreasonable to believe that there&#8217;s going to be a rocky ride.</p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how is narcissism measured?  is the same person that interviewed the previous generations interviewing these kids?  if yes, what does that mean?  if no? 
and, to begin with, isn&#039;t gauging someone&#039;s personality a subjective thing?  

narcissism isn&#039;t new.  
and just because you peruse myspace or youtube doesn&#039;t make you a narcissist.  that&#039;s like saying every time I sing, &quot;My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty,&quot; I&#039;m automatically being a narcissist, you know, because it has a fucking &#039;my&#039; in it.  i&#039;m sure if they had myspace during the 20s all the flappers would being tearing that shit to pieces.  sorry, I agree with ed: complete and utter horseshit.  if there are a lot of narcissists today it&#039;s only because there are more people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how is narcissism measured?  is the same person that interviewed the previous generations interviewing these kids?  if yes, what does that mean?  if no?<br />
and, to begin with, isn&#8217;t gauging someone&#8217;s personality a subjective thing?  </p>
<p>narcissism isn&#8217;t new.<br />
and just because you peruse myspace or youtube doesn&#8217;t make you a narcissist.  that&#8217;s like saying every time I sing, &#8220;My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty,&#8221; I&#8217;m automatically being a narcissist, you know, because it has a fucking &#8216;my&#8217; in it.  i&#8217;m sure if they had myspace during the 20s all the flappers would being tearing that shit to pieces.  sorry, I agree with ed: complete and utter horseshit.  if there are a lot of narcissists today it&#8217;s only because there are more people.</p>
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		<title>By: May Barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>May Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the last person to give creedence to the dreaded trend story, particularly when it quotes a professor citing MySpace, and usually a trend story like this in a mainstream spot like CNN means the trend is over, but I wouldn&#039;t be so quick to dismiss these findings.

Number 1, the study it&#039;s based on is a comparison with previous generations. The students are, according to these criteria, more narcissistic than their predecessors.

The question of whether or not this is a problem is an open one, granted, but your, real-life will humble them theory is just as oversimplified. 

They don&#039;t need a savings account to keep things going, they just need to tap in to the nearly unlimited supply of short term credit, or, in many cases of the upper middle to upper classes, the nearly unlimited supply from over-indulgent parents. Consumer debt among recent college graduates is growing exponentially, and all the studies of their behavior indicates that they don&#039;t see trouble on the horizon. They&#039;re much more likely to live beyond their means than ever before.

Ultimately, things will come crashing down, but the trough will be much deeper before, more bankruptcies, more broken relationships, less ability to purchase homes, etc...

I don&#039;t really worry about this stuff because it&#039;s totally cyclical. The next generation will see the profligacy of this one and revolt against it, but that doesn&#039;t mean that this generation isn&#039;t facing some problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the last person to give creedence to the dreaded trend story, particularly when it quotes a professor citing MySpace, and usually a trend story like this in a mainstream spot like CNN means the trend is over, but I wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to dismiss these findings.</p>
<p>Number 1, the study it&#8217;s based on is a comparison with previous generations. The students are, according to these criteria, more narcissistic than their predecessors.</p>
<p>The question of whether or not this is a problem is an open one, granted, but your, real-life will humble them theory is just as oversimplified. </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t need a savings account to keep things going, they just need to tap in to the nearly unlimited supply of short term credit, or, in many cases of the upper middle to upper classes, the nearly unlimited supply from over-indulgent parents. Consumer debt among recent college graduates is growing exponentially, and all the studies of their behavior indicates that they don&#8217;t see trouble on the horizon. They&#8217;re much more likely to live beyond their means than ever before.</p>
<p>Ultimately, things will come crashing down, but the trough will be much deeper before, more bankruptcies, more broken relationships, less ability to purchase homes, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really worry about this stuff because it&#8217;s totally cyclical. The next generation will see the profligacy of this one and revolt against it, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that this generation isn&#8217;t facing some problems.</p>
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