Reason #426 Why Ohio Sucks
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Here’s the thing: until the Democrats get their act together there won’t be any real competition. It is easy to say Ohio sucks and quite another to change something. Liberals here love to scream and complain but they haven’t done a very good job of convincing others or of getting people elected.
I have lived in NE Ohio all my life and it sucks more and more each day! To be honest we moved to Florida for 6 months and just returned here. Why? For one reason and that is because my kids missed their school. As soon as they graduate I will never even drive through this state. I will fly over if I have to. lol We’ve already applied for Canadian citizenship.
I hear ya on this one!!!
I have lived in the deep south and the north but Ohio surpasses any state on the map !The legal system is nothing more then a corrupt money making business.They cash in on human misery every day.God help the people in authority there.They are surely hellbound for what they do.
I just recently got back to my home on the east coast from a trip to missouri. I rode in a car there and back, and we traversed the width of Ohio twice. I have decided, definitivley, that ohio is the worst state in the union, right up there with idaho (thank you for the heads up, maddox) for starters brian peppers is from ohio, if you dont know him, look him up. Ohio, blows. Dont go there. youll either get raped by a trucker, run over by a combine, or die from allergies. Dont stop to eat there, pee there, drive through it, or look at it on a map. If you are from ohio, kill yourself. the other 7 natives wont miss you.
Depressing Ohio is the anus of the world! I’ve lived in several states, so I know. The place is brimming with white-trash rednecks and trailer-felons! The biggest ‘industry’ here is tattooing! Even the dogs and cats here are sad and dejected! And if you don’t like OSU, you are considered a terrorist! LOL.
IF YOU’RE THINKING ABOUT MOVINIG TO OHIO, RECONSIDER…
I just moved back to Ohio to work on a degree… And the funny thing is you don’t realize how much OHIO SUCKS until you’ve lived elsewhere and then you come back. The only people who seem to know what I’m talking about are people who have moved elsewhere and come back for a time.
The people of Ohio are ignorant, opinionated, rude, ugly/homely looking, small-minded… The economy here is terrible… Most people in their 20’s-30’s are working multiple call center jobs (if they’re lucky) or mutliple jobs at all the freakin franchise businesses in this state. Speaking of franchises… OHIO FOOD SUCKS. People here think good Italian food means Olive Garden. The only people with money in Ohio are all the retired/soon to be retired boomers, and even they are fleeing for the sunbelt.
Driving in Ohio sucks because its a police state. The expressways are all speed-traps… When I drove back into Ohio from Pennsylvania, the first thing I noticed was State Troopers pullinig people over every 3 miles.
TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS…. I’m someone who notices the cultural nuances of the places I live and visit. OHIO SUCKS. OHIO SUCKS. OHIO SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS.
Have a nice day,
Mike
Almost forgot… OHIO WEATHER SUCKS. Gloomy, overcast skies for at least 6 months of the year. Summers are hot, humid, sticky, and smoggy.
Recreational amenities? We have none. Erie is polluted, any other lakes are resivoirs (aka.fake lakes), the hiking sucks, the skiing sucks, oh and did I mention that the water is full of pesticides???
I lived in Columbus, OH for 37 years, and it does SUCK. I now live in Myrtle Beach, SC where there’s beautiful weather, friendly people and wonderful beaches. If you can get out of Ohio, do it before you die a sad, depressing death there!
Hey guys. My name is Glickman, but the people that I consider my friends (even though they don’t consider me theirs) call me Harbor Buckeye. I am a total fag and I love Ohio. Here are some of my favorite things about Ohio:
The fact that Ohio is the only state in the Union with two cities where every single citizen is white trash. They are Dayton and Toledo.
I love to lick Clarett’s balls.
Our school sucks so we’re trying to make it sound prestigious by always saying “The” prior to “Ohio State.” Little do we know that people think we’re even stupider than before we opened our mouths.
The Ohio Toll Road — quite possibly the most boring, ugliest stretch of highway in the entire nation.
The Bengals stretch of years without making the Playoffs. What better to signify us all as losers?!? Too bad they choked and made the Playoffs in ‘05. Better luck in ‘06. Carson’s knee injury should help!
I have lived in Ohio my whole life and i want to leave. As soon as i graduate im out of this hell whole. I would rather live in Detroit than this place. Living by Youngstown is like living in eastern Europe. Nothing changes. And the weather sucks. And trust me dont stick up for PA cause PA sucks worse than Ohio. Trust me the good places to go to are Florida and out west.
I will be moving to Florida when i graduate. But i am leaning more towards Arizona. I have stuck up for Ohio my whole life. But why would i do that? Ohio does suck. And i realized that this week. We have bad luck writen all over us. When i go to Florida to visit my smart family that moved i am actually embarresed to say im from Ohio. See before my parents got divorced we were ready to move to North Carolina but they got divorced and we had to sell the house that we bought down there. Ohio does suck and there is nothing good about it. Maybe Cedar Point lol but thats it.
Oh ya and one more thing the sports teams suck!!!!! Browns lol the Clowns and the Bengals cant beat the Steelers what a joke. Ohio will never ever change.
Now that i think about it and i have read stuff about other states people across the nation thinks their states suck too. Im not gonna sit here and try and change peoples opinions but Ohio isnt really that bad. Every state has its bad parts and its good parts. And we have good sports teams. The Browns pretty much have changed their whole team. I just watched ESPN and the Reds beat the Pirates 6-2. The Indians beat the Braves. The Cavs just beat the Bobcats. And look at the Bucks.
And look at all our amuesment parks in this state. Two of them bring in some of the most visitors across the world than most except Walt Disney which isnt really fun unless your like 10. But we have Paramounts Kings Island and Geauga Lake and last but not least Cedar Point. Ohio brings in some of the highest tourism dollars out of the 50 states. 12.7 billion a year. And we have one of the fastest growing cities in the midwest (Columbus). And look at Cleveland…. It has been voted Most American City 5 years in a row. Cleveland has some awesome beaches along Lake Erie. And dont say Lake Erie is polluted cause that was back in the 60s and 70s. Edgewater State Park has some awesome beaches and awesome views of the Cleveland skyline. And some pretty awesome parasailing too. Cincinnati has many projects underway and that are planned to get started. Ohio is spose to creat 850,000 jobs between 2005 and 2010. And many residents have moved to Ohio from Michigan, PA, and West Virgina for jobs, better cost of living and just to get out of one of those states.
Like Michigan which has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. Detroit has an unemployment rate of 14% compared to Clevelands 7.5%. Detroit is also Murder Capital USA. And Michigan has crime rate out the roof. Many young West Virginians have moved to Ohio for better jobs. They came to cities like Columbus and Cincinnati. Trust me wether you believe me or not or even if you want to believe it Ohio is getting better.
It is not uncommon for people to not like the state they live in. I have seen people that live in Florida even want to get out and leave. I will soon be moving to the Cleveland metro. Westlake, Ohio. And since i have been to the area alot i have seen alot of new things around that area. They have lots of new housing units. And i met my new neighbors that i would be living by and they are from Albany, NY. So people do want to move to Ohio believe it or not. And Cleveland Hopkins International Airport is going under a 1.6 billion dollar expansion. We are home to the tallest building between Chicago and New York. And Canton has the Pro Football Hall of Fame Cleveland has the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Ohio is alot better than alot of other states out there even if you dont want to believe it. It is natural for people to hate the state that they live in. But once you see how people in states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin hate their states for their weather and other sucky reasons you will find that there are other states out there that suck too.
I know most probaly are sitting there saying well Florida doesnt suck neither does out west. But plenty of other states (countless numbers of them) the residents living in them think they suck too. Ohio just like other states are trying to work out their problems. I read from this one guy who lived in Philly but now lives in LA said
”Most people in PA move out if they were the smart ones, if they failed in school they married the girl they went to prom with had 2 kids at age 25 and lived on the same block as they grew up in and they were working at Wal-Mart. People all across the country think their states suck too. Even in the Sunshine State.
But every state is messed up in one way or another. You have Florida with their hurricanes every year and people keep moving there and some times their houses keep getting destroyed every year. California with its earthquakes and wild fires. Colorado with its freakin cold weather and rediculus snow fall amounts. And Texas and Oklahoma with its tornados. I realize Ohio has that really crazy winters and hot summers. But alot of people like the changes of seasons. But im done now and im sure your all happy. But before you say Ohio sucks think of some other states and what they are going through cause theres some states out there with worse problems than the Buckeye State.
This kid sits next to me in class and he is from Ohio. All he talks about is how he loves having sex with men at truck stop, what he affectionately calls “tea parties”. I have also been forced to drive through Ohio once and take a business trip there once, both times leaving me on the verge of suicide. The girls are nasty rugby lesbians, the men are faggots, the weather sucks, the water polluted, the scenery miserable and everything else unmentionable.
Birthplace of Aviation sounds better than “Ohio: fly me the f*ck away from this place.”
Ohio is the armpit of the nation.
If Ohio had a penis, it would be small.
Ohio needs some Viagra.
Correction, a lot of Viagra!
Ohio smells worse than my mother’s %*$&$%.
Oh yeah, you know what I’m talking about.
But really Ohio is lame, its boring, its ugly stick houses in farm fields, its crowded highways, its smelly, its too big, its boring, its got no big city, it is stupid, it is a bad place to raise a family and I don’t like it here.
I lived in Ohio for twelve years in a sewer of a city called Norwood and you ever noticed that once you get a Norwoodian outside of that ghetto surrounded by ghettos that they turn into complete assholes and act like they own the place starting fights mugging people grabbing other peoples women and it always takes five of them to fight one and they always wonder why the rest of America has a low opinion of them. Second if you get fired from your job forget about drawing unemployment becuase if the company is justified in firing you you can kiss it goodby and since there’s no right to work laws not only can a union run you off but a temporary service can to so to put it in a nutshell yes not only does Ohio suck but it blows.
I don’t know about Ohio being so lame. I like living there a lot, but I do think you have to know where to live and go out. There are beautiful homes in a lot of areas, good schools, terrific museums, great restaurants and things to do year round. The key is to probably live within the major metropolitan areas. And if you don’t like where you live there are perfect places for people seeking any lifestyle in Ohio. Like I said, I think the key is you have to know where to be, but it really isn’t that hard.
I am from Cleveland, and love to travel. I’ve never actually been anywhere that would make me want to live there. I have really high standards like a lot of people I know from Cleveland and we have never been to ant Olive Garden in our lives, have no interest in visiting a cheap and crummy place in South Carolina or Floridia. Although Clevelanders do like Miami Beach, and Clevelanders did in fact found Miami Beach. I guess I also stayed at a nice resort in Naples and the Keys. But the rest of that state is really just a sleazy, cheap, and touristy. In addition to Miami Beach I along with many Clevelanders like Scottsdale, Manhattan, Chicago, Beverly Hills, Boston, Paris, Milan, Rome, French Riviera, Monte Carlo, D.C., Berlin, London, Vienna, and Madrid. But those are just places we like to travel. We don’t necessarily consider them superior place to live. We like living in Greater Cleveland were we shop at Saks, Nordstroms, Crate and Barrel, Brooks Brothers, and our terrific upscale grocery store unique to Northeast Ohio called Heinen’s. There is hardly a museum that Cleveland doesn’t have, and they are extremely underrated. We enjoy the highest rated orchestra in the country, and one of the top five hospitals in the country. We enjoy our suties and season tickets at Jacobs Field, Q Arena, and Brown’s Stadium. We send our children to primary and secondary schools costing over 25K, but some of the suburban school districts are rated in the top 200 public school districts in the country. I live within 30 minutues of a state park, a national park, and one of the largest county-wide parks in the country called the Metroparks. There are many yacht clubs, marinas, and a surprising amount of top notch country clubs. There are excellent festivals, and Artwalks in the city year round that draw large crowds. We have little traffic, low cost of living, lack of natural disasters, and no security or safety threat.
I’m not saying that the economy hasn’t been poor, or that everyone is so rich and cultured, but it is entirely possible and perhaps more so than many other places to make Ohio a great place to live and work. All of my house guests over the years from all over the country and world have all loved Cleveland. It was no surpirse to me that the prestigeous research group called the Economics Intelligence Unit based in London recently ranked Greater Cleveland as the highest quality of life in the United States, and lateter on being one of the top five places to take a business trip.
The key is to really have extensive knowledge of other places in the world, and really look at things cumulatively and objectively.
People who complain about Ohio simply don’t know really know Ohio and want to try and blame Ohio for their own lack of culture and motivation.
I find it funny that people are considering these very second or third rate communities in Ohio where they are from or where they have been as indicative of “Ohio”. If you are from Youngstown, Toledo, or Stowe I would encourage you to drive through Shaker Heights, Hudson, Cleveland Heights, Lakewood, Gates Mills, Hunting Valley, Beachwood,Chagrin Falls, Westlake, Solon, Rocky River, Pepper Pike, etc. and enjoy the beautiful scenery, nice homes, shops and restaurants, and try telling any one of those residents that they aren’t sophisticated. Downtown Cleveland, University Circle, Little Italy, Tremont, and Ohio City are also a happening urban neighborhoods with upscale restaurants, art galleries, cultural institutions, beautiful buildings, and nice hotels. But I guess no one has even heard of these places. Well guess what? That is Ohio, and only in Ohio.
In addition I will tell you that what I consider the sewage of American society ends up moving to the South, Sun Belt, or West Coast. As a Clevelander, I would be embarrassed to actually live in those places.
Ohio is the only state in history to ever have one of its RIVERS catch fire. Thats all I have to say about that place. Why is Indiana so much better?
My friend moved back to Ohio becuase he could not afford to buy a house in California. He has become increasingly conservative, bitter, critical and disrespectful to his best friends in CA as a result. Housing may be affordable in Ohio but salaries are much lower than in CA. So what is the point of living in a cultural wasteland? In a land of unsophisticated, ugly, fat, religious nuts?
God i can not believe i actually stood up for Ohio a few posts ago. OHIO SUCKS!!! The sooner i get out of here the better. Ohio has the fastest migration of people moving out than any other state. Ya New Jersey had its underground fires and its polluted beaches but Ohio just smells like the factory smoke as soon as you walk out the door. Maybe thats because there is a factory right by my development. I said living by Youngstown is like living in eastern Europe. Well it is like that. A stagnant economy and the weather is always overcast. As i type this it is raining. It has been for 5 freakin days. Dont stick up for Ohio cause everone knows it sucks here. I plan on moving to Chicago or North Carolina somewhere. They say Michigan is in worse shape than Ohio. I dont believe that one bit. Ohio has screwed itself over and it will never be able to fix itself.
Bobby,
Make up your freakin mind. OK.? Stick to the program. Ohio has plenty of negatives.
1.) Highly conservative red state.
2.) Full of trailer trash and ugly lesbians or soon-to-be lesbians.
3.) Queerer than a 3 dollar bill. It’s gotta be 50% in some places. I think they inherit it from in-bred relatives. Definitely an argument for the genetic basis of homosexuality.
4.) What industry? Insurance, government and the University? Buckeye Steel went belly-up.
5.) Weather sucks.
6.) Lake Erie stinks like sulfer and shit.
7.) The only friends you make here are either mentally ill or complete degenerates. This I know from long experience. The good ones head for the coast immediately. No one fuckin wants to live here.
8.) The general environment is deadening.
9.) Buckeye Fans are a plague.
10.) There’s nobody you can have an intelligent conversation with outside of a classroom.
11.) Origin of the Bush family dynasty.
Here are the positives.
1.) Columbus State. Really a nice place. I didn’t realize it until I graduated from Ohio State. They often hire actual professionals there not retarded student TA’s.
2.) OSU Graduate schools and the OSU student experience.
3.) The people passing through to get #1 and #2.
OK that’s it. Those 3 things kept me in Ohio for the better part of the 20th century. Not happy about it either. Now I’m so into PERS I wonder if I’ll die here.
B.T.W. I kind of like coastal Carolina too. There’s more sunshine and natural beauty there in 1 day than a whole lifetime of O-H-I-O
I’m serious. You’re gonna hate yourself for staying. It’s like having a co-dependent mentally ill wife. You have a couple good days without getting screamed at and you think you’re in heaven. Then it all starts up again. Ohio’s like that. It gives you a couple good days and then it sticks a knife in your back.
So Bobby, to quote a famous house
“GET OUT!!! GET OUT!!! GET OUT!!!!”
Although being a red state is one of Ohios few positives there are a few more negatives to add. 1. Xavier university nothing but a bunch of punks. 2. Norwood although just like Xavier in the punk department but they are considered respected members of the community.3. You can’t even protect yourself in a fist fight without being acussed of assualt and when the perpertraiters are cuaght they’re usually let off with a fine or a slap on the wrist no wonder people are leaving.
For many reasons, Ohio is frequently referred to as the Ukraine or Russia, of the US. In quality of life surveys based upon education, opportunity, weather, crime, pollution, culture, politics, employement, income levels, recreation, etc.; Ukraine ranks 98th out of 111 countries surveyed. Russia is 105th. The only worse place to live would be some of the African countries caught up in civil wars or, of course Iraq. Ohio should be made into a vast penal colony. Similar to the Utah concept, it would also be well suited as a state for evangelicals to exhile themselves and build their new mega-churches far away from the civilized members of this great country. Escape while you can…..
Ahhhhh…lovely Ohio! The land of………..uhhh……the land of…uh.. hmmmmm…..wait let’s see here…….what?… is good about this place anyways? Someone help me please, I’m struggling here….They gots religion, incest, mullets, tweekers, big trucks, rednecks, white trash, yeah…..noooo…apparently that does not cut it in today’s world…….but then there’s.. noooo…wait a second, there’s got to be something interesting, fun, stimulating or original. There has to be some great contribution to society. Buckeyes maybe? Yeah that’s it. Those little fucking peanut butter and chocolate candies.
I just returned from my first trip through Ohio and I was inspired to start a website to provide a forum for people to discuss how much Ohio sucks. I was so happy to find this discussion here so that I could join the chorus. It really does suck.
I just yesterday met a guy from Ohio in his late 40’s …now this guy really sucks as well as the stinking shithole called Ohio.
Sorry that all the good people have to be associated with such an asshole. William Buckley is his hero, still thinks the Bush \Cheney is a great presidency ….please good people of Ohio don’t let this type of vermin reside and cast votes.
Change conservative Ohio
Trust me Earl i think every freakin day on getting out of this hell hole. Your right one day its fine. But that one day is out weighed by like 55 other days of sucky weather, no jobs, hicks, and nothing to do. Im looking into North Carolina. My family almost moved there. Damn why didnt we move. God OHIO SUCKS!!!! Dont even come on vacation here. Theres nothing to do. The winters are too cold and the summer and its humidity. Cleveland doesnt rock. Columbus is a city full of nothings. And Cincy is sitting on the polluted Ohio river decaying everyday. Charlotte, North Carolina here im come.
Let’s get some things straight. It’s impossible for anyone who’s spent time in Upstate New York to think of Ohio as the butthole of the nation. To say nothing of Indiana, the only state in the country where the Ku Klux Klan once dominated all three branches of the state government.
But why does Ohio suck so bad? Perhaps it’s because of all the unspent potential. There are first-rate schools all over the state. It boasts more big (or sort of big) cities than almost any other state. Cincinnati has the most gorgeous urban scenery anywhere inland, and a fabulous night scene (when the cops aren’t breaking it up). Columbus has a gi-normous state university and a host of filthy-rich companies to work for. Cleveland could be the rival of Philly and Boston in its cultural life.
But somehow Ohio ends up being — well, insert your own rude word here.
The people who’ve made all the bizarrely homophobic comments here are unintentionally revealing the single suckiest aspect of their state. In 2004, the Buckeye State scared off the few remaining productive people willing to settle within their borders, with a piece of legislation so obnoxiously bigoted that it made Kentucky’s look moderate. Great job. As Randy Newman said, Burn on.
What keeps us all here is low-income and poverty. A tough
cycle to break, especially when you have children to consider. Say what you will about “potential”/”potentiality”; we rank 49th (second only to Mississippi) w/regard to our population of uneducated citizens (stupid people) and we put NO money into public education where it can best be utilized. Hillbillies abound because in the 30’s many people from TN, PA, and WV came here for jobs because of the industrial revolution. And here they remained, along with the stilted mentality. The cost of living is reasonable and housing is VERY affordable, once you have lived other places or even do some minor research (what you get for the money). Someone else on this site said it: people who have been born and raised here and who have never left have no CLUE! There is another world out there, filled with open-minded, kind (jesus…KIND!!!)
educated, creative, and caring people. The irony is, educated people earn more money….can afford more HOUSE….can live in the affluent, cultured, and more lovely and less polluted areas of the USA. Go to http://www.myspot.com and find your spot (MA? Lakewood, CO? Portland? Burlington VT?). GUAM has a higher standard of living and better educational system than OHIO. GO BROWNS (burp) Just kidding………
OHIO BLOWS, SUCKS, and is a hell hole. Get out while you can still BREATHE.
I have lived in Ohio my whole life (52 years) and I can say without a doubt that it bites, sucks, blows and chokes on its own bullshit. Growing up in Cleveland was hell. We are all victims of pollution, fast food, bad grammer and people who are proud to be ignorant. I recently asked a woman from Maine why she was moving back and she said that it is called the ” Mind Your Own Business State”. I asked what wasOhio’s state motto and she said without hesitation. It’s the ” That’s Not How We Do it Here State”. I grew up with that attitude and it is what sets Ohio apart from other places. People rationalize their sucky life here. “Oh, we have the Orchestra and the Rock Hall and the…WE HAVE SHIT! Sucky, stilted, religious, bigoted,” proud to be Umericun”, self rightious (right!), brown and orange loving dumb basturds. They deserve Ken Blackwell and George Bush. Oh, and if you don’t have sinus problems when you get here…
I would like to respond to “Johnny Downtown”. Obviously, since he can spell and has reasonably good grammar, he is in the 2% minority of nearly educated Clevelanders. Yes, Cleveland has many great things to offer. Nice museum….when it is open. But it is a “been there/done that” deal…nothing like Museums in Chicago or NYC. We have a good zoo, if you appreciate looking at old, forlorn creatures entrapped out of their native habitats. Not for me.
“Johnny Downtown” is fortunate enough to live in Gates Mills or the Heights or some other affluent pocket of Cleveland (all surrounded by crap, crap, and MORE crap) and when he cited Lakewood, Rocky River, and
other west side areas as “great”, I scoffed. I grew up in Bay. If anything, the west side is even more “butt-in-ski-ville” than the eastside (where it is downright stuffy, snooty, and unfriendly). I have lived in Chagrin, Euclid, Seven Hills, and Lakewood. While there are WORSE places to live in this state (country/world) no matter where you plant yourself, if it is in OHIO, you are surrounded by a palpable resonance of IDIOCY, narrow mindedness, and lack of progress. The fact is, there are only two reasons to stay here. If you have a great job and make tons-o-cash and can afford to live in the best area possible (like Johnny) good for you. If you are stuck in Lakewood where, even in the best areas you are able to hear your neighbors sneeze, burp, and fart (the homes are so close together and most people do NOT have central A/C) and it is non-stop sirens, mowers, blowers, fireworks (year round) kids screaming and the yelps of domestic violence,….well, it does not matter how gosh darn good the ART MUSEUM is! And Johnny…WHAT good schools? Mayfield? Great rating, as is Solon’s, but again, it is a matter of choosing between living in shopping HELL (strip mall after strip mall covering a 14 mile radius) or living in STEPFORD…a cookie-cutter community of newly wealthy who, although they may be a bit more educated, still perpetuate the stereo-typic, Drew Carey, CLEVEburg mind-set. Burlington Vermont, here I come!
Ooops, I forgot reason #2 to stay here. If you are fortunate enough to have a sound and healthy family or vast network of interesting and reasonably astute friends to offset the large assortment of “bad”, then you can create a community feel and support system even in the middle of shitsville Alabama. My family all moved away (or died trying) one by one and now, stuck due to finances and terrified of making a mistake, here we are. We know where it is WORSE;;;;Detroit, New Orleans, L.A., anywhere in KS or OK.
To “joi” (#30)….you are correct. Finances (and fear) keep people trapped here.
I grew up in the average ohio town in NE ohio. I always thought that was how the whole country was except for california. After high school I traveled around the world. I was schocked to see how bad my area was. After doing what most ohioans do (work ina shitty factory and attempt community college) i left for Chicago to go to school. My world was shattered. No longer was i around abandonned buildings and trailers with overgrown lawns and 80,000 dollar homes. I was surrounded by the america i was told existed, by tv. Well i moved back to ohio, i have been here for a month. I hate it. The whole area is run down, Cleveland is ahorrible city, Youngstown blows and most people are ignorrant from lack luster education. In January i plan to move to Germany, and never return to ohio. When people ask me where i come from in the US ill say Chicago to hide my shame.
I recently moved out of Ohio after finishing up at Case and I have come to several conclusions. The first is that the people of Ohio are ignorant – otherwise they would leave! Second – it is so so run down and depressed. Every license plate should say “Welcome to the Welfare State.” Does no one in the state care? Why is it okay to throw your trash and cigarette butts on the ground and not even flintch? Does nobody there realize that behavior is not okay? Third, everyone there is so fat and out of shape. Fast food is everywhere and the lack of exercise is growing. Fourth, nobody has any morals there. Fornication and dishonesty are the two largest problems that come to mind. Ohio is messed up. I am so grateful that I have left and I will no longer have to deal with a begger lying about how he needs bus money everytime I go to get in my car. Good riddens!!!!
Try linving in Yougstown, Union central. The whole area is full of a bunch of dumbass’s that are waiting on the mills to reopen. How many companies need to leave Youngstown before the unions wise up and see that they are hurting the area. The economy sucks, and the weather is worse. We have mushroom farms here, do I need to say anything else.
Ive lived in ohio my entire live in central and northern ohio. Growing up here wasn’t so bad until I hit puberty and everything became a clique and if your house didnt cost over $150,000 you were immediately cast out in schools to be with kids who didnt have it easy and were angry and most likely didnt like you or trust you for any reason. I hit 21 this year and I am watching my life flush itself down the drain and most of the people I called my friends have disappeared into drugs and have never looked back and Im seeing myself turn into my miserable father who lives alone at 40 and wishes everyday he would be killed. This is not the life I want for myself nor my future children granted I have any because I’m not part of the million dollar social status of such places like Bath or Gahanna
It tears me apart to watch the people here rip themselves apart and eat 5 meals a day followed by every drug known to man. I really hope I get an opportunity to leave this place, If you agree wich im sure some of you do, you’re more than welcome to join my crusade into a different state that doesnt have 4 letters and doesnt start and end with an O
I moved here after I married my STBX…….that’s right, my STBX. He turned out to be just as much of an ignorant fucktard as the rest of these narrowminded, bigoted assholes that populate this good for nothing state. I am from California, and am moving back this fall. I get made fun of constantly because I am from out West, and if I hear “WHY did you come to Ohio?” One more time, I am seriously going to clock someone.
I live in Northwestern Ohio, which is dangerously close to the Indiana border. The populace is comprised of mostly white trash, stubborn, cliquie, mullet wearing morons who foam at the mouth at the mere mention of the Ohio State Buckeys……… people of Ohio………..NO ONE CARES about the freaking Buckeys. Every other woman you see in this area is about 6-8 months pregnant…….this happens every spring, I shit you not. This goes hand in hand with the Republican, right wing religious agenda of a gun in every holster and a pregnant woman in the kitchen. The only goal that a young girl in this area has, is to land a man, get knocked up, spit out about 5 “yungins”, and call a tin can on wheels home.
Don’t get me started on the weather here. 8 months of winter, followed by 4 months of strangling humidity and cloud cover. You had also better learn to drive on sheets of ice in the winter, since the roads are not well maintained (at least where I am).
No economy, since most of the industry here went belly up. Generations of family here who have never left this state, so you do the math on how culturally astute they are……..um hmm.
Once again………I am literally counting the days until I can escape the land of the Mountain Dew drinking masses.
I did find one good thing about Ohio. Went to ole’ mother Russia once and found that Ohio is definitely a better place than the Slavic hinterland-at least the European part west of the Urals.
Some people are going to rant me for this but…
The place is a mess. It’s a dive. They don’t take care of their shit.
Yes there are good Russians. The old folks were like old hippies here. There were open minded and interested in the world. The public transportation in the 2 big cities was good.
I’m not going to waste my breath talking about their young people. They are all living in a state of permanent anomie.
So yes, Ohio does suck but there is suckier out there if you’re willing to look. Just look for a per-capita under 10k, brutal winters, radioactivity, bad air quality, a long history of repression…. you get the idea.
I apologize for the previous comments spelling error. It’s not because I’m from Ohio.
OK. At least say Ohio sucks as far as America goes. Ohio seems to be the hub for all activity related to abusing your many, many adopted/foster children, and other just generally weird crimes. It’s a big state, yeah, but what the….? Driving through is scary and bewildering. I got to this discussion by typing “ohio sucks” into Google. It’s unbelievable how many weird, personal, usually -involving -small -innocent -children -crimes are reported from this…er, interesting piece o’ land. Radiation, do they teach ya’ll that this is a good idea, what? BTW, I’m not really from IN, but have been here for a good long time, and apparently that state line holds true. We may be dumb, but damn…
If we’re talking worse in the US just take a fuckin trip south to W.Va. There’s some weirdness going on there too.
Jev,
About your crusade.
Yes Ohio sucks but just leaving Ohio might be laying the foundation for more unhappiness if you are unprepared financially for New York or LA. I’ve got a lot of depressed rebounder friends who went to those cities and were forced back in the first 2 months because they didn’t know how to make the move. Most of them just displayed a lack of commonsense about ripoffs and magical thinking about their finances.
IMHO you ought to save about 6K cash + a good credit card -so you can have 3 months or so looking for your fulltime job. A CDL for your destination state isn’t a bad idea either. Once there get a share which is a sleeping space on the floor of an overcrowded apartment..it’s better than trying to pay $1600/month for a 1 bedroom and anyway you’re not taking your stuff with you. If you want to pay $800 a month you can live in a youth hostel and those are nice but IMHO overpriced for a person looking for work.
Aftershock ,
If the women are 6 mos pregnant in spring they are just following the ancient scotch-irish-welsh/celtic tradition of getting preggers at the Winter Soltice and giving birth at the Summer soltice when the weather is warmest and resources and food is abundant.
At least they are perpetuating the species.
Ohio absolutely, positively without a doubt, sucks ass!!! I lived there 96% of my life, 24 years out of 25, and somehow didnt become a typical Ohio asshole.
Let me start by saying the weather sucks. Seven months out of the year, its freezing ass cold, cloudy and raining, windy or snowing. You may as well move to siberia. The other five months, its so humid and sticky that it feels like your walking thru peanut butter.
Second, the people there are mostly rude asswipes. Dont get me wrong, there are a few good ones there, but the assbags definately outnumber the good ones. They are corrupt, especially the police, as I found out first hand when the Toledo police didnt give a fuck that I got 15,000 worth of stuff stolen from me. People there will back-stab you, talk shit behind your back, and then be your best bud to your face. I forgot to mention stuck-up.
Third, compared to where i live now, in Arizona, our worst neighborhood here looks like the best neighborhood in Toledo. Toledo is run down, the economy is poor, there are vacant buildings, scumbags allover the downtown, and on top of all that, the mayor can never get his head out of his ass and do any good for the bad financial and job situation plaguing the city.
Fourth, its boring. If you are not into OSU, there is nothing to do. All the bars and restaurants here are sportsbars, and there are very very few places that are actually nite-clubs, and dont have anything to do with OSU football. There is not much to do outside, with the exception of Cedar Point. I am a very active outdoors type, and there, all you can really do is go for a walk in the park, or play golf, which gets old quick if thats all there is. There are no mountains, the scenery is flat and full of farms. If you like getting wasted daily with the locals, then your ok.
Fifth, there IS a serious weight problem in Ohio. It is very hard to find a lady friend that doesnt weigh less than 180lbs, or is pregnant, or has 3 kids with all different fathers. Everyone is overweight. Maybe that has something to do with the un-employment rate.
Sixth, finding a job there is a waste. Because of the wonderful economy, I lost my job as a manager for an auto repair shop when they went out of business. In the 8 months before I moved , the only jobs available were factory jobs for 6.00 an hour, or wait tables at one of the many sportsbars. If your a doctor, waitress, or factory worker, life in Ohio could be just about good for you. If you can stand the other things, maybe. You would have to be an Ohio good ol boy . Anything else, forget it.
Last, I can say, for those of you above that mentioned it, that Ive been here in Arizona now for a year, and I love it. It gets hot in the summertime, but I can trade that for the -20 winters in Ohio. There is plenty to do outside, mountains, skiing, tubing, and the Phoenix nightlife is sweet. It is a very nice, clean city. Only a few sportsbars. There are real nite-clubs and bars here. Also, I had no problem finding a job making more than the automotive shop that I worked for in Ohio.
For all of you that live in Ohio, if you are smart, you will GET OUT. There is so much more this country has to offer. The buckeye is a useless nut. For those who dont live in Ohio, dont ever go there. Take it from a former native. It really really SUCKS.
I have lived in Ohio for 31 years and let me tell you it does suck!!! The weather is the worst here it could possibly be, its bad for the the hard working farmer, who this year has had a lot of crop damage, bad for anybody that has a job that depends on the weather. If it wasn’t for bad weather, Ohio would only exist for a few days a year. This makes for a miserable, depressed, stressed out, mean people. The economy does suck, and you have to work day and night and still can’t comfortably pay the bills even with a hard working spouse. That leaves us with no money to enjoy life a little. Thanks to a few good friends we’re barely surviving!! I am trying to finish my small house. Since the weather is so awful and my paycheck needs a lot of good weather. { I have an outside job that cannot be done in bad weather of any kind} I can’t finish my house in BAD WEATHER and we have so much of it that the money or time is never there to even finish it myself. My BEST advice NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT LIVING IN OHIO. If I ever can finish this house enough to sell it, Me and my wife, {The one and only good thing I found in Ohio} are moving the hell outa here and never returning. Maybe out west or south. It’s true the thing that keeps us poor miserable people here, is we were born into this hellhole and can’t make enough money to get out, or just too damn mindsick to even try. If you live in this mess of a state, GOOD LUCK ON YOUR FIGHT FOR A BETTER LIFE!!!! THIS IS TRULY THE CLOUD CAPITAL OF THE WORLD IN EVERY WAY!!!! Believe it or not POLLUTION HERE IS ALSO THE WORST IN THE UNITED STATES!!! OH and YES THE LEGAL SYSTEM IS TOTALLY SCREWED UP!!! Hope to see YOU GOOD PEOPLE ONLY IN A BETTER STATE.
Hillbilly,
You really want me to call you a hillbilly? OK.
I agree with you on all points.
Trying to sell my place too but the damn Ohio weather and last owner’s utter stupidity is preventing it.
They just want to keep me here to torture me. They have suceeded.
Wish me luck rennovating this piece of shit and getting the HELL OUT OF OHIO! FOREVER! PLEASE LET THE ASTEROID HIT THE OVAL WHEN I LEAVE! I don’t ever want to see a hardware store the rest of my life.
Hey how about that COTA? Is it 2 hours between buses here or what? I hate it when my car breaks down.
Hi to y’all youngsters!
I have been very amused by your vents. I can tell by your rants
you all must be approx. early 20 somethings.
I am from the Atlanta area, and possibly relocating to the Kent, ohio area(Ravenna or Salem) Atlanta’s cost of living is high, and the wages are low if your field of expertise is not development and technology. So we have to travel where my husband’s services are in high demand(aerial,hydraulics) and let me give you some sagely advice. No matter where you travel in this great country of ours (remember, you do have the freedom to explore) there will be pros and cons. The best you can hope for is to educate yourselves so you can provide the best future possible for yourselves and future families. Keep focused on priorities, and the important things in this life, and you will find happiness no matter where you are.
Good luck to you all! from a mom of 3 in Atlanta, Georgia.
Well I don’t know about you but I’m leavin. You can come if you want. Don’t say we didn’t warn ya!
I have lived in the Cleveland Area my whole life. When you are younger and in school, you have every person your age in the area around you daily, and they are young and hopeful still. I never realized how bad it was here.
Now, in my 30s, friends slipped away, and new people come into the picture, and I find myself disgusted beyond all belief with what has become my life here in Ohio. The absolute ignorance of people is dumbfounding, and each break at work instead of discussions of politics, foreign affairs, or science/technologies, I am forced to listen yet again to talk of the only things these people care about….NASCAR, guns, and wrestling. Some do talk about sports 24 hours a day, which I guess I won’t put down even though I could care less about the Indians or browns…
I struggle with bills, yet their absolute patheticness actually makes me feel wealthy being the only person with an ipod, digital camera, etc, although they do all have cell phones they are constantly playing with like it’s a personal computer or something.
Although the weather does suck, it isn’t my opinion the place itself makes it bad, it’s the people here. The bulk of my family is from Tennessee, and I promise you this, the people here are 50 times more redneck than the people there, and it makes no sense. Plus, atleast they are nice there.
Yes, Ohio is a complete shithole from the perspective I have been cursed with. Like most others, fear, finances, having already had most of my life and ambitions sucked out of me keeps me stuck here. Each day I grow more bitter and I am to the point now of just going through the motions of staying alive, fighting off depression……knowing all along, after traveling the country over in my younger days, that there are places where people are happier, alive, laughing, and making those around them feel alive.
FUCK OHIO
This is a great blog.
Northeast Ohio is a shithole. The reason the housing is so affordable is there is no demand to live here. Never before in history have the value of homes spiked in value in this country like they have over the past 3-5 years. All except…you got it, “the comeback city”. Because once you’ve been here you aren’t ever coming back!!!
Hey earl, Yea, call me Hillbilly, just smile when you say it. This part of Columbiana county, Ohio where I come from, thats damn near all there is. I just think I’m one of the smarter one’s. HA, HA,,, Like I’ve said, Born into this hellhole. Hey, I definatly wish you lotsa luck!!!! You aint kiddin these Ohio people will try to keep you here just to torture you. I’ve found that out firsthand. Andrew and stuck, you guys both make great points. Hey,stuck I agree with you on what you say about Tennessee. I’ve got friends there. Hell, I agree with you on everything. I’m with you on the going through the motions of staying alive and fighting depression. Thats all I do anymore, Work, Sleep, Try To Pay Bills, Fight Depression and Shake my fist at Ohio!!!! Well, I’ve heard “It will get better” way to many times. I don’t believe it anymore, not in this Hellhole. Chat with ya’ll later. GOOD LUCK
Dan, You made some excellent points about this hellhole. I’ve been to Arizona a couple times myself. Not a bad place to live if you can get past the sand and wetbacks. Lotta good people there and they do have some nice mountains.
I’m only 18, but I’ve lived in a little town right outside Youngstown my whole life, and IT SUCKS HERE. I can’t wait to move to NY for college in 2 months.
reasons why Ohio sucks:
-Ok well ovbiously Youngstown is the worst city in Ohio. It basically stopped about 30 years ago, driving through it you feel like you’re in a rundown part of Russia or something. There are abandoned buildings everywhere, a ton of crime, YSU is full of dumb kids because they accept anyone.
-rednecks. I live in a city called Poland right outside of Youngstown, even though it’s the only good place around here, it still sucks. It’s 99.9% white (and im white btw) and half of the people are rednecks. Although it’s a high class town and everyone here is rich (by Ohio standards) I can’t really complain too much.
-WEATHER SUCKS. It’s hardly ever sunny. It’s always raining. Winters are really cold and snowy and summers are too hot and humid.
-like a lot of people said, driving through Ohio is incredibly boring, most of it’s farmland
-minimum wage is the lowest in the country, I guess that only sucks for highschoolers
-the Ohio river. hahahahaha
-all the beaches suck, Lake Erie sucks and the sand is all rocks
The only good thing about Ohio are the amusement parks. Cedar Point, Geauga Lake, and King’s Island.
All of you assholes give Ohio a break!
I have lived in south Florida for approx.24 years and went to college in Central Florida and i have been to every crack and crevice Florida has to offer and i can tell you Florida is a major shit hole!!! I was born in Columbus, Ohio and moved when i was 6 to Florida.We went back to Ohio every winter for vacation and had a blast with the winter festivals and snow boarding etc. In florida you have two seasons hot and hotter HIGH taxes,crime and you’re neighbors right on top of you just to name a few things.
Now we have some idiot from Arizona talking about how nice it is compared to Ohio! look it is real easy to make a statement on how nice Arizona is when most people have not been there…. But i have and Arizona has got to be the worst place in all the lower 48!!! hot would not even begin to explain the weather, dust storms illegals all over the place,Los Angeles gangs that have moved into all major metro areas etc..
Bottom line every state has there problems and make no mistake about it Ohio is NOT the worse
Also Florida has Hurricanes i went thru Andrew in 92 and saw people looting others homes while they lay there dying my friend and i both shot a lotter and paid dearly to the legal system to get of the hook.
Wow. I live in Northern NJ (7 miles from Manhattan) for my entire life and people joke about New Jersey but having been to Cleveland I could not even imagine living there without a steady supply of antidepressants. I thought it was just because I’m used to liiving on the coast and esentially in suburban New York City, but it’s more than that. In two days time I actually felt like my life was a dead end and wanted to die. That was two days in claustrophobic middle of the country Cleveland and Cleveland Shitty Heights.
Where I live has the highest cost of living in the country but you know what? It’s well worth it. New Jersey has the most beautiful beaches in the worlld. We’re talking about real beaches on the Atlantic Ocean. A lake in the middle of the USA is not, has never been, will never be a beach. It’s a lake on fire. New York City is of course the greatest city in the entire world.
So, y’know what,? The cost of livving is really high. As of now where I live the average price of a small house is $650,000 and I will never own one. But….. you do get what you pay for. I’d rather rent a really nice apartment in a rerally nice place and work a decent job that pays a decent wage than own ten houses in Cleveland Heigths. I could not live in that backward, no integrity, no street cred hellhole for two days, let alone a lifetime.
Don’t be afraid to leave. There are opportunities everywhere and seriously…… life doesn’t usually require pockets full of Prozac.
I am with you jpjp! I grew up 30 miles north of NYC in Rockland County. Cleveland is the most depressing city in the country. Living in Cleveland is like living what I imagine Dresden was at the end of the second world war. It is a dead end town that has long since died. There is no natural beauty here. No ocean, no beaches, no mountains. It’s the 3D city. Dark, Dank and Disgusting. God forbid someone who lives here hears you say that. You see nobody is moving here. The only ones here are the ones who grew up here. So they are real sensitive.
They cops here are the worst. But then again with the exodus of jobs and people there is no money coming in to pay city hall. THEY ARE ALL OVER LIKE GESTAPO. It is literally a police state.
I too would rather own a tiny bungalow or rent than live in a 3000 square foot home in this shithole.
I married a local girl. We have two young children and one on the way so I built a 2500 square foot home to make my wife happy and to be near my in-laws. I couldn’t take another minute here. Living here became a torture contest. So I took a job in Atlanta in September and put the house up for sale. It’s been up for almost a year. Despite lowering it to $50,000 less than I paid…I was forced to move back on account of not being able to pay for two places.
Despite having as most Clevelanders say “the most affordable real estate in the country”, I couldn’t sell it. The reason the price of homes is so cheap is economics 101. Nobody wants to live here. It’s THE UGLIEST place on earth.
I like what you said and I too would pass on a 6500 square foot mansion in Northeast Ohio than have to call this area home.
All houses sell and eventually mine will too and that is the only thing that keeps me going. I just can’t wait to get my family out here.
And for those of you who did grow up here I am sorry. But you really should try to look for life outside of this shithole…and I am not talking about Youngstown or Rochester.
The one wonderful thing about having lived in Cleveland is that you can go to any other city in the country and say….. “WOW”!!!!!!!!!!
Cleveland only gets 59 clear days a year. The stinky polluted Lake (which they tell you not to swim in after it rains because the antiquated sewer systems of Cleveland have no to go!!!)
“Stuck”–That’s it in a nutshell. Work, pay enormous bills, pop anti-depressants, have a pathetic remnant of friends(the ones too dumb to leave) and take care of or fend off vast hoards of desperate or homeless relatives who seem to think anyone with a job owes them a living. Right now I’ve got 2 people sleeping in my living room. Ugh! Someone shoot me now!
Just trying to fix my roof and get the hell out of dodge.
Now let me quote the best thing I’ve heard on this blog:
“Yes, Ohio is a complete shithole from the perspective I have been cursed with. Like most others, fear, finances, having already had most of my life and ambitions sucked out of me keeps me stuck here. Each day I grow more bitter and I am to the point now of just going through the motions of staying alive, fighting off depression……knowing all along, after traveling the country over in my younger days, that there are places where people are happier, alive, laughing, and making those around them feel alive.
”
-stuck
The big question is, do you need a geographical solution to these problems? I would definitely say “Yes”. It’s your instinct to leave a crappy situation whether it’s a crappy relationship, a dangerous environment, a job that doesn’t pay. Crappy situations come up all the time and removing yourself from the situation is very often the best solution. It can save your life. I know literally hundreds of people who moved away and made a better life for themselves in California and New York … so yes “Stuck” leave before Ohio sucks the soul out of you. Take your kids if you’ve got-em but go the hell out of here because Ohio’s bad for kids too.
Unfortunately I’ll have to sell a total of 3 properties to get the hell out of here. God, what an idiot I was playing the real estate game. I would rent them but the management companies here are a sad, pathetic joke. Most of them won’t even fix a toilet.
Good luck getting the hell out of Ohio.
#55, Coldiron,
Some idiot from Arizona huh? Let me tell you a few things.. First of all you moved to Florida when you were 6. You had no idea what Ohio was about between then and now, so how can you say its so great? Just because you vacationed there? WHOO HOO…. I lived in ohio for 24 years buddy, and I know and will always know how bad it is.
Moving to Arizona was the best move I could have ever made. I have a job here making almost twice what I did back in Ohio, and Its the same position! Also== WTF?!! There are things to do here!! Ive got the wonderful Phoenix nightlife, the mountains, the outdoors, and plus Im within short distance of LA, Las Vegas, San Diego– and an ocean!!
Every big city has gangs and crime, its a fact of life. What do you think Ohio has no crime? If you will read my post more thoroughly, you will see I got burglarized for 15 grand worth in Toledo. You get that anywhere.
Every state has its ups and downs. Arizona is a very nice place to live. Your attitude just sucks. You hate Florida, which I have been there (its been awhile) and I thought it was nice.
Overall, anyone that can hate Florida and Arizona both, MUST be from Ohio– so move back and have fun!!
P>S> I got a louisville slugger in my trousers— what do you think of that pal??
#55 . I have to give Coldiron some credit for shooting that looter down in Florida. Good job! Not sure, why he’s so upbeat about C-town though.
I do remember the recent experience of taking a commuter flight from NYC and looking down at the flat miasma of suburbs and low density (in comparison) and thinking (G’damn, Columbus, you’re so…I’m not sure… not cool, not big, not grand, not by an ocean and I’m searching for a term and all I can come up with is a bunch of nots for the place).
I get to the airport that’s more-or-less vacant at 11pm and start searching out a taxi who will take me home for less than $40 and finally luck out and catch a ride on a private bus which drops me off into my lovely suburb (with no functioning local bus) on the beautiful upscale North east side where I alternatively dodge and weave through the wastematter teenagers smoking weed, holding bags – giving me the usual shit spiel and stinkeye as I make it to my crappy townhouse all the time thinking I would rather be taking this garbage in a place that MATTERED!
# 59
Look make no excuse about it ARIZONA SUCKS!!!! you try and underestimate Arizonas true problems by saying “every big city has gangs” etc.. No sir you are truly under estimating the true problem(S) Arizona does have! What about the snipper that has shot 23 innocent people in the Phoenix area? and is still on the loose! and how about the real famous rappist on the loose in your area? something like 9 violent raps and 3 murders by the same person! I just watched the stories on fox news.
Then you say Arizona has soooo much to offer? like what? close proximity to LA! GIve yourself a break Why would you want to go to LA? The ocean you mean the dark cold polluted waters in so cal? So i guess what you should do is wear your bullet proof vest and pack nothing less than a .40 cal handgun along with 8-9 close friends when you go out to enjoy that awesome Phoenix nightlife (lol) Then you say
Arizona has “mountains” nothing but a pile of sand in a 120 degree stinking DESERT!
Now, I think you misunderstood my earlier post I did not say Ohio was ther greatest place on earth i said “Give it a break”. I have family from there and when we visited we had alot of fun and my family seems to love it there.
So if you want to know some of the places i really! ejoyed visiting they are Aspen, Colorado, Key west, Florida (The only place in Florida) & Hailey, Idaho to name just a few.
By the way you stated you got a job in the same field making twice the money compared to Ohio…. I guess that makes up for the real estate being twice as much as in Ohio along with the cost of living!
P.S. Let me ask you how bad does that louisville slugger in your trousers hurt when you sit on it? On the other hand i’am not in that kind of thing so do not tell me.
It’s OK if Coldiron likes Ohio and it’s OK if Dan likes Arizona. Dan’s OK and Coldiron’s OK so…let’s just put the Louisville slugger on the ground and slowly back away.
We all have to agree that we google’d “Ohio sucks” to get here so somewhere there has to be a kernel of geographical discontent no matter where your loyalties lie.
Coldiron… Everything seems to me to cost nearly the same here. I dont own a home yet, but the rent isnt much higher here, maybe $50 more for a MUCH nicer condo than what was available in OH. I should know, I have lived here for a year now. Search it on the internet— cost of living is 2% higher here, by national statistics.
To me, AZ has lots to offer. A good job, nice people, scenery, and things to do, like I have mentioned a few times over now. Also, again, no cold weather and rusty cars.
How is it not true that with a large city comes more crime? If there is so much crime and gangs, etc here, why is this area the fastest growing in the united states? How come I am alive and typing on this computer? It should have got stolen by now… Anyways, why would I spend all my time worrying about some crazy killer, thats one in 4 million people, and theres that 1 in 4 million chance he might come for me? Thats ludacris! I might as well board up my windows and become a shut in, with my .45 and bullet proof vest! Gimme a break… Same with the rapist. Ohio has many rapists and murderers too– the crime thing is not an arguement– anything can happen to anyone, anywhere. Even Ohio.
Ill take my 100+ degrees for 3 months out of the year instead of Ohio’s -10, thank you. I dont miss Ohio’s sticky smelly humid summers either. Last New Years eve I went swimming, outside. If I want -10 degrees and 8 feet of snow, all I have to do is drive 2 hours north and im there… Why would I want to deal with shitty cold weather 3/4 of the year?
The housing cost is higher, but only in parts of the state, like Sedona, and the super rich parts of Phoenix, where there are thousands of tourists and millionaires, seeing the MOUNTAINS and GRAND CANYON… hmm another thing I dont miss about Ohio— the lack of scenery and mountains…. Speaking of rich.. Jenna Jameson and DMX were at a grand opening of a restaurant about 5 miles from my house the other day… Thats interesting to me…. That would never happen in OH…
Like I said before, your attitude sucks. How can you be so critical of places you have never lived, but maybe visited for a few days– or not. I can be critical about Ohio, I lived there 24 years. I know how much it sucks. If you move there you will find out. I have family there too…. so unfortunately, later this month I will be paying a visit– hope I survive the trauma.
I wll put the Louisville Slugger down if coldiron does the same. I agree with earl. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. There are problems everywhere, and IMO OH is the worst of them. In his, its AZ… So be it. Lets not get salty over this– or I will have to exhchange the slugger for a salt truck.
Ref. # 64.
Dan,
Hey good for you being happy in Arizona! I do not want to argue abouit Ohio vs Arizona.I will give you that much about Arizona only two hours North to go Sking.
I’am considering moving to Ashland, Ohio in the next two months and when i visited it seemed like it was a very well kept micropolitian area it had a small college (Ashland University) and the people seemed ok.You can not compare Ashland to Miami in regards to raising a family and just the overall crime and cost of living.If you go outside of Miami 50-60 miles you can cut down on expenses and get more house for the money but….I can not stand “REDNECKS”.
Dan enjoyed jawing with you no offense.
P.S. Dan if you do not mind me asking what do you do for a living?
I did a quick analysis of crime in Phoenix vs. Crime in Columbus (the biggest city according to population alone) and even though we may be comparing apples to oranges the crime in Phoenix is less in certain categories and more in others.
We’re taking about 40% less rapes and robberies (great!) but 20% more assaults, murders and larceny and helluva a lot more car thefts. So it’s your car you should be worrying about?
Home invasion is a kind of an Ohio tradition. It was almost a right of passage for the poor kids. I remember a few middle class youngsters breaking in houses too when I was a kid.
A lot of the thieves, especially in the Ohio State campus area are 3rd and 4th generation. I think they probably never leave their neighborhoods cause the pickings too good on campus. Those were organized dudes. I’ve seen them go up a block with a big key chain and a lock pick after the students left.
Well, I’m digressing…
So to sum it all up, we’re sick and twisted here in the “Heart of it all” but we’re far less likely to kill you and steal your car.
I will admit, we do have somewhat of an autotheft problem here. I think its because we are so close to the border. The car dealerships have razor wire fences around them, (partly because many of the shops dont have walls) and most everyone has an interlock switch or alarm on their car. We’re like number 3 in car thefts in the us, like 50,000 stolen for every 1,000,000 cars. Something like that.
Coldiron, Ashland is a pretty decent suburb of Cleveland. I have been thru it and it seemed to be a nice enough place. Good luck on the move, if you must. I am in a management position for an automotive supplier.
Yes ohio does suck im only 16 AND NO IM NOT A KID WHO IS RUNNING HIS MOUTH TO B COOL OR ANYTHING. This state does suck like said many times
weather sucks
people suck
since super wal-mart opened up its goten worse crime wise we all know the ghetto folks.
My dad died in this state
too many foreiners I cant spell it that must B the hick in me i am from ohio.
The water sucks
Jobs suck
To many whores you ever been to dayton
To many crack heads dayton once again
The home-Less DAYTON
To many kids who fucking smoke pot or drink.
Stuoid people
Cops think their top shit im not ripping on cops i have cop faimly members.
People are 2 faced
The air sucks.
NEVER GO TO YELLOW SPRINGS SCARY SAME AS DAYTON
I also hate the people on the phones that call and say blah blah blah I cant under stand you your not even in the states what the fuck. Mr bush has shit away our jobs. But I am for the war.
Ok im surprised some of the kids made it to high school how the hell did they get through middle school.
ALL I CAN SAY IS I CANT WAIT TO MOVE TO NEW YORK -Thanks for reading.
O and the people are rude and mean as shit. HAHAHA
SORRY FOR ANY MISS SPELLINGS
As far as how cheap it is to live in Ohio (compared to California, anyway) I would rather live in a cramped studio apartment, than live in a palace in BFE.
Just stumbled upon this site …. LOL. Sounds like a few of you are just barely dry behind the ears and you “think” you know all about Ohio. Well, I’m 50, was born here in NE Ohio …. and I’m STILL here. I’ll tell you right now this place truly does SUCK …. big time. Why am I still here then ??? Because instead of getting out like I planned early in life I waited until I got a job, got a wife, got a house, and got what usually goes with all that …. buried in debt. So now both the wife and I have good jobs that can’t be replaced anywhere else at age 50 and we’re more or less stuck here at least for a while yet. Actually this state wasn’t all that terrible in the early 1980’s and prior but I’d advise anyone to get the hell out now if you can before you get a life started. About the only thing still the same in this state is the shit weather that comes pretty damn close to being year round.
I believe it’s the 3rd highest overall tax state in the US …. you get nailed for about every tax ever dreamed up right here. And even after all that the convicts claim they’re still broke.
There’s very few new good jobs available anymore ….. the corrupt convicts in the state house drove them out long ago and can’t figure out how to get them back. The idiots that run this state are pathetic …. oh, I forgot …. the whole country knows that now.
It’s nothing more than a Commie police state now, you don’t even want to drive here even if you aren’t a young ” hellion”.
And, as bad as it is, seems like way too many of the must be idiot population want even more fine “police protection”. Could say the same about all the different taxes ….. somebody keeps voting them all in with the exception of the ones the convicts that run this cesspool impose with the stroke of a pencil.
Most of the school systems are basically pretty much of a joke anymore too. They spend about 25% of their time educating and the remaining 75% is spent dreaming up new blackmail tactics to raise taxes even more to pay for all these new college campus high schools they “need” in every one horse tiny town in the state. I’d imagine most of the US population doesn’t even know what a school “income tax” is, let alone all these small city income taxes that this state is so fond of and that all the must be idiots keep letting them push through. Yep, stay here long enough and you’ll always be broke no matter how much $$$ you make.
The people ….. well, I have to say there’s far too many here as in overpopulated ….. at least for me. And, far too many are damn idiots. You can find those in other places too though. I truly believe if you stay in this hell hole long enough it will drag you down to idiot status over the years ….. much like being stuck in the ghetto.
After 50 years of living here and really hating the last 20 or so I’ve noticed the most common response whenever I voice my opinion is one of these two: ” There’s worse places to live” ….. no shit, New Jersey or the like maybe? Or: ” The summers are nice here” …… yeah, sometimes, all 3 months of it and don’t even ever count the number of truly nice days per year we actually get or you will certainly be depressed for sure. Ohio has only 2 seasons … Summer and Shit.
“Armpit of the nation” …. “Communist State” … “No redeeming qualities” …. ” Chernobyl” ( probably spelled wrong but I’m from Ohio). I’ve been calling this place these names for years, thought I invented them ….. guess I’m not entirely alone about my thoughts about this state ….. especially the snow belt region. Only about 140″ average snowfall per year here …. fun.
All I can offer you youngsters is the advice to take a chance and get the hell out of this state while you still can. There really are places that are worse but you stand a much greater chance of landing in a spot better than here. You can pretty much tell that by all the people that move back here after getting out …… there’s a few ….. but it’s a damn small few and many of those moved to a place like Michigan, Buffalo NY, or some other damn armpit just as bad as Ohio.
Rant almost over ….. just one last thing …. really think about this one too. You only have one life and it’s short. When you get a little older you’ll realize how short it really is. If you hate this place now, I guarantee you’ll despise it even more in the future. And no, it’s not getting any better by the year either. It’s a lot easier to take a chance and lose when you have few obligations than to wait until you’re buried ….. debt follows you wherever you go.
Bottom line …. “The great state of Ohio” = Taxed to death, run by convicts, among the very worst climates in the US, few quality job opportunities and in relation high cost of living, police state …. but you’re not safe because there’s no $$$ in protecting the public. Their main interest is in collecting the $$$ of the taxpayer any chance they get all under the guise of “safety” ….. the only real “crime” that gets their attention is the drug related crap ….. big $$$ for them in that …. otherwise you’re basically on your own. They’ll show up after you’re dead to fill out the paperwork.
After 50 years, IMO …… OHIO REALLY DOES SUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I only hope I live long enough to be able to get out forever one day.
Besides the usual rants, honestly, what do you guys think about the Akron or Canton areas? As I have posted before, We are desperate to get out of Atlanta. The cost of living has out-paced our incomes. Our home is languishing on the market (Griffin,Ga)
There are too many people trying to get out of here. Our home is priced @ 179,900.00, (10,000.00 below appraisal) and we are in competition with 40 homes in the same price range. Someone mentioned taxes?? Atlanta, Georgia area has the highest taxes with the exception of the four corner regions of the whole United States. My property taxes alone are 2,000.00. and that is the lower end (my sister lives in N.J. and pays 12,000.00 annually so I know I should be grateful, but her income is also 4x’s more)
Wages here are not coming close to keeping up with cost of living. My husband’s buddy asked his boss for cost of living increase and was told ” I can get a mexican to do your job if you’re not happy” illegals are driving the wages down, and don’t even get me started on the Walmart Corp. I have boycotted that store for the past two years. Also uneducated rednecks are everywhere(remember I do live in Georgia) you cannot get away from them. Also Georgia is ranked dead last, #50 in the area of education. This is why I have homeschooled for the past 9 years. There are many reasons why Ohio is so appealing to us. I guarantee a life without being able to pay just bare minimum living expenses, without outings with the family, without joy, stinks no matter where you live, or what climate you live in.
Akron/ Canton is only ballpark 50-60 miles from where I’m at. They don’t get anywhere near the snow because they’re out of the “lake effect” zone but you can still figure on 3/4 of the entire year being total crap climate wise. You can probably check the real estate tax rates on the net for those places but where I’m at they are 1.3% of the auditors appraised MARKET value ….. $180,000 home = $2340/year. Now add to that whatever the city income tax rates are …. not sure of exact rates but I’ll guarantee you both Akron & Canton have them and they are “probably” 2% of your gross income ….. they collect that tax if you either reside or work there. And, I’m sure they probably also have a local school income tax on top of that …… again not sure of the exact rates because I don’t live there but figure from .75% – 1.25% of your gross income. Both of these additional income taxes are always taken right off the top before any deductions you can claim. Ohio also has one of the highest state personal income tax rates. That’s what I meant about getting nailed for everything in this hole. Start out by figuring an extra 3% of gross income for local city/school taxes ….. add the high state income tax ….. add the fairly high state sales taxes on everything you buy 7-8% depending on locality ….. then pay your normal fed taxes which are the same nationwide. Don’t forget it’s COLD up here most of the year ….. figure to start heating your house around Halloween and continue doing it until well into April. Cost me $2500 last year for a 2600 SF home….. turned down to a chilly 65 degrees. You being in Atlanta probably think 65 degrees sounds comfy, you’ll be freezing up here in the artic at 65 degrees. Heck, even here in the summer when it’s a humid 90 degrees outside, 65 degrees feels good. After months of anywhere from 32 degrees to -15 degrees outside that 65 degree inside temp doesn’t feel all that warm. Prices will be worse this year, fuel oil and natural gas isn’t getting any cheaper. I really highly doubt you are going to be any better off financially by coming to Ohio. You definitely won’t be buying a house here and making double or triple the value in 3-5 years like I read goes on in many places ….. doesn’t happen in the rust belt of Ohio …. figure it goes up steadily with inflation but not much more. You must have your reasons but if I could pull up and move cold with no job lined up, Ohio would be among dead last on the list along with all the other armpit Great Lakes states …. they’re all the same. You really can’t “appreciate” how nasty the weather is for most of the year in this place until you live it. Guess if you sit around in the house all the time it doesn’t matter what it’s doing outside but if you enjoy the outdoor life I’d strongly suggest another state. Also, if you live or work in one of the larger cities and have say a 20 mile daily commute you can figure on that drive taking up to 2 hours in the winter if there’s even a minor fender-bender somewhere along the way …. doesn’t happen everyday but it’s not uncommon. If you’re still dead-set on Ohio, the unglaciated South Eastern section is by far the most scenic ….. I could almost stand to even live down there but I prefer rural country living anyway. Where I’m at bare land is over $10,000 per acre …. not good if you want the small hobby farm type life ….. 50 acres = around $500,000 with no house. What else …. oh, if either of you happen to be smokers, the joker that calls himself the Governor added a $7.00 per carton additional tax recently, also near doubled the license plate and drivers license renewal rates and penned the largest state sales tax rate increase in history.
Believe me, all this crap adds up big time over the year. Ohio, at least the northern half has no redeeming qualities that I can think of. It’s not cheap, your home will never sky-rocket in value, the climate really does SUCK ….. and it’s way overpopulated. Maybe for close to Ohio try Kentucky. That state is beautiful IMO. I hate any big city ever built but, that said, the last time I was in Lexington, KY I thought it was beautiful ….. for a city.
I believe the state of Ohio is one of the population loss leaders … many reasons for that. I bet near half of my closest relatives got out of this state many years ago with all being born here. Between them they went to Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Arizona. I see most of them every couple years, the common denominator is none of them would ever consider coming back to Ohio other then to visit ” stranded” relatives.
Also consider this …… it sounds as you will probably buy a home in the city so it should be connected to a sewer system. If you should happen to buy a home a little farther out though that uses a private septic system make darn sure it’s brand new. This great state has new septic laws supposedly going into effect next year that require all homeowners to update they’re present septic system with some new super-duper thingie that’s reported to cost up to $30,000 …. supposed to be statewide and they will be checking all present systems to make sure they comply. From what I hear even if the system is ” newer” it still won’t pass the new codes. The “newer” system just won’t cost $30,000 to update but it won’t be cheap. Imagine having to come up with 30 grand with a few months notice …. don’t know how they think many homeowners are going to do it. But hey, it’s PATHETIC OHIO ….. like they care. They dream up ways of getting in your pocket on a constant basis …. I know for a fact the whole country doesn’t have to put up with this crap, maybe some places do but certainly not all.
All I can say is “good luck” if you move here. If we weren’t so old and had 20+ years invested in the same job, I’d be out of here right now. Ohio really is a good place to avoid at all costs.
You’ll be bled by every tax there is in aggregate, both now and in your retirement. Still, with all the other bad …. the very worst thing is the climate.
I’m just too tired to comment. I was drinking a bottle of “Ohio Reisling” from Sandhill brewery last night and graduated to “Firelands Pinot Noir”..and that stuff wasn’t half bad. It really wasn’t too bad. I might try some of the concorde wines too.
The wine seems to be something good from Ohio. I can’t say the same about the “fabulous short North” which as usual was the same spoiled/annoying campus pukes aged about 2 years, tatted up, addicted to heroin and transplanted 3 miles south all on their parent’s bank account. They look like the gangliest unhealthy, pasty white, angst ridden physical specimens on earth but this isn’t my place to rant against the Columbus white middle class punks. I really should try and understand them (NoT!)
Just to digress, the “Fabulous Short North” was the brainchild of a guy named “Frank” who is a drunk, mean-spirited old-fart-of-an-architect. He’s so freakin mean he’s probably still alive and blogging about his retro abortion/Disney world.
So anyway, I get to where I’m going (by bike just like a good campus Liberal/pinko compassion fascist). It’s one of those Arabic places with the falafel, Turkish coffee and the hookah pipes. The whole nine yards.
So, I ask the guy, “Can somebody make me a falafel sandwich?”
“Oh no we don’t make fallafel”.
“WTF, it says Falafel sandwiches right on the window glass”.
Ok Ok..I call somebody…
(…I’m thinking this guy’s calling Firdous for takeout…)
“Hey, never mind.” I say, “Just get some hummus out of the fridge.”
Oh, I don’t know how to make hummus.
(JESUS FC,it’s like spreading peanut butter!.. I’m thinking to myself instead of out loud so’s not to offend his muslim sensibilities)
“Hey just give me a cup of coffee. OK?”
Oh…sorry the coffee maker’s broke. Hey does anybody know how to make hummus?!
…I start walking. I’m still trying to figure out how that place makes money. Do they have a card game in the back where they plot the overthrow of the government? Is the “Rich Egyptian Tobacco” really fine South American Cannabis?
More rants on C’bus lack of service, civility and the unworthiness of life of the service profession…to come.
Slim,
Thank you for your comments. You will not believe this, but even after all your rants, Akron/Canton still is measuring up better than Atlanta,Ga. in property taxes,advalorem taxes, sales taxes(8.00 %), special purpose local option taxes(2%”splost”), state taxes, school taxes, and real estate prices. Yes, my home is on the hefty side of expensive, but In Atlanta, you do not get much for the money. I’m not looking for an investment, just a decent place to live. Plus my husband has a job offer in Kent, which will be a 25% increase in income for us. Here, 10,000.00 won’t even pay for a lemonade stand. For 1 acre around here, it will cost between 25-50,000(depending) I still have not paid off my gas bill from last winter, which was kept at 65 degrees. Prices per therm are a total rip off here. (1200.00 $ to go!) I have not had gas utilities for months, They got cut off in april/may. Despite what you may have read, it does get pretty cold here too. It did not even warm up good until May. Summer is too HOT! We are in another drought(97 today) Halloween is my favorite holiday but is somewhat spoiled when you have a heat stroke in your halloween costume. I hate it here! A couple years ago,Do you recall a story on the National News about a town in Georgia that had only enough water for 2 weeks? That was my hometown!! Griffin, Georgia. That news story even made it to Oslo, Norway where my brother lives.(now that’s cold) I love the Rain! Oh! did I mention my family orginates from N.H.? Now let’s talk weather!
….Then you must come to Ohio(Beautiful Ohio) and experience the uninterrupted bliss of the Buckeye State with the rest of us.
Kristine,
I just knew there had to be a reason to pick Ohio out of all the lower 48 ….. like a job offer for 25% more money. For that much more you just may end up a little better in Ohio but I think you’ll find the homes aren’t all that cheap here. Mine is 2600 sf and worth about $210,000 but that includes the 10 acres of land it sits on and it’s also old …. as in 1846 old. I imagine a new house in the Kent area is around $250,000 for a moderate 2500 sf size on a small lot. Maybe look around in Ravenna, that’s a nice small town very near Kent … about 30 miles south of my place. I think Canton would be a little too far to drive …. Akron is a lot closer to Kent but it’s the bigger city style life…. depends what you like. You can either be known as a “city slicker” if you like city life or a “hillbilly” if you like country. I know it can get cold at times in Atlanta but I doubt it’s anything extended like here. If you’ve never lived in a cold climate you’re going to think that first winter will never end … and they only get even longer as the years add up.The $10,000 per acre land price was quoted meaning a parcel of 10 acres or more of raw unimproved land. You won’t get a 2 or 3 acre building lot for $10,000 an acre ….. more like $65,000 and up. Next county over from me the land is less than half that price and if you go way south in the state it seems like it’s almost free in comparison. They always nail you big time for the first few acres. If you hate it that much in Georgia I’d say come on up ….. misery loves company …. Ha!!! I don’t think you’d be treated badly up here being from the south. Not like being called a “damn yankee” for life if say I was going to move down to the deep south …. not counting Florida. Kent is far enough away from that polluted toilet they call Lake Erie that they get probably around 45-55″ of snow per year …… 130-140″ where I’m at in the snow belt gets old real fast.
Bottom line is now days a good job offer means a lot anywhere. Come on up and join the party. Just let me know in 20 years how much you like it here though because I still say …… OHIO SUCKS ….. Ha!!!!!
#71 Slim, Amen to that.. I dont think anyone could have said it better…
Slim,
Your home sounds wonderful!
I mentioned earlier my brother lives in Oslo,Norway. He has a funny way of dealing with a never-ending winter. He constantly tells himself “There is no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothes!”
Ha!! right back at ya!
I don’t want to screw it up for you but Kent’s only claim to fame is the 4 dead students and that John Filo photo.
Way to go – Ohio.
I don’t care for Kent. homes are shabby and waay too expensive, plus the area looks like crap because of all the delapidated student housing.
Another day in beautiful Ohio.
A tenant in one of the condos I’m trying to sell decided to pour 5 gallon buckets of water all over her space–probably to delay my departure. It rained down on the tenants below her and now I have to pay out damages to 3 units.
Apparently she’s very happy where she’s at and she blamed her son. Perhaps she heard I was selling? Maybe she reads the Ohio sucks blog
In fact, every time I get close to escaping this hell hole one of the indigenous fuck-tards of this place pull some shit or some drama that forces me to stay and solve a problem. It’s almost funny if it weren’t so pathetic.
I think that so many folks here in Ohio are so helpless and so dumb-fuck lazy that when someone with about 1% of intelligence and ambition is around they do everything they can to hold you in place. It doesn’t make scientific sense but I’ve seen it happen again and again.
It’s like psychic Munchausen’s syndrome but for an entire population. They hurt you or themselves so you can’t make plans to go.
I can’t wait to escape this asylum. God I want the hell out of this lame-ass place.
#68 BEN You’re one smart thinking kid for only 16. I am 31 and work with all kinds of alcoholics, potheads and whorechasers. Its downright sickening. The best advice I can give you is save your money while you’re young, get out of this damned state, get a good woman, get married and enjoy life in some state with better people, better weather and better air to breathe. Above all SAVE YOUR MONEY!!! I am regretting that I did’nt when I was your age. I am stuck in this damn state till someday when I get the money to finally get out. KEEP THINKING STRAIGHT AND YOU’LL GO FAR. GOOD LUCK
#82 earl Your not alone my friend. Definatly not alone!! Sounds like my life story right there. You know what they say>>>> IF IT WAS’NT FOR BAD LUCK, I WOULD’NT HAVE ANY LUCK AT ALL. or EVERY TIME I MAKE MY MARK , SOMEBODY PAINTS THE WALL. BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME!!!!
I grew up in Chagrin Falls, OH and have to submit it seems a diamond in a world of sand. It’s a pretty sweet town. That written, the rest of the state sucks. Buckeye fans are the worst in the nation (for collegiate and pro sports). I now live on the in Oregon and have never been happier. GET OUT OF OHIO!!! Good luck.
I grew up in an upper-middle class suburb of Cincinnati, then attended Ohio State in Columbus, then moved to Southern California where I’ve lived for 22 years. Yes, Ohio sucks, but it’s looking better all the time. Granted, the winters are horrid and depressing, the salted roads corrode your car in a few years, the summer humidity makes you want to hang yourself, the mosquitos are out of control, it rains far too much, it’s dreary and overcast most of the time, and so on, but I haven’t had the same experience with degenerates that many here describe. Not every neighborhood in Ohio is a blighted cesspool. I’ve met quite a few people in California who are from Ohio. The weather in the coastal areas of Southern California is ideal, but the median home price here is about $700,000 – and that’s in a lower middle class neighborhood. Median apartment rents are around $1,300. It’s impossible to save. If you can’t afford to live in a beach town, it’s as if you’re living in Mexico, with all the Hispanics, illegal and otherwise all over the place – cars blaring that awful band music they like, people speaking Spanish. The Hispanic population here is like 40% now. I’m now in Anaheim and feel like I’m in Mexico. Moving back to Ohio where I could buy a house for a small fraction of what it costs here is looking better all the time (still have family there), though there are a LOT of other places I’m willing to try before I would actually resort to that. My occupation keeps me tied here, but I’m hoping to move on eventually if I can’t afford to live among my own people (fellow Americans), maybe to another Western State which doesn’t have snow and where homes are still affordable and where English is prevalent. If you’re in Ohio, I’d say getting out is a smart move, but don’t come here!
OK Brian, thanks for the reality check about California.
I imagine with the latino immigrant situation being out of control for so many decades that it’s become a hell hole by now. It’s only started getting bad here in the last 2 years. They are expanding their hold here and taking over neighborhood by neighborhood but it’s about 25 years behind what’s happened in S. California.
Too bad the government is too corrupted by greedy corporations and pressure groups to do something about it. We have a stupid government led by stupid leaders who are tools of corporations with no allegiance to any country or moral code.
I’m actually shooting for Portland or Eugene Oregon. I know they get a bad rap for the rain but it can’t be any worse than an Ohio winter (or summer).
Earl,
You really don’t belong in Ohio – you’re WAY too in touch with reality. You hit it right on the head – our government works for corporations (AKA campaign contributors) who want to replace Americans with cheap immigrant labor. Most Ohioans don’t get that. Ohioans helped to get Bush re-elected. That SUCKS!
It grieves me that Americans who are willing to lay down their lives for this country can’t find a job because these traitorous companies would rather hire cheap immigrant labor or offshore their jobs to third-world countries. Like you said – no allegiance.
You really need to leave before you descend any deeper into depression. It seems to me that if you’re going to move clear across the country you should make it worth it, though. You won’t be gaining much in terms of weather by moving to Oregon I’m afraid, and a major contributor to depression is climate – something to think about. You’d probably fare better in Nevada, Arizona or New Mexico.
Yeah, and Oregon starts with an “O” too.
Scottsdale or Prescott,AZ maybe?
Hi everyone!
I was born in Columbus, OH and moved to Youngstown when I was 5 and lived there until I was 23. Now I have lived in Detroit, Dallas, Austin, Tampa, Columbia Missouri, and now I am living in Atlanta Georgia. I love Atlanta and we are staying here! There are actually really good decent paying jobs here. It’s amazing because in Youngstown I was stuck cleaning toilets for a hotel and they tried to not give me my paycheck and my dad had to come in and threaten to sue them! I am having a great life now that I left Youngstown. It was the smartest thing I ever did in my life! yay!
Atlanta’s very cool. That big old city’s got it goin on.
Youngstown has a great rep for dead Italians, dead factories and James Anthony Traficant who made the entirely valid point that IRS employees spend 50% of their work time surfing the web while 60% of taxpayers questions to the IRS go unanswered.
Um…maybe I should get back to work now.
Anybody ever been to a little shithole called Norwood, that town in the past twenty years has lost all of its major industry most recently US Playing Cards and is considered a joke. Due its lazy do nothing cops, the most corupt and selfserving city govornment in the state, an increasing crime rate, and a dwindling population due to the above mentioned. A real shithole
Nope, haven’t been to Norwood. I’m depressed enough by Columbus but I’m not truly and profoundly depressed until winter when you can’t ride a bike or walk outside and you fall on your ass while you’re chiseling 1/2 inch of ice off your car with the plastic handle of your scraper.
I usually bring a broom for the snow and the scraper for the ice. Does anyone else do that? Does anyone actually think it’s “so nice to have 4 seasons?”
Be you havn’t been to Nerdwood becuase that city and its people give Ohio an even worst name than it already has.
For those people who do not want to believe that Cleveland is a shithole numbers don’t lie. Under the CNN MONEY August 15th headline of Home prices in deep freeze, the article laments that the housing market fails to repeat the double digit gains of years past and overall home prices are only up 3.7%. Here are the bottom of the barrel for the whole country.
Losing ground
Danville, Ill.: – 11.2%
Detroit, Mich.: – 8%
Rockford, Ill.: – 5.5%
Davenport, IA: – 5.5%
Cleveland: – 5.2%
All the big cities showed growth…some still over 20% except you guessed it, Cleveland and Detroit. So I ask you when the value of your biggest investment NEVER got the spike that the rest of the country got and it’s one of only two major cities to be on the losing end then why would anyone want to buy a house here? People are stuck here in this shithole, losing jobs losing pensions and losing money on their homes.
Yeah, sell your paid off three bedroom house that you bought 27 years ago for $75 thousand for $150 thousand and pat yourself on your back because you doubled your money. Compared to the rest of the country you made squat my friend, and now you are stuck unless you want another 30 year mortgage on $300 thousand condo in North Carolina.
In the land of depreciating assets….get out before you can’t!
God I hate this place.. These Ohioans are one stupid person and one stupid drama one after another. Every one of them wants my time and lots of $$$…and I can’t escape it no matter what I do.
I can’t sell any of my real estate so I’m stuck in a place where everyone can find me.
I hate this damn place and these damn people so much. They’re all selfish and horrible and have no ambition and no direction except to sponge off somebody else!
Ohio Sucks!!@! It Sucks It Sucks I hate it!!! I fucking hate it !
OHIO: THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY, IMO
Ive been stuck here in OH, dangerously close to the Michigan line, for a few years now. I am trying relentlessly to get out, but it seems every other day something happens here to prevent it. Biggest mistake I ever made was moving here from Maryland.
There is only one good thing about this god-forsaken state: Moving out of it.
The bad and ugly:
1. People. Here in Ohio, generally the residents are scumbags. They are very cliquey, and will backstab you in a moments notice. Getting wasted and driving old beat-up Camaros to the trailer park to see your big girl seems to be the favorite pastime– It is at least in the part of Ohio that I am stuck in. You have to be a “good ‘ol boy” to fit in here. Get drunk, and watch OSU!! If thats not your bag, plenty of tattoos, hat turned sideways, shorts falling off your ass, and plenty more alcohol coupled with pot is the way.
Aside from that, they have their own native language here. For example, instead of a “vacuum” it is called a sweeper. Sweepers are machine guns or brooms, not vacuums. When you say “thank you” to an Ohioan, all you get is “YEP”. “Your welcome” is not in their vocabulary. Also, soda here is called “POP”, A pop is a noise, not a softdrink. These are just a few examples, there are many many more. The accent is a cross between the Kentucky drawl, and the Michigan roll. They couldnt come up with one on their own. I’ve also noticed that everyone is either rude or fake when talking to you.
All the women here weigh at least 190 lbs, and have 5 kids with all different fathers or are pregnant.
2.The weather. Weather here definately adds to the suck. Summers are oppresively humid, rainy, seldom sunny, and very short. Mosquitoes are as big as squirrels, and will attack you relentlessly even if you were swimming in a bath of bug spray. Winters are so cold that you cant even touch your steering wheel in the morning without your fingers freezing to it– thats if you can get into your car after scraping 3 inches of ice off of it. Long, gloomy, sub-zero winters are the norm. They last from October to April here. They use salt on the roads, so not only does your car freeze, it rusts out all over. The brown nasty slush on the roads in winter is no picnic either.
3. Economy. I have been trying to sell my house and move out, almost a year now. I live in what is supposed to be a “nice neighboorhood” by Ohio standards. Toledo is run-down, very very few jobs that dont consist of waiting tables, or low paid factory work. No wonder I cant sell it. Those that have good jobs here are either lawyers or doctors. Ohio has one of the highest bankruptcy rates, so go figure. I can say im glad to have the job that I have, but I have found it pays better elsewhere.
4. The town itself: It is ridiculous. It is impossible to get anywhere without driving. The bus system is sub par, and hardly runs anywhere– if you want to go to a bar or club, your out of luck unless a DD can be found. Walking anywhere is out of the question. That normally does not bother me that much, but just adds to the difficulty of having some kind of fun here. There is no culture here. The downtown is a lifeless concrete nightmare, and the rest is just ghetto stick houses. The only small amount of culture is the baseball field, I will give them that.
Outdoors life is nearly non-existent. Going fishing in polluted lakes and rivers and getting wasted while doing it is all there is. Golf and parks get old quick when they look the same. There are no mountains, ORV parks, or even small hills here. Flat as a table top.
I could go on for hours, but that should give you a good idea. Thanks for reading my rant. I am looking at Arizona, Oregon, or Georgia right now as possible new homes. I have been to all, and have not decided which to move to yet. But I cant even move till this damn house sells. Pardon any misspellings or grammatical errors, its not because im from Ohio.
Good luck to all, hope you can leave soon! OHIO SUCKS!!!!!!
Earl,
This does not sound like it is ohio’s problem! sounds like your problem that you blame on a state! how in the fvck does ohio equate as your problem with real estate?I owned over twenty properties in Florida and can tell you Florida did not hurt me! (and i hate Florida).Grow up! revaluate your holdings sell bad keep good holdings,wright good contracts,hire an attorney,give good service,stay out of slums,and never i repeat never rent property lease option your property.If you need more advice let me know i will give it to you for free( i usually get paid to give advice)If you are at your wits end MOVE!!!!!!!!! nothing is holding you back regardless of what you say! happiness is what you make it and where you make it!
Coldiron,
Wanna buy a condo?…just kidding. I know you don’t.
I’m not a big time landlord like you, I only have 3 and 2 of them are for sale and I’m keeping one until the mortgage goes down. I’m going to leave town after I’ve sold the two but I’ll probably have to lower the price a little bit in MLS. They’re pretty cheap at the price they’re at but the market sucks and I’m probably not going to recoup anything.
I guess I want to get out of here before my 40th birthday. My job is pretty good but it’s not worth staying here with so many messed up relatives and friends who basically eat up all my income (and time) anyway. I have no kids so I’m not referring to a family here- just people who worked their way into my life over a long period of years and they seem to have a lot of luck and persistance in finding me wherever I go.
I had a bad day when I said that but I still think OHIO SUCKS!!!
daytrepper ,
190 lbs?… that’s a lightweight.
Earl,
Its more like 290lbs. I must have been thinking of my own weight.
On the speech thing, the phrase “Have a good one” also annoys the shit out of me. I forgot to mention it.
Ohio SUCKS!!
Earl,
Hang in there! get rid of the dead weight in your life and enjoy!
I’m trying to get out but I’ve dug myself in deep here. What was I thinking?
That’s nothing in Norwood I had so called freinds who not only mooched off me but if they wanted more or I would not give it to them would call the police to come get from me or when i use to bank at the fifth third go down there and take it. The respected members of the community would even go to that bank and clean out your entire account or if you are at the same store, bar, or resturant that they are the scum would stiff you with the bil some friends heh.l
Sheesh Jim, I thought I had it bad. You’re dealing with corruption on a Latin American scale in Norwood. That sounds really bad so actually you should call the FBI and give the names of the “respected member of the community” to them.
Here’s the number to the local offices. Go get em! It’s safe, anonymous, fun and use a pay phone.
(513) 421-4310
(216) 522-1400
Now, now, folks…nothing wrong w/ this State of Insanity that a few million dollars, a few tons of well-placed C 4, strict anti-inbreeding laws and a couple of centuries couldn’t cure.
The FBI has investigated in the past and the city has been found guilty but becuase of legal loopholes and the respected members of the community are either drug snitches or convincingly discredit with the aid of the police those who expose them I even had one agent tell me that he has been trying to nail these clowns for years but have not been able to make anything stick due to witness’s not testifying, their freinds lying on their behalf, and their well to do drug clients always bail them out. As for the Fifth Third goes I beleive the perpertraiters responsable were either fired, retired, or put on notice. This whole thing sounds like something out of a paperback novel but it is true ask anyone who has ever lived in Norwood and they will tell you how corupt it is.
LOL i just stumbled on this site as a pep talk for try to get a job in LA.
You know things are bad in Cleveland when the Latino population decreased, yes DECREASED, between surveys.
My gf of 4 years, doesn’t want to hear of me picking up and leaving (she’s got the house in her name and family upstairs, a daughter in a bloodsucking catholic private high school (we’re cleveland schools over here…need I say more).
Fuck it. Our relationship is half financial half “i feel sorry for you” anyways. I’m not taking my career skills and pissing ‘em away for $10/hr temp job. Which is about all you can find here.
What gets me is. I’m gonna get a position that pays at least 50 grand in LA and despite getting hammered on cost of living. I know I’m gonna be better off.
You see thats how Ohioans scare each other off from leaving. A. cost of living.
B. family
I’m sicking of getting “rolled over” in a layoff and finding there’s no opportunities in my jobset. I’m fed up with Republicans who think the state going to be better if they pass the “patiot act” and I could care less about OSU. I like OU better and I live in Cleveland.
Jim ,
How long have you been off of your meds?
The old earl has been blocked by the host. Meet the new earl.
Hello my fellow Ohioans.
We moved to near younsgtown in 1992 for my wife’s job. This place really sucks. If an armpit had an armpit and if that armpit had an armpit now that would be Ohio. I was born, raised and college educated in WI (go Badgers). Spent 4 years in St. Louis (I wish we could move back) then another 4 years in LA. I have two sons and almost everyday I tell them to get the hell out of here after high school and go to college elsewhere. Thank god we visit WI and TX each year to see family so my boys can see how the rest of the country lives. Don’t get me started on the weather. BTW, my wife is from Dallas and has a Ph.D. and she likes this place–go figure.
Rick,
St.Louis? Dallas, Texas?They both SUCK!!! If you are the man that wears the pants then say “Hey Woman get the stuff together we are moving”But you would rather sit on this site and bitch and complain!Maybe what sucks is you and your attitude! change those two things and maybe you will enjoy life a little more.Remember if your attitude sucks in Ohio it will suck anywhere else.Sorry but sometimes the truth does hurt!
You see thats how Ohioans scare each other off from leaving.
A. cost of living.
B. family
–getting near 40
…so so true. I’m near 40 too.
That’s exactly what they do to you everytime you mention leaving. You know what that’s all about? Misery loves company and everyone wants a free ride.
Do yourself a favor – buy a plane ticket and cancel your cell phone. Do it fast before you can think about it.
I’ve lived in Toledo for a year now. I have to say that this is the worst mistake of my life. As a military veteran, I’ve traveled many places. I’ve been stationed in a few places like San Diego and Chicago. I’m originally from Illinois, and I figured Ohio would be sort of like it. Being the midwest and all. Well…
Speaking for Toledo(ToLittle), this is the worst city(town, I’m sorry) I’ve ever lived in my entire life. Any city that can make Detroit look appealing, is sad. I’m moving to Chicago soon, and I am happier than ever. I liked Toledo, until I met the people. These are the most inbred, stupid, hillbilly in a bigger place people I’ve ever seen in my life. There are actually people here who can’t even write their own name!!! The downtown area is dilapidated, under developed, and sad. Even a sunny day at the Mudhens Park looks like a black and white 1920’s movie. The Mudhens games would be fun if it were in another city, because Toledoans are very wierd and depressing people. They have a look of utter stupidity and cluelessness. There are more churches per person in this city than in any major city in the country. I think that’s bad because if you didn’t go to their church from a child up, they won’t talk to you. There are too many difficiencies to discuss. I’m glad I’m leaving. Please don’t come here. I don’t know the rest of Ohio, but Toledo is a nightmare.
The whole g’dam place is a nightmare. Go to the coast.
Props to Jerold!! Toledo is THE absolute stain on society. Moving here was by far the worst move ever for me too. To hell with this place. Especially Waterville, the worst suburb in society. To hell with it all, and all it stands for.
I hate it! I hate it so much!!! Everyday is another shit-fest. I have decided to move the hell out. I just sold my home, and its into an apartment until I find another state, AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE!! It wont be long now, just a matter of getting a job elsewhere. Then its goodbye forever Toledo, and OHIO!!!!
This has got to be the most sports-barified city in the world. If your hard core into OSU, basketball or whatever, and love getting wasted daily with a cliquey group of idiots, then this is all for you. If your into anything else, forget it, it doesnt exist around here. Man if your not into OSU here, the Ohioans will do terrible, horrible things to you. Its amazing how much this area revolves around it. No culture, pooor pooor nightlife, no outdoors. Want to buy some corn or soybeans anyone? . BLEGH.
What a run-down, dirty, needs-to-be bulldozed, and never rebuilt again city. Especially the east side. The number of vacant buildings is absolutely staggering. There is more trash in the streets than in the landfill. The houses were all built 100 years ago, never been updated or fixed up, and they show it.
I was sentenced to a 2 week stay in Ohio, or as I call it the ” learn to clap state” and I can honestly say that the smartest man in Toledo is retarded. the most beautiful woman in ohio is a visitor. seriously though, they live in a world of their own where they are free from the ravages of intelligence.I can only speak about Toledo as I couldn’t drink enough to visit the rest of the state. I met the winner of the miss humpmonkey contest.the best thing about Toledo is when I flush , I dont see it anymore.
I posted a review about Columbus at epinions. Check it out (http://www.epinions.com/content_224000511620). The State of Ohio is in shambles. It is not a very good place to live and as soon as I sell my nome, I will be leaving and not returning. I grew up in the Boston area and when i moved here at 13, I thought I moved to a backwards place. My fears at 13 still hold true today as I am 30. Soon my family and I will be out of here, though.
By the way, the tax situation is insane and the housing prices are abhorrent for what you get. A crappy production home can cost you above $500,000. An average crappy production home is about $250,000 in Columbus.
We are outta here!
B
Well, this is my second comment. I went to Cedar Point on Saturday. Well…
The park itself lived up to it’s hype. It really was one of the better parks I’ve ever been to. I’ve been to a lot of them, so that’s saying a lot. The place…awesome. I really enjoyed the park. The one thing that really dampened the experience was the Ohioans. I was there for a company picnic, as I work for a company in Toledo. All I can say, is that if it weren’t for me running into my co-worker(who happens to be from Buffalo), I would’ve spent the whole day by myself. Ohioans(a lot of them seem to be from Toledo) seem to be very anti-social and unfriendly. As a lot of you are saying, if you aren’t into Ohio State Football…then you are considered an outcast. As it so happens, they had a game that day. My co-worker and I stopped into that sportsbar called Gameday inside the park to grab a beer. It was ridiculous. It was a sea of red. Now, being a sports fan myself, I’m not knocking going to a nice sports grille and cheering on your favorite team. But, Ohioans ruin your experience, because they are so hostile to non-OSU fans. My buddy from Buffalo said to me,”These people are nuts!!!” We actually got rude looks from the people, because we weren’t cheering on the Buckeyes. I thought to myself,”You know, you can’t go anywhere in Toledo and just have genuine fun.” Even though, the park is in Sandusky…I know. It just seems like a lot of people from Toledo were there. I wonder if the whole state is like Toledo. I came to the conclusion that if you don’t like getting drunk to oblivion, fighting, or eating…you are not a Toledoan. I think it’s sad that there are actually people in the world(especially America) that foster such a negative mentality. I am on pace to move out of here in May, so until then, I guess I have to suck it up. I just hate being 26 and there’s no nightlife or people to meet.
I have run out of negative comments about my home town. The angry bitter fount is dry for the moment. I do know that it is not a good time to be selling your Ohio real estate and after about 30 bad showings I just gave up selling the one I’m in (tried in 05 to sell it too) and probably am going to rent the remaining vacant (no deals there either) place to an OSU student and just keep plugging along here until Berneke lowers the interest rates or hell freezes over or whatever. At least the weather’s been nice.
Well I now live on the West Coast, before that I lived in Ohio for 21 years. I find that most areas have positive and negatives, and most cities have very bad, poor, decrepid sections. I also find, even in places like California, you have populations that have not moved out of their native areas and remain ignorant to the rest of the country. But what I do think is a common thing with Ohioans is a bitterness and hostility to difference. Anything that is outside of the middle or foriegn or new or challenging they are sure to hate on it and usually put it down (in their insecurities) by calling it “elitist” or “extreme” or “radical” or “upperclass”. Watch out for the Ohio haters, they are real, and they will cut you down every chance they get.
I’m with ya dave. They always hated me although they usually call me “Sir” now before they start putting me down.
A damn insecure bunch aren’t they? They project their narrow-minded hostility on everything that isn’t scarlet and grey. They even get suspicious if you’re into pro sports instead of freakin OSU.
Can’t wait to get out of here.
Hey everyone. I hope you all don’t mind me airing out my frustrations here. I’ve found a sort of rescue mission in this site to let out my feelings about Toledo and it’s inhabitants. I now understand why outsiders to Toledo say that Toledoans will stab you in the back. I just got done cleaning off the rusty knife that some of them stabbed me with. It’s work related and I won’t go into detail, but I’ve learned a valuable lesson about this town and it’s “good ole boy” mentality. I’m now, more than ever, even more motivated to getting out of here. Moving from a place has never been a priority in my life. Toledo changed all of that. I agree with Dave on the fact that, even on the West Coast, different regions have their issues and characteristics. Toledo is different in my opinion. It’s really a negative city(town, I’m sorry). To call this place a city is an insult to thriving places that have long overcome this sort of small town, secluded mentality. I ran into a church buddy of mine, who is also trying to get out of Ohio. She said that even at my church, they are just unfriendly. I can’t believe that this is reality. I feel like I’m on another planet. Is ALL of Ohio like Toledo? Please let me know. I trust that an entire state can’t be as detached from reality as one town. I mean, Detroit is only 40 minutes away, and it seems like it’s an entirely different world from Toledo. No offense to Detroit, but for a town to make it look appealing is down right disgusting.
Jerold,
Just leave Ohio. Forget about living here. GO WEST! Go! Get the Hell out of here! It all sucks. Nobody cool stays. It’s the worlds capital of psychic vampires and drama queens. Go!- before they drain your life force.
Get your keys and wallet and run out of your house. Don’t look back til you cross the state line.
^Exactly, earl!
IT SUCKS HERE!! Just looking outside today at the cloudy cold day makes it even worse.
There is so much drama here, that everyday I feel as if this whole place is one big soap opera reality. Jerry Springer should open up a new show here. He would become three times the millionaire he is.
What a HOLE! I now hate Ohio with a passion. Constant shit-fests, everyday, all day. It is now most definately the scum of the earth!
Ugh, the people here are so full of shit!! Nobody keeps their word. They are abunch of ignorant, self-absorbed, conceited, naive pricks. Whomever said this is the “learn to clap state”, and the ” thats not how we do it here state”, was damn right.
The only good thing to come out of this whole experience is that I didnt turn into one of them.
I will disappear from this wasteland like a fart in the wind as soon as I can, hopefully very soon. I wish all the rest of you the best of luck in getting the hell out of here, never to return!!
OHIO SUCKS!! IT SUCKS!!! SUCKS!!!!
It’s just the lack of ambition and desire to drag everyone to their level that gets you down. You get somewhere and then they start thinking “Oh, now he thinks he’s better than us. Let’s find a way to screw up his life. Let’s milk this guy for all he’s worth.”
The only cool people are the ones passing through. The place is pathetic. It’s like a lazy beach town without a beach or a ski resort without a mountain. I can’t stand it.
Entry 3:
Hello all. I’m making my third entry, and I still have nothing good to say about this place. Tell me something. Is it just me, or do people from Toledo only talk to other Toledoans? You know, I think they know their own kind. Everyone in Toledo has a look about them. A mannerism, that is only displayed by Toledoans. It’s a look of just utter cluelessness and hopelessness. I hate that look. It seems like if you don’t have that “I don’t know my asshole from a hole in the ground” look on your face, they won’t talk to you. I’ve also noticed how crappy the service is at damn near every, and I do mean EVERY, business in this God-forsaken town. Just one after the other, all of these people are rude and very stupid. If you’ve met one Toledoan, you’ve met them all. Everyone is the same here. EVERYONE!!! No one has a different personality. No culture or optimism or motivation. The only thing that I’ve seen Toledoans do with some enthusiasm is gossip and try to tear down someone. It’s sickening. Drink till you piss on yourself and watch Ohio State Buckeye Football. That’s the most culture you’ll find in Toledo. I think I’ve met more inbred hicks here in Toledo, than I did when I visited Kentucky. This is definately the Glass City, because I see through all of this B.S. Good luck to everyone in OUR quest to escape the assylum that is Ohio.
With faith, courage, discipline and a better real estate market we will all God-willing…escape this icy hell, this Siberia of the soul, this malignant fast food fat cell metastizing on the buttocks of mother earth.
Now here’s a guy who’s been to Ohio. Check out his ratings page.
http://amath.colorado.edu/student/lawrenjb/ohiosucks/appendix.html
For those of us with years still left on our sentence, I have found yet another Ohio diversion in addition to drinking the native’s wine. Here are some ODNR cabins which aren’t a bad way to escape the tedium of lame Ohio cities. They’re cheaper than the commercial variety and easy to reserve.
http://www.ohiodnr.com/parks/lodging/default.htm
It’s for those times when you can’t make a long weekend in the Poconos.
I can understand why some people aren’t all happy with Ohio, but I think a lot of comments are far too extreme. There are worse states in the country in terms of the economy, weather, pollution, ugliness, etc. People always seem to forget about Indianna. IN has it far worse than OH.
AND I just don’t think it is fair to make sweeping characterizations about the state. People live in a lot of different kinds of cities, different kinds of suburbs, and different kinds of rural areas. There is no “one and horrible” Ohio as many people are claiming.
There are very different parts and very nice parts that could certainly satisfy everyone. Maybe not everyone would be pleased, but I think everyone would be quite satisfied if they knew where to look for the things they are looking for. I like talking to my friends or other people I meet who are so down on Ohio. After talking to them I learn that they are actually just very unaware of how different Ohio is and how much it actually has to offer.
I think after living here for 39 years that it’s a nice state if you are a mom or a dad and just want to settle down somewhere and buy a big house and raise your kids.
If you are highly career ambitious, enjoy change and beautiful scenery and not into the family thing then I don’t see that it offers anything at all.
I agree there are good things here but there are great things elsewhere. You try to make the best of where you’re at.
If you want to live out your life in Dayton or Columbus ,Cleveland or Youngstown .well then good for you. Enjoy yourself.
..But if you’ve been other places and seen some of the wonders of this world as I have then you know that it can be improved upon. Travel does broaden the mind and people should just get the hell out of Ohio because it’s anything but a broadminded place. It will drag you down if you stay. Take it from somebody who knows better than most.
To earlthepearl: I don’t quite agree with you about people who have been other places and seen some of the wonders of the world necessarily needing to get out ofOhio. I’m fairly young myself (22), enjoy a variety of types of things, career ambitious, and in my 22 years I’ve probably spent two years (cumulatively speaking) outside the state and traveling to some of the most fabulous places in the world.
We have to remember that any particular place is narrowminded- no matter where you are. Indeed every place in Ohio is narrow-minded in their way. BUT if you travel around Ohio through the various rural parts, the various suburbs, and the various urban centers you will find in Ohio- just as in the world- that there are a variety of different view points, cultures, and lifestyles.
If I had only known my specific community that I grew up in Earlthepearl, and then traveled outside of the state and outside the country I would agree with you that Ohio is nice for families as a place to settle down. BUT you see I have come to understand that my community is not necessarily typical Ohio. Typical Ohio does not exist. If I wanted to have a white collar job and have a family in the suburbs I could do so. If I wanted to have a blue collar job and have a family in a working class neighborhood I could do so. If I wanted to live in the country I could do so. If I wanted to have a bohemian artist lifestyle and live in the city near art galleries and coffee shops I could do so. If I wanted to be a young professional and live in a new swanky apartment near the clubs, I could do so.
To Edgewater03 :
It looks like Ohio created an antibody. This is certainly one of the better defenses of Ohio. I’ve come across on the net and I look forward to refuting you on a day that’s less hectic than today.
Not many people want to step up and defend the home of the useless nut.
Perhaps when you’re 39 you may feel a little bit different about the place as you’re friends bug out to better places and you slowly grow a thick hide of contempt for the same-old-same-old. I’m sure it’s easier when you are 22 for a lot of reasons.
B.T.W. I’ve been to at least 25 countries spanning Asia, Europe, Eurasia and the Americas so I might know something. I travel out of this siberia every winter for as long as I can.
Hello everyone, like many of you I stumbled on this sight by googling OHIO SUCKS. I have lived here for 12 years, originally from Michigan… the biggest sucky thing about Ohio has been the rude ass bags. I was never a sports fan but have become a Michigan fan over the years because of the fucktard Buckeye fans treating me with such contempt just for being FROM Michigan. I am looking forward to retiring somewhere else… but unfortunately my DH (who unfortunately is a buckeye fan, but not a rude ass bag) and I have to work another 15 years if our jobs are here that long! Here lately I’ve been wishing the company we work for would go belly up so we can get out of here. He is a native but hates it too. I also had to laugh when you talk about the fatties… You wouldn’t believe all the jealous biscuit n gravy eating sows I have to work with…. and if they’re not in the over 200 range they look like their mother and father were siblings. They can’t be nice to a normal looking female! OH WELL, I don’t prefer to converse with them anyway, they are all emotionally unstable or have some other severe personality defect anyway! My 9 yr. old son has a better sense of humor and better conversationalist than the ugly fat bitches I work with!
Hey everyone, doing another entry. Well, I got back from Detroit today. I went to the game yesterday afternoon to watch the Detroit Tigers beat the dark side. Although I’m a White Sox fan, I’d much rather see someone else win besides the Yankees. I had so much fun. The place errupted with excitement. The best thing of all…NO BUCKEYE FANS!!! I was so glad that there is somewhere that is semi-normal that I can now escape from Toledo. I think its funny because I went to a Detroit Tiger playoff game, and I got the full ambience of a playoff baseball game. I went to the Toledo Mudhens playoff and championship games (ALL of them.) The stadium is very nice, but it was empty because of the start of high school football and OSU games. I think that its sad that this city doesn’t patronize something other than getting drunk, going out to eat, and taking you big girl to a high school football game. I know it sounds unbelievable, but high school football games to Toledo, is like a night out at the Knicks or Yankees game to New York. The people are so small minded here. Maybe I’m just being knit-picky, but this place has just pushed me to my wits end with the cliquey, good ol’ boy, narrow-minded vibe it gives off. I mean, no offense to Detroit…but it was supposed to be the mean city. I have more friends up there than I have made here in a year of living here. I actually like Detroit. I didn’t think I would, but I go up there whenever I want a change. What is Cleveland like? I’ve been through, but not to it. Is it like Toledo? I read some of your responses and I don’t want to go there if it is as bad as people say it is. And props to the girl from Michigan. I like people from Michigan as opposed to Ohioans. You know, I think Ohio is actually the lost confederate state that floated north. I mean, think about it. The small town mentality, they HATE northern states(Michigan/Pennsylvania), the pickup trucks, the college football madness, the number of times you see a confederate flag and trailer parks per square mile. Think about it. Ohio, the northern most southern state. Then again, that’s in insult to all southern states. So, Ohio is just an outcast and I apologize to the south for comparing it to Ohio. That is just downright inhumane.
Another reason Ohio SUCKS the big Kaboobee… that SF song… We don’t give a damn for the whole state of Michigan…. like they care you sf tards!…… Yeah, I am going home to Michigan to visit for a few days and getting out of here!!!!! WOOOHOOO! GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The one thing that i always noticed living in Norwood was that these idiots never have money to pay their bills on time or to buy food but they always have money to go to the bars seems like in Ohio ones vice takes priority over personal responsabilities go figure.
Hello all,
You know, I never noticed just how lazy and stupid these people are until I started working here. They complain about there being no jobs here, but when they get a job…they don’t wanna work. I work with some of the laziest m.f.s in the country. The worst part about it, they will complain whenever they have to start doing what they are supposed to be doing. In their little Ohio mind, they’re picking up your slack. I can’t believe half of the stuff I’ve seen. And this “good ol boy” mentality. I’m still waiting for someone named Cooter to come along and tell everyone how much fun he had at the high school game he went to on Friday night. This town is so damn weird.
Hello everyone!
Let me start by saying i have lived in alot of places growing up (Ohio,Michigan,Western NY,MN,and Boston) And am currently living in Dublin Ohio. Yes alot of what you say about Youngstown, Cleveland and Akron is true. But alot is false. In the list of places i have lived i would put ohio second behind MN. It is nice if you are in the right places. I am in a nice clean area with NO crime A ton of jobs and million dollar homes. Yet i can still afford a two bedroom apt. for under 700 a month. Try that in Boston. The LOWEST i could find a two bedroom apt in and around Boston was in NH and it was 1300 a month. im making just as much as i would have there and in a year my new house will be built on 1 acre of land with 2100 square ft of space for under 250K. That would be unthinkable in MANY other places. Alot of the people bashing Ohio are young, they havent had to fend for themselves yet. NY is crazy exspensive and i know alot of mindless new yorkers. In Ohio i can get away from people and start my life faster then in the east coast. The fact that some people here are stupid doesnt matter so much to me people are stupid everyplace. I do whats best for me and my family and there are alot of good schools outside of the inner cities. To tell you the truth most of the people i meet on a daily basis are from somplace else. So if Ohio is Shitty because of the people that live here and they are from other places, then other places have shitty people also. Point being the upside of Ohio (at least central Ohio) is better then the downside for me and alot of other people. Also i dont think its fair to judge a state just by driving through it, have any of you people been to GA or KY or even WV and WY? I have and as bad as ohio seems it gets alot worse in other places. Food is cheap here, land is cheap here, gas is cheap here, everything cost less its really not that bad of a place.
sorry for any spelling errors
-ryan
Hey Ryan,
You bring good points to the table. I’m not knocking the cost of living at all. I mean, this place is good as far as trying to get on your feet. I lived in L.A. for 2 years, and let me tell you…I don’t think anywhere in the U.S. is more ridiculous when it comes to cost of living then L.A. You’re practically paying for sunshine out there. My main gripe with Ohio(well Toledo, anyway) is that you run into a lot of close mindedness here. The town has a lot of potential and COULD really go somewhere. It’s just the mentality of the people here. That “good ol’ boy”, small town in Indiana crap. I never thought that a city this size could foster such a wierd mentality. I’m in the process of moving, and a large part of the reason why the move is going to be a success(which is also a blessing) is the fact that Toledo is dirt cheap to live in and I’m saving a ton of money. I’m planning on buying a house, though. So, if I get stuck with something here and want to move later, I don’t know how difficult that would be. Seeing the fact that the housing market is more or less crippled up here in the rustbelt area. I agree with your point of view. Props and much respect.
Jerold
Yes Ryan, that is ONE thing I am thankful for… the cost of living because that means I will be able to retire early in 15 years and get out of this state. I have live in the big city and you get no where fast paying rent. My house payment is only 500 a month and I will have it paid off in 3 yrs. Not too many places you can do that! I just am really happy I’m not from here and that my son has gotten to travel quite a bit so he knows Ohio isn’t what the whole planet is like mentality wise!
Hi again thanks for the replies,
Both of you bring up a good point, people in the “rust belt” and really most of ohio seem stuck in the mudd. Which is dissapointing but provides all the more opportunity to people who are not like that. As far as character and Culture yes the east coast wins hands down but with that huge diverse population your in more of a “rat race” kind of life style. And yes i would like to see more of a “can do” approach to people in Ohio, instead your going to see more of a “im happy with how things are right now” outlook. But the way i see it, its just easy pickens for me i now run my own business and just take their money all day long. And really as much as i miss Bostons culture, most bostonian’s are rude opinonated stubburn people and compaired to that people out here (while not the brightest stars in the sky) are not so bad. I guess if i lived in Ohio my whole life i might have a different outlook but where i am in my life compaired to people i know back in New England im way ahead, not so much with a career but as far as money goes im much more secure. Well to each his or her’s own and the best advice i can give to anyone is if you dont like where you are, you need to find a way out or continue to struggle through it to a brighter future.
thanks again everyone
And sorry for any errors grammer or spelling
thanks
-Ryan
Work Without Hope
All Nature seems at work. Slugs leave their lair -
The bees are stirring -birds are on the wing -
And Winter slumbering in the open air,
Wears on his smiling face a dream of Spring!
And I the while, the sole unbusy thing,
Nor honey make, nor pair, nor build, nor sing.
Yet well I ken the banks where amaranths blow,
Have traced the fount whence streams of nectar flow.
Bloom, O ye amaranths! bloom for whom ye may,
For me ye bloom not! Glide, rich streams, away!
With lips unbrightened, wreathless brow, I stroll:
And would you learn the spells that drowse my soul?
Work without Hope draws nectar in a sieve,
And Hope without an object cannot live.
-Samuel Taylor Coleridge
I come from a family that has until myself lived in Ohio in abject poverty for the last 100 years and I think my life experiences and observations qualifies me to say that the greatest problem facing Ohioans is a lack of Hope. I think one of the earlier posters put it right when he said that Ohio will give you a couple good days then turn around and stab you in the back. Some people have said Ohio isn’t all bad and they are correct there are good places but having lived in South Eastern Ohio (ranked the poorest place in the entire U.S.) where the vast majority of people are living at or below the poverty level and having lived in some of the best places Upper Arlington, Columbus, the suburbish “ex-urbs” around Cincinnati, I have to say the majority of Ohioans live in poor, dead-end job, slum/trailer-park/poo-dunk communities. The real problems with these places is the cycle of poverty, hopeless poverty and the ignorance that goes along with it. From having had the luxury of traveling the nation on both coasts, down many many biking tours of Ohio and been raised in a more “cultured” home I can say the comments on the bible thumping, narrow minded, ignorant, self-defeating, redneck culture are very true. The people here worship at the alter of football and motor sports, while pounding down some type of drug, alcohol or both to distract themselves from their sad lot in life. The fear of finances that prevent people from leaving is all too real as while the housing is “affordable” the average wage is scaled down as well, a $75,000 dollar home takes time to pay off on a $26k/yr income (espcially with a family to support on that wage). In my hometown I grew up in all to often people, particularly men, would commit suicide if they were diagnosed with cancer or some other severe disease as it was not the depressing news, but the thought of the financial burden treatment would place on the family that put them over the edge (as there suicide notes stated). The weather seems to reflect the generally negative and depressing attitude of Ohio’s denizens, 7-8 months of grey rainy skies gives way to hot, humid, opressive summers. Ohio literrally gets more precipitation than Seattle and more days of cloudy skies. Right now I’m looking a graduating from OSU this year and being the first person in both sides of my family to have ever recieved a college degree. I soon will be leaving Ohio to find a job just like the majority of Ohio college graduates in what has been termed in Ohio as “The Great Brain Drain” as this state offers few job oppertunities for someone with a degree aside from teaching in the public shools or managing some telemarketing call center. Every time I go home I struggle with things that others have already commented on from friends and relatives wanting to suck off any potential wealth me and my family can offer as they feel they are “owed” to being treated like shit out of hand because I’m now a “big headed college boy”. I take this in stride and with good humor because in contrast when I was in high school and playing varsity football at my parents behest, my team was always in state title contention and these same people insisted on treating me like some hometown hero(which I hated). To this day they insist, as they did then, that those would be the “best years of my entire life”. This is becuase next to NFL and College football, high school football is the next favorite thing on Ohioans lists and this is not limited to the rednecks. Maybe this gives you some more personalized insight into the type of people that live in Ohio and why, though I won’t say Ohio sucks (there are far worse places in the world) it is in fact loaded with negatives. I included the above poem because it really expresses the hopeless-malaise that effects the people here and like its author the people can’t seem to ever free themselves from: money woes, major family problems(abuse etc.), drug habits, unwanted pregnancies. So all they can do is sit idly by stuck in their problems. ABANDON ALL HOPE YEE WHO ENTER HERE!
Here’s a list of things I’ve noticed in my life:
Corrupt Politicians
High Taxes (we’re rated 11th highest in the nation)
Bad Public School Systems (We never covered English grammer at my shool IM NOT KIDDING!)
Major Drug Problems (#1 Meth consuming state YAY!)
Rapidly Growing Crime Rate
Overweight People ( Everything revolves around watching sports and eating food here! Columbus is the 4th fatest city in the U.S)
Ignorant People (All the smart people are leaving!)
Obnoxious People
Narrow Minded People
Religiously Intolerent People (had Hanzel and Grettle taken out of my elementary school b/c it “promoted” witch craft)
Crap Weather
Ugly People (Seriously I’ve noticed from my friends at OSU and my travels that the majority of natives are much more homely than the average from abroad person, our women have V shaped bodies for christ sake!)
Briars – defn: redneck, particularly one who’s ancestors left Appalachia to work in Ohio factories during the great depression.
High Arsenic Levels in the Water ( Hope you like intestinal cancer yum! yum!)
Racists (Goes with the whole redneck thing)
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llegal Immigrants (Seriously we have a ton of factory/service industry jobs and fruit farms. I know people from the
Southwest and they never fail to make the comment “They are more damned illegals here than in Texas/Arizona/N.M./Cali”)
Finally We Have only Lake Erie seperating us from Canada, on a quiet winter’s night when there has been a recent cold snap you if you listen closely you can here them sharpening their skates, waiting for the lake to freeze over so they can come down and steal our cheese!
Okay so the last one was just for fun! Seriously though I like Canada, cold, but its got some friendly-funny people.
Wow, Exodus… you are a very eloquent young man! Good for you for getting an education. My step daughter is at OSU and I have high hopes for her as well to get out there and have a better life than her relatives… her mom’s family is exactly like the girls’ family in Million Dollar Baby if you’ve seen it!
Congrats Exodus. I truly envy you. Get out before the sick bastards here kill your soul.
If you’ve got family ,friends or business associates —just turn off the phone. They’ll throw more drama at you than a Shakespeare festival to get you back. GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!! Don’t let me catch you around this state again.
Hey Ex,
I’m blown away at your comment. You have really given me an insight to what the rest of Ohio is really like. I didn’t know half the facts that you stated about it. I’ve figured that the narrow-mindedness what just limited to Toledo. Here, the job market is broken. Detroit looks attractive compared to Toledo. The crime rate is growing as is teenage pregnancy and domestic violence. The downtown area is deprived of all hope, thanks to the mayor here. He seems like one of those good ol boys who only wanna fatten the pockets of his friends. The people here have a real unfriendly, rustbelt, “what the F*** are you looking at” mentality. I’ve never, in my life, been to a place where the thing to do on a Friday night (for the ENTIRE town) is go to their old high school to watch football. It’s amazing how the mentality has regressed so in this area. There are no jobs unless you know someone, or want to work at a factory. You even have to know someone for that. I can’t believe that there is actually a train of thought like this. You seem like a really driven person. I’m on pace to move out of here in May. I wish you luck and happiness. See you on the other side.
Jerold
Yep, it’s raining hard right now in Central Ohio, but all I need is a full belly, snuggly woman and a. roof over my head. And I have all 3, so Ohio don’t suck too bad tonight, and the rain will help me sleep like a rock. Good luck to you all!
What a great blog!! Great posts all!! I could not agree more. Lets keep it going!
I have been stuck here for 3 long years, as a result of an unfortunate job transfer from Maryland.
What a mistake moving here was. Exodus could not have summed it up better for me.
I have been posting my negative thoughts on city-data.com/forum. My opinions are not well taken there, because of the many people there that see Ohio thru “rose colored glasses”. It would be great if some true Ohioans, such as those here, that really want out could get over there and post some real insight on what life is like in this god-forsaken state.
I have finally sold my house in Toledo almost after 2 years of attempts, repairs, and lowering the price. I am living in an apartment now and researching many different cities. I will be leaving this cesspool soon.
Natives: Just my 2 cents. There is soo much out there. Ohio is a stain on the mattress compared to what possibilities, culture, life, and every other part of reality that exists in the rest of this great country!! Leave this place and get out there and experience it!! The sky is the limit.
Hope to all the very best, and good luck in leaving this place!!!
Hello all,
This is probably my 6th or 7th entry now. This place is just cool for me to vent frustration from being confined in the “broken glass city”. After reading the majority of the comments here. I now realize that I’m not alone in the quest to leave the Cockeyed State. Chicago is looking better and better by the day. I really can’t wait to leave. I almost lost my job today due to just plain racism and bias. This guy at work, who barely works at all, goes to his “good ol boy” buddy (who is also my supervisor) and complained about how I was making his job harder on him. I work in production, so it’s very hard to make someones job harder is everyone is supposed to be working. I guess I did make it harder, because I interrupted his conversation that he’s paid $10 an hour to have with the other yahoos on the line. Anyway, he’s in the lunch room telling the supervisor how butt hurt he is that him and his buddy couldn’t finish their conversation because work interferred with it. By the way, they were talking about high school football. I was just doing my job and telling them that everyone can’t keep picking up their slack. I got written up for that. I was so upset. Not only at the stupidity of the issue at hand, but that the supervisor would entertain such a stupid complaint. I guess that goes with the territory of messing with inbred good ol boys. This is one of the only towns I’ve ever been to that is really bad with that mess. You would swear that only 10 1/2 people lived in Toledo if you weren’t from here. Good luck to all trying to leave.
First of all PA doesn’t suck for whoever said that. Ohio does suck – my wife is from there and we moved back to Pittsburgh after college. I’ve been alot of places in the US including Hawaii and I must say Ohio is comparable to say Mississippi. Anyone reading this who lives in Ohio should move. Yes there are nice neighborhoods around Cleveland, but what city doesn’t have that? There are just those “intangible” things that everywhere seems to have but Ohio. Like PA has alot of history to it and Philly and its natural beauty and wildlife. Ohio just deosn’t seem to have anything but endless suburbs that make you feel like a rat in a cage. Hell even WV is pretty scenic if you can get past the locals. I use to hate Ohio, now I just feel bad for you guys. Sorry!
Ok let’s face it, 90% of us on here know Ohio sucks and most of us can give a million reasons why it does suck… But what, if anything, could Ohio do to fix itself? Do the people that live there need a better attitude? More things to do? Better football team? Better weather? New governor? Fix up Cleveland? Less a$$hole cops? Raise the speed limit? I do not live in Ohio but have spent the better part of 5 years there for college so I have some idea of what makes that place horrible so let’s hear it!!!
I never saw a state outside the northeast with so many smartass flaming assholes like Ohio has no wonder people want to leave.
Browns suck,
For one, Ohio could use less sportsbars, and more outdoor and cultural activities. Everything there is to do here revolves around drinking and OSU. OSU is cool, but I am tired of hearing about it 24/7. The main activity here seems to be drinking. That could use some improvement.
The weather? Yeah, it sucks most of the year, but if there were other things here to offset that, then it wouldnt be a problem. The problem is, in the winter, everyone disappears into a heated cave and never comes out. If there was something for people to do other than drink and go to the mall then maybe people would get out a little more.
The other thing here, its very hard to find someone to start an intelligent conversation with. You talk about anything other than OSU, when you will drink next, or which girl you will take home, and all you get is this dumbfounded look like you were talking in a foreign language.
Its not all bad here, but there are certainly many many more negatives than positives. I cant stand it here anymore, and am in the process of getting out. The sooner the better.
Browns suck,
The lack of decent culture and nightlife is another bad thing about Ohio. As daytrepper explained, all there is to do in this town is go to the bar, watch OSU football, get drunk, go to church and squeeze just enough time in to reproduce and eat. Downtown Toledo is a morgue after 5pm on a Friday night, and barely open at all on Saturday. The only thing that is remotely cultural down there is Fifth Third Field(the minor league ballpark). It was actually graded the best minor league field in the nation. I will never take that away from them. Outside of that, I don’t know. This town thinks that Dave & Buster’s is wierd. Go figure.
I just turned 40 in Ohio today. Please shoot me.
BANG!
I visited Ohio on August 1st. It was Akron, OH and what I saw I thought it was tons of shopping malls and eateries. I was like god damn. I’m from Westchester County 10 minuates from the Bronx, NY (NYC) and I thought the eateries were out in Long Island or out in New Jersey along route 17 near the Garden State Plaza. BTW I was visiting a friend who was working at the Univ of Akron follow that up by going to the Hall of Fame Ceromonies in Canton, OH seeing Harry Carson getting Inducted. Well anyway, enough of the other news and on to the matter as I went there and I noticed it was flat. Yes flat. Then, I also noticed on my tour through Akron with my friend that we went along Market Streets and saw how a lot of shopping areas there. One of the malls was Summet Mall. and around there were lots of restaurants. Tons of them and I mean comercial ones. Then we went to another mall which was the Springdale mall and I saw nothing but resturants along West Market Street. I mean I didn’t see a bunch of fatso but I had to imaginate that if it was a Saturday Afternoon then yes the fatsos would rule. But it seemed alright, maybe if you are an old person or had a family. I went to Cleveland and I was expecting the flats to still be life. I went there back in 2000 and it seemed alive. Then I went there and it was dead. I noticed the warehouse district and it was good but I was with friends and didn’t do much there. But before these rants I was first of maybe considering of living there and renting an apartment and getting a job in the Akron area. Now once I saw this site I gave it a second thought, but damn I don’t know if I want to do that now. Hot summers and cold winters with nothing in between. But if there are a ton of fat girls then damn that’s not good. I like pretty ladies BTW in shape. Anyway, I am talking and talking but if the ladies are giving you folks troube in Ohio. Then google David DeAngelo for the lady problems and his stuff can get you great game on getting the pretty ladies of Ohio ( not overweight and ugly (base on each indviduals attraction)). Now for the rest of the people I’d just say you might want to leave for more better quality folks. Because this does not sound good. I mean their whole lives are Ohio State Buckeye’s and drinking beer or the Browns and Indians in Northeast Ohio. That sucks. I’m a Giants fan but at least I have a life I go to. I work out, go to the gym, go out at times at night or play chess in certain spots or movies etc…………. And it doesn’t make or break me if a person or friend doesn’t root for the home town team. But it seems like it’s work and home and dead end stuff and bitterness and rednecks and ghetto trash. Not my cup of tea. BTW I thought Ohio ladies were attractive at Ohio State University. Just curious.
BTW, I am not in no means trying to disrespect the state. Seriously. I also forgot to mention that when I passed two exits before going to the Hall of Fame Ceromonies in Canton, OH I saw another plaza which had Longhorn Restaurant and more eateries. It was a slew of plazas and that was near the Akron-Canton Regional Airport. I think it was the strip. And there was a place off I-77 where I-480 intersect and there seemed to be restaurants there too. All I can say is that it seems like that part Ohio has a ton of eateries with folks that make tons in the weight department
uhhhhh…
Another grim, cold day in this god-forsaken place. Winter only amplifies the abysmal monotony that accompanies living here. The platitude of day to day life can be extremely burdensome for the persons not yet assimilated into the typical Ohioan persona.
daytrepper, my advice to you is look for another job somewhere out of state on monster, in fact that is my advice to everyone from Ohio. Winter would be better if there were hills out there at least to ski on. Ohio is so boring! Westwood 1 you are right, there is nothing to do besides eat and drink out there – no natural beauty like PA, NY, or MD. Trust me dude don’t move there, I lived there for 5 years and it was too much, I went crazy and moved back to PA. BTW I am browns suck and PA.
To JasonPA,
Man so you say it is that bad. Damn, I heard that a certain part of Ohio had contamination of toxic waste and that was Cheshie, OH. I heard a story from real sports that the company that contaminated the town used a buyout and sold the town as part of their property. Now JasonPA where did you live in Ohio?
I was in Akron, OH. It seemed OK, that’s it OK. In Manhatten, Brooklyn, Queens, and a part of Staten Island you get some real culture and some of the chain restaurants. That is a bit more frequent in the burb (North New Jersey, Westchester County and Rockland and Fairfield County, Connecticut, and Long Island) but still you can find authentic cuisie (spelling). I don’t know about Ohio? In Cleveland it was kind of like chain restaurants, except for the Rock Bottem Brewery off of the Flats back in August of this year. Also, can anyone answer what happened to the Flats? I mean in 2000 it was alive and had bars and clubs open. I heard on a website called (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flats) that drowning deaths that made it dead. But why? I mean the clubs should have put wals there or something. It seemed nice.
I didn’t get a chance to go to the Warehouse area. I just passed by. I rode with my friend at the time and I had a drink along with my sinuis killing me at the time so I didn’t get to check out that area. Damnit. Anyway, enough of the talking I am just rumbling and rumbling
This place just seems ordinary to me. Maybe good to visit a friend but that’s it.
Again JasonPA:
Where in PA are you from? I have folks that live in Philly and even thought that’s a rough town at least there is stuff to do and you are 1hour and 45 mins south of New York.
But I have been bad places and by all means don’t go to Western New York. Particulary, Buffalo. That place sucks the big one. EVERYONE there is nothing but fat sloppy Buffalo Bills rooting loser and very biased (bigoted people) too. There are nothing but bars in downtown Buffalo that is filled with college students but that’s it. In that area if you want real nightlife, then you have to go 1 hour and 45 minuates to Toronto or stay close and waste your money on the casinos called Casion Niagara or the strip clubs (which have fine ladies from Toronto-called the Canadian Ballet). The ladies of Western New York look like mutants. All I got to say is BUFFALO SUCKS!!!!!!!
To JasonPA: I will give the rest of New York State one thing and that’s scenery and hills to ski. Outside of Buffalo has Wispering Pines and that has good ski slopes. Now for me I consider north outside Westchester County and Rockland County Upstate New York State. Nice scenery, but some crappy towns like Rochester and Syarcuse, Rust Belt towns. What more can I say. So if the rest of Ohio is like that then oh man that’s not good. And to add insult to injury #1 ranked Ohio State is playing #2 ranked Michigan in college football and it seems like it is going to be the center of the sports universe that day. Little do folks know about outside of Ohio that it may not be good as TV makes it out to be. I hope Rugters ranked #6 from New Jersey gets a shot at the National Championship whoever loses the game this weekend. And TV made Rugters right next to Manhatten when that campus is 40 minuates south of Manhatten which is exit 9 on the New Jersey Turnpike. Anyway, Nuff Said about this I don’t want to hog up the boards but just my 2 cents. Opps I meant $2.45 cents
Again I don’t want to disrespect anyone. Have a great day and again google David DeAngelo and his products if you are having lady problems. They are good. Have a great day 
I live in Pittsburgh, thank God, went to Kent near Akron for 5 years. It is ok to visit in the summer if you are lucky.
Ohio is like having Buffalo NY or Detroit MI or South Philly over the whole state. It’s nickname is North Mississippi, move to the Poconos if you want out of NY, but by God, don’t go to Jersey either.
Oh and the Cuyahoga River actually caught fire, TWICE! The impression I have gotten from Ohio is that the people there have no common sense, and they don’t want it either. After all, if they did they would leave. They love being ignorant. The people there just have a loosing attitude. I could go into great lengths trust me. Just to give you an idea my wife bought her wedding dress from a scam artist who was previously convicted and yet still in business, you order things from a store like a bed and it take twice as long as what the salesman told you and when it does come it’s not what you ordered. If you move there you have to re-take your driver’s course – the actual driving and test both! There is no EZ-Pass on any highways yet (stone-age) It’s just a very gloomy and downtrodden place and you can feel it the minute you cross the border from PA. Imagine nothing in your life ever working out, constantly having bad luck, and being stuck with a sinus infection, that is Ohio.
To JasonPA: Now is that the reason why it went dark in the Flats in Cleveland after 2000. Was it some stupid drunk launched the Cuyagoa River on fire again in 2000? If so when? In fact when I was there I remember going to a Hooters Restaurant there. And the watress was good looking and a few were fine. But, that really sucks. Also, like I said before Go Rugters beat Cincinnati and get to the ranking of #2 for the national championship and beat the #1 ranked Ohio State Buckeye’s. Also, here’s an article from that town I spoke to you about. Did you hear of Cheshire, OH. That is sad and here’s the link: http://www.forgottenoh.com/Cheshire/cheshire.html. That really is evil and sad. But hey the folks want to stay in the dark so oh well. Again I am not trying to disrespect the state but it just amazes me how people think and live in ignorant bliss.
Hello,
I’m so glad so many rude foul mouthed folks like you all are leaving!!
You should move to Flint MI or Saginaw!!
I think you all have bad attitudes which may come from within yourselves and blaming OH is your excuse.
I have met some of the type of people you talk about and most of them migrated here from West Virginia, PA and other southern coal towns. Ignorant people are everywhere!!
I traveled a lot in the early 1990’s been to Houston, Charlotte & Raleigh NC, Minneapolis, Portland Oregon, Michigan and Wisconsin. Lived in Phoenix AZ for 2 months and been through NM, and states all along the way. We vacation in Upper Michigan and while nice I wouldn’t live there. Best towns were Charlotte and Portland but even there homeless people craped on the sidewalks in a very nice neighbor hood, not seen that in OHIO!
I grew up in the nastiest northeastern most city Ashtabula Ohio, which is now the Meth capital of Ohio. I was lucky enough to go to a decent school and live in a ok neighborhood. I married a farmer and moved to Orwell south in Ashtabula Co. (near Don King’s training Camp). My nearest neighbor is across the street or 1/4 mile away and we enjoy the country life.
I still like Ohio better even though the weather gets depressing. Shopping is great, within any 30-40 miles I choose to go and cheaper cost of living for sure.
Ohio has amusement parks, too bad Sea World left, Ashtabula Co has covered bridges and tons of local museums and fairs. Rock-N-Roll Hall of Fame, caves southern Ohio, train rides Jefferson and Sugarcreek, canal boat rides Coshocton and steam boat ride to Blennerhasset Island in Ohio river. Air museum in Dayton is great as are the museums in Cleveland and Zoo too! Water parks in Sandusky, I could go on…
I do not watch sports, I’m a God fearing Christian, go to church, have an occasional alcoholic beverage, a few lbs. overweight, size 12 and just got off my Total Gym, self educated on my 4th career I will create myself and been told throughout my life I’m attractive. Most of my friends like me are well spoken, no drawl, slang or foul language. We are intelligent, polite and do not watch much TV. Our hobbies include cooking, gardening family and friends. We do Roller Hockey, Track and Band.
My husband’s family have been on this same farm 150 years and milked cows since 1890 and my family have been around Northeastern Ohio for 150 years also. We do not make Ohio suck, we make it civilized, good and make it work.
Ever notice that the worst Ohio cities are huge democrat strongholds?? Cleveland, Akron Youngstown all Democrat union type folks and run by ignorant politicians??? Connection?? I think so, Democrats make Ohio suck. The only thing I might change would be weather or live in Marietta Ohio.
Lady loves Ohio
JasonPA,
I actually am on careerbuilder as I type this, seeking employment. Something somewhat promising is in the works as of this moment. I have never been to a more gloomy town than Toledo. This place is a damn hole. Seriously, it’s like being stuck in 1971. The mentality up here is very union and blue collar. Not that there’s anything wrong with blue collar, but it’s a wierd redneck, Jeff Foxworthy bluecollar. Not the hard working, honest blue collar. Toledo is the true definition of a good ol boy town. You’d swear that 15 1/2 people lived here, and they’re all related. All they know how to do is reproduce and get fat while watching OSU and drinking. The city itself has a lot of potential, but the people keep it from progressing. The people of Toledo are very unique. They have a certain look about themselves. It’s a look of total cluelessness and laziness. I’m serious. I’m not trying to be funny, it’s true. Anyone who has ever lived in Toledo can tell you. Living in Toledo is like being Charleton Heston in that movie,”The Omega Man”. I honestly feel that I am one of the only normal people in this entire city. I have never been to Cleveland, well, not enough to get a feel for it. I drove around it and it appeared somewhat normal. I just really want to warn anyone who is considering moving to or visiting Toledo, OH. If you don’t like eating, watching OSU, getting drunk, and being alienated by a bunch of cliquey rednecks who you’d probably never talk to anyway, but they go out of their way to try to make you feel like an outsider…don’t come to Toledo, OH.
To I love Ohio,
You are right Democrats do make most areas suck, and I am glad to hear about the church thing, I agree with you. See you are the minority in Ohio being in the area for so long and all and being in the country like that. Good for you! Most people from PA are like you. Most Ohioans live in suburbs like a bunch of rats with no real reason for being there other than a job, which can be found anywhere obviously and probably better ones in a much more enjoyable part of the country. That’s all I’m saying and all the modern coveniences of NE Ohio just spawn stupidity. Cleveland is consistantly rated one of the worst cities in America, below New Orleans at one point! That’s bad any way you look at it! The whole state needs help in my opinion. Ohio was recently voted as having the worst governor in the US as well. As far as unions, they are just running themselves out of work by working for 20/hr to pull a freakin’ lever. I think it’s funny. Democrats will only lose power when they are all gone to China. The Democrats in PA are different, Casey for instance is pro-life and for the most part is not a left wing nut job. Most of the Democrats here are more centered and level headed thank God. People in Ohio just need to vote these corrupt bastards of both parties out of office, start passing issues so your schools don’t fall apart and you’ll be on the right track.
To I love Ohio,
I almost forgot, I wish more people from Ohio were like you. At least your state went the right way in the 2004 election. The frustrating thing about PA is that the state always goes (Dem./Rep.) with Philly. Yeah there is some union remnants around Pittsburgh with their last-ditch effort to hang on to the old steel town. Philly is pretty much always Democratic as are most cities, hey it’s the 5th largest city in the US after all. Not sure if you have ever been there but it is easily 4 times the size of Pitts. or Cleveland. Someone early compared Cleveland to Philly in size and culture, I had to laugh. If you look at the 2004 election results by county most of western Ohio is nearly red and if you look at PA there is a big wide swatch or red going right through the middle. Really only Philly, Pitts., and maybe Erie are bluish. The rest of the state is as red as the south. PA really isn’t a very liberal state at all. I think Ohio is more liberal than meets the eye and that is another problem I have with Ohio and that’s what scares me. Like I said earlier, Ohios Democrats seem to be whack jobs whereas ours are more in the center. Later.
To Jerold,
You might also try a recruiter, that’s how I escaped after college.
Later.
On my trip there in Ohio, there seemed to be churches. But around the exit of the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, OH I noticed a big scoreboard. It was a church like one of the Evangilical(excuse the spelling) churches. And it had a scoreboard. Also goign back to my friends apartment complex and there was another church. I was like is that how Ohio is a big Evangilical place. I mean I believe in GOD. But, this is overwelming and a way to control people. Akron-Canton area only seems OK but it seems too religious and dull. What is anyone’s take on it?
GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heh, yeah, GO BLUE!!
I have heard that damn Ohio song so many times today on the radio I could scream!!!
Not to turn this into a sports chat, but I think I need #1 Ohio State to win because then Rugters which is #6 will have a shot at moving up. Barring that #5 Notre Dame, #4Florida, and #3 USC all lose. So, sadly enough I need Ohio State to win so Rugters can have a chance. Unless you guys are Michigan Fans, I have to say the Buckeye’s have to win. Becuase if Michigan wins then it will be Ohio State ranked #2 in the BCS polls. Tough call. All I can say is last night I went to a club Mansion formerly the Limelight and it was great. Nuff Said. I danced with the ladies and got a number. What more can I say. Well enough of the bragging and lets just get back to the subject and that subject is there is more life out there. Just look at NYC and the nightlife.
To the lady of Ohio, that is great to here that. My friend lives in Akron and works for Univ of Akron. He is orginally from the Brooklyn and we were classmates at SUNY Buffalo. He wanted the change of pace so he moved out there. So, if you find the best of it and you are satisfied in life and are able to surround yourself with good people then you can be in a great state of mind. Right now I am still young and I like the burbs and the rest of the NYC tri state area.
I read on here that Ohio was 11th in the nation for taxes…WRONG! We are number 3 for highest taxes in the nation. I am sure the new Governor will fix that though.
We will lead the nation soon though.
Number one in jobs lost.
Number one in taxes.
Number one in lowest housing appreciation.
Number one in crime.
This state sucks. I also traveled to Rochester, MN, Lacrosse, WI, and Pittsburgh, PA. Those areas suck too. The entire midwest sucks but Ohio leads them.
Oh yeah, I went 5 days straight without seeing the sun. How can that happen?
Hello all,
Well, this is one of my many entries. I must express first of all that I hate that Ohio State won yesterday, because tomorrow at work those rednecks will go on and on about it. I’m not a Michigan fan, but they will come up to you and taunt you with their victory as if you care. EVEN IF YOU DON’T. I guess ALL of Ohio is like everyone says it is. I met someone from Cincy yesterday, and I must say that is was not too much different than meeting a Toledoan. That’s sad when you consider the fact that Toledoans are probably the most one-dimensional, narrow minded, redneck people you’ll ever meet. He just looked at me and said,”OSU and Jack Daniel’s…boy it don’t git no better than this shit, hehe!” I’m not joking. And that was the depth of our conversation. I’ve noticed that intelligent conversation with a Toledoan is almost impossible. Whenever I’m at work, I tend to talk to some of my co-workers about socially conscious issues, only to be met with an ignorant look and a rude change of subject to Libbey High School’s football game. I really don’t know what the deal is with the people up here. I can recall one day when I was discussing with another person(who isn’t from Ohio either) the Hurricane Katrina issue. A girl from Toledo was sitting across from us, and for no reason she moved over to another table full of Toledoans. I heard her say,”I’m coming over here where ya’ll ain’t talking about nuthin.” I’m not joking. I think that is scary, when you consider that fact that she is only 19. That just goes to show just how small minded Toledoans are. Also, how willfully ignorant they will remain with that mentality. I can’t wait to leave. Oh yeah, I got an offer from Edward Jones. Keeping my fingers crossed. Good luck to all.
To Jerold: Again, not to turn this into a real sports chat, but, Earlier on Saturday I was hoping Ohio State would win becuase of the BCS and Rutgers being #6 in the BCS would maybe move them closer in the rankings to that National Championship Game. But that turned in the state of Ohio just a few hundred miles south of Colombus in Cincinnati when Cincinnati beat Rutgers 30-11. So, now I am like oh well, what else is new. Can’t win them all
Since, the New York City area and the radio stations doesn’t talk about College Football that much. BTW Rugters is a New Jersey school that is like 40 miles from Midtown Manhatten, and is the closest school to college Div 1 A school. I couldn’t New York is really a pro sports, cultural town. Now don’t get me wrong there are ignorant biased people here too in the Big Apple (just like Lady of Ohio pointed out-ignorant small minded people are everywhere) even though it is a cosmopolition, but at least you can escape it here much better. YOu can talk about sports, social issues, and have a bit of a better time getting into better social circles. Problem with NYC area is that it is expensive and competetive. And if you are still single Jerold and the ladies are giving you trouble, google David DeAngelo and he can help. I am not taunting you. Also to all, I am not trying to disrespect any of you who post or change this into an all sports topic. I am just putting in my 2 cents. Best of luck to all.
One last thing, the phrase “I couldn’t “, I was trying to make a point about ESPN and the media making it out to be a interesting place. What I meant to say was “I couldn’t believe when ESPN did the Rugters vs. Louisville game they made the Rugters campus seem like it was around Union Square West 14th Street in Manhatten when it is only 40 miles away.” That was what I was trying to say from that phrase “I couldn’t” from the last post.
Westwood 1,
Thanks for the advice. I’ve been to NYC. I must say that it’s alright, but I don’t think I would want to live there. Like you said, way too expensive. I agree with you and Lady of Ohio, small mindedness is everywhere. Trust me I know, I lived in LA for 5 years. The thing is, even in a purgatory like Los Angeles, you could still strike up good, half way intelligent conversation with one of them. Plus, you didn’t have to be a good ol boy to get to know people around there. I don’t know if you’ve ever been to Toledo or not, but that seems to be the culture around here. It’s a very blue collar, rustbelt mentality up here. I think a lot of it is because of the crippled job economy and depressing weather, I don’t know. You can almost directly associate the economy in Toledo to that of Detroit. I’m sorry about your Scarlet Knights. I know that this is one of their better seasons, so at least you can be happy about that. They were fun to watch this year. I’m single, and not looking for anyone right now. I’m just living the single life and loving it. Detroit does have a pretty vibrant nightlife(Depending on where you go there.) Thanks for the advice though, no offense taken. Better luck next year with Rutgers.
To Jerold: To respond to your last post. I have been in a town similar to the one you described. I went to school in Buffalo, NY. And the school was Univ at Buffalo or know as SUNY Buffalo. Well, let me tell you that town is exactly what you described. Except, their sports outlet isn’t a college team. It is a pro team like the Buffalo Bills. Oh god, if you can avoid Buffalo and the rest of Western New York State. That area sucks. That is the armpit of the world. Tackey homes, fat ugly ladies, mean spirted people, stupid cliques “good ol boy” syndrome. The burbs aren’t much better either like Cheektowaga, Kemmore, Tonawanda, Lancaster, Hamburg, West Senca, Clarence all sucks. Even a few miles north in Niagara Falls, NY and that area of Wheatfield, and North Tonawanda all sucks too. Listen, I posted before on post #164 and I describe that the only other thing to do is to go to Canada and check out either Toronto which is 1 hour and 20 mins away or go across the river to the Canadian Ballet in Niagara Falls or Fort Erie, But if not then the only thing to do is go to downtown Chippawa street and drink your guts out with college dudes or go on Main street at UB’s south campus and drink with college dudes too. And even that gets old. The folks are narrowminded and biased people too. So, I have been to an old rust belt town and ,my advise is if you want to avoid misary don’t go to Buffalo, A.K.A. Barfalo, A.K.A. Pukealo becuase it SUCKS THE BIG ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. Avoid Rochester, NY, Syarcuse, NY, and Albany, NY (unless you are a state employee under Eliot Spitzer)
Ok enough of the banter and I hope you had a great Thanksgiving and didn’t get hounded about college football or the pros because both games were boring. Well have a nice day.
Westwood 1,
Hey, hope your turkeyday was a great one. I’ve never been to Buffalo, or anywhere in western NY State for that matter. I have a buddy at my job who is originally from Buffalo. He describes it pretty much as you did. Very much like Toledo, except Buffalo might have a little more going for it. The only thing that Toledo has going for it is a bunch of restaurants and churches. They pride themselves on being the “City With the Most Restaurants Per Capita”. Wow!!! Maybe that’s why it’s on the “America’s Fattest Cities” list. I think that Ohio is one of the most supersized states in the union. I don’t know. I think that you can relate to a lot of what I am talking about, as far as Toledo. 9 more months and I’m leaving. I just said screw it and I’m gonna use my G.I. Bill to go back to school. I want to move back to Chicago, or maybe…Ann Arbor, MI. It’s alright up there. The only thing is that it’s dangerously close to Detroit and Toledo. It has it’s own vibe, though. Unlike Toledo. Detroit is okay, it’s just dead as far as the job market. That’s the only thing that kills the D for me. It’s slowly trying to come back. Toledo, on the other hand, continues it’s pursuit to live permanantly in 1972. Maybe this town needs a new mayor. Oh well, good luck to all trying to leave the Big, Dead, O.
GO GATORS!
To Jerold: Again I am not trying to make it which towns suck the worse but when I was in Buffalo, NY I thought that town sucks. Now you say it has more going on. Are you saying like three malls. The one in the city is just a trashy mall Main Place Mall in downtown Buffalo. The OK mall is the Blvd Mall in Amherst. Or the nice mall called Walden Galleria in Cheektowaga. When I attended UB and didn’t have a car the folks at school would cheer to go to the mall and sound enthused. Me I am like “So f&cking what”.
Because in the New York area and the town I live in Westchester County there are two malls that will out do those malls in a heartbeat. One is the Westchester Mall and the Galleria Mall. Then over across the river in Rockland County we have the Palasades Mall, In New Jersey in Parmus called the Garden State Plaza and the Parmus Mall (a small one level mall which is the size of the Blvd Mall in Amherst). We can shop in Manhatten 5th avenue and the 50’s, Herald Square on East 34th and 6th Ave Manhatten Mall, downtown SoHo in Lower Manhatten, Queens Mall, Roosevelt Field Mall in Garden City, Long Island, NY. Or the Stamford Mall in Stamford, CT Connecticut. Plus 20 miles east is the mall in Trumbul Mall in Trumbul, CT And you have more malls in North Jersey as well.
So to me Buffalo sucked the big one. One more thing I wanted to mention is that when you don’t want to go drinking at the same bars, you go across the river to the Canadian Ballet. What I meant is that there are strip joints over in Fort Erie, Ontario, Canada and Niagara Falls, Canada. I mean it is good and the folks across the river and Niagara Falls in Canada seem a bit more open minded. However if you just go to those places I mentioned you waste money. And 1 hour and 20 minuates away is Toronto where that town has it going on. But if it’s cold as f#@k with snow down on the ground then do you really want to battle the snow just to go up there on a winter weekend night. Plus do you really want to battle Canadian and U.S. Customs to cross everytime (particulary after 9/11with more intrrogations just to have a good time). I mean it is a convience to a certain extent but you want to me near it all. That is why I am still in the NYC area. I like it being 30 minuates away from Manhatten or I can stay in Westchester and do stuff as well with the burbs.
Again, I am not trying to have a pissing contest on which city is the worst but that was my experience in Westen New York. So to all the ignorant Western New Yorkers.
F#ck Buffalo and the Rest of you Western New Yorkers (except your friend of course and a couple of open minded friends that were cool back at UB)
Hey Westwood,
It sounds like Buffalo is probably as bad as T-Town. I’m not gonna argue that, because like you said…I’m not trying to make this whose town is worse. I just wanted to let you know how much Toledo needs improvement. I’m set to move out of here in the summer, so that is a breath of fresh air. I don’t really know why I came here. At least I got to see Detroit. It’s okay. It’s getting better every month it seems like. There are tons of things to get into up there. I am only 40 minutes away from it, so I spend a lot of time in Detroit and Ann Arbor(which is only 35 minutes away.) Ohio just seems a bit too…redneck. Don’t get me wrong, I have a friend in Cleveland who is pretty cool, but other than that…I don’t know. It’s hard to meet someone here who means you good. It seems like Toledoans meet you with the intention of doing you wrong. If you don’t like OSU, drinking, and morbitly obese women, then you are considered an outcast here. There are actually a LOT of people here who have NEVER been to Detroit or Cleveland. I’m serious. Detroit is only 40 minutes away(50 on a bad day) and Cleveland is an hour and a half away. Yet and still, Toledoans make it a point not to travel outside of Toledo. You see, Toledo is like a big bubble. No one ever leaves this bubble, and no one can come in except the ones already in it. That’s Toledo. They really have no idea what sits outside of Toledo. It’s sad when you consider the fact that Toledo is centrally located to a lot of bigger, more cultured cities. At least people in Buffalo will travel outside of it, well…that’s what it sounds like. I like Detroit a lot. It’s run down and the job market is very crippled…but it’s like they are trying to get it going in the right direction. Plus, there is ALWAYS something to do there. The best thing is that you are right next to Canada. I actually considered moving there at one point. I liked the places I saw near Wayne State University, and the cost of living is very reasonable. It’s definately a young person’s town. Toledo is a suicide-inducing nightmare. Oh well, I have only a little while left. Go Gators, Buckeyes Suck.
I have been living in Dayton, Ohio for over a year now, having moved here from the Niagara area of Ontario, Canada. My husband is in the Air Force and is situated at Wright-Patt. While I like Ohio okay, I want to tell you guys my first impressions of it: the people seemed overweight, they smoke like chimneys and are missing a whole lot of teeth! Yikes!
And I was surprised at the “southern drawl” to their accents. I figured we weren’t far enough south to hear much in the way of a drawl. On the plus side, most people have been quite friendly to us.
The people I’ve become friends with are all from somewhere else (California, Texas, W. Virginia, Virginia etc.) being military people.
I’m kind of glad we will only be here for another 3 years or so then perhaps Boston as our next base.
If I was a younger woman I think I would go crazy here! Not a lot to do. Luckily I’m older now and not as into going out to bars or clubs, cuz I think most of them really suck here. Very scary! Last night a group of us girl-friends (3 pregnant and 2 breastfeeding) went to a really ghetto Mexican restaurant and found 2 hairs on the table and one on the food! Then some drunk guy came over to our table with tattoos on his neck and tried to pick one of us up, I think. A group of women at the bar were hammered and talking super loud about going to jail or something. Yikes! But there must be some cute little towns in Ohio? Like Yellow Springs…even if it is very hippy-ish!
Adie ,
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That’s because they’re all Alien escapees from Hanger 13. They encourage their human hosts to overeat so they have enough space to work the controls in there.
Stay for his tour of duty then leave before you become one of the pod people. Boston’s a great choice. It’s got Boston Common, Fenway park, the best private university on the planet, Nobel price winners, billionaires, a harbor, great public transit. I can go on and on.
Hello All,
I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. May 2007 bring us hope, prosperity, and relocation.
Peace and Love
Merry X-mas to all you smart ambitious people escaping the event horizon of this midwestern black hole.
instead of ingnorantly bashing ohio, why don’t you take a look at what it has to offer. I am from cleveland, and I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. Great people, no we’re not hillbillys, but we get along with them. in fact we get along with everyone that is why it is the more diverse city america. Ohio has everything, great city folk, kind country folk, loyal and welcoming people everywhere, and tons of attractions and natural beauty. But it is far more easier to judge it while driving through on the turnpike, and moving here for one month and deciding it sucks, right?
Jon Z,
Most of the Ohio bashing going on here is from long-time residents, whom are hardly ignorant or have just seen it from the turnpike.
I myself cannot wait to get out of here, as I have been here 25 years. Ohio absolutely does not have everything, at least for me. The job market is terrible, outdoors activities are non existent, and all anyone cares about is drinking and sports bars, and shopping. I could go on and on. There are fun things to do here, but they are several hours drive away. What would be a simple day trip or weekend outing in the right places turns into an overly expensive 4 day pain in the butt in Ohio. It usually turns out to be cheaper to fly to a real place like Miami or LA.
I am going to a real place, with real diversity, good economy, and great outdoors scene. Ohio sucks.
COME ONE, COME ALL!!! To the NYE HODOWN. Jan. 31, 2006 in Toleda, Ohia!!! YEEEEHAAAWWWW!!!!
No really, though. Toledo sucks.
Jon Z,
Ohio has spawned another antibody. This time from the great city of Cleve-land – the poorest big city in the United States according to the Federal government.
http://www.clevelandfed.org/research/Regional/Features/2006/september/poverty.cfm
If it makes you feel better, I think Buffalo,NY sucks a bigger nastier enchilada than Cleveland but that’s just a personal bias. The facts speak for themselves.
Read Edgewater03 for a better rebuttal of this blog.. and why don’t you take a trip to Chicago or New York for your diversity fix? They beat the crap out of Cleve-land.
To earthpearl: As you know I went to school in Buffalo at SUNY Buffalo and all I can tell you is what I have expressed above. BUFFALO SUCKS AND THERE ARE NOTHING BUT NASTY BIASED SCUMBAGS THERE!!!!! But again, I am not trying to make this into a pissing contest.
To Jon Z: Learn to travel and stay in cosmopolitions for 3 months maybe you can learn something.
To Jerold: You had the funnest quote of this month. Keep it up as you disway folks from coming to that town. Or you try to make people change their narrowminded attitude. BTW I am not trying to make it more of a pissing contest on which town is the worst between cities in Ohio vs cities of central and western New York State.
QUESTION: why is it that so many natives of the buckeye state have either bipolar or some other mental ailment? Is there something in the genes, I hope it’s not in the water….haha! GO GATORS! BEAT the useless nuts!
First off, I am a native of Texas, not Ohio and in the three short years I have lived her, I have noticed the real mistake I made of moving here. The only thing good that happened was I found my wife here. So we are out of here and she is glad. She has lived here her whole life and she pointed out things that sucked to me I never noticed before.
Not to say Texas or anywhere else is some paradise. I just get sick of people bitching about how hot it is in the summer and I came from a place with regular 110 degree days. People cannot drive for squat here and people are just rude and nasty.
Everyone is poor as well. I do slightly better than the average bear but the only real white collar people in Ohio are lawyers, doctors, politicians, and middle managers. Everyone else is poor. Pick any street in Dayton or Cincinnati and you’ll find at least five houses for sale, two of which are foreclosures.
The only thing good about Cincinnati is Northern Kentucky, which everyone in city hall hates with a passion.
I plan to be out of this state in the next two months, heading back south. All I can say is thanks for the wife, my kid on the way, and state of Ohio kiss my Texan ass and for those in a certain insurance company in Fairfield, OH, thanks for dragging me up here and firing me five months later. I’ll be back some day to pay you bastard sons of bitches back in kind.
I go to the College of Wooster. At first, I was excited to get out of Maryland, the state I have been in for most of my life. However, upon arriving, I realized one thing….Ohio blows. I really appreciate being able to go to college, but I am planning on transferring to a better school. Wooster doesn’t give a FUCK about its students unless you’re in the top 10 percent, which I am just on the outside of. (Biochem major, tough classes, don’t have a 4.0..) So, to anyone looking at colleges….
DO NOT GO TO WOOSTER. IT BLOWS. THERE ARE A FEW GOOD PROFESSORS, BUT NOTHING THAT YOU WON’T FIND ANYWHERE ELSE.
kbam.. this explains the surprising number of bi-polar depressed people in the buckeye state.
“Bipolar people Innactive”
filed under Bipolar Disorder Symptoms & Diagnosis
McCormick and Frey
Source: University of Indiana
…The study participants were surprisingly inactive. Inactivity is important to note, Frey said, because physical activity is considered a major health indicator for chronic diseases. ..
So you see if you were in New York and had to run to catch a subway train you would be better off than driving a Hummer in Ohio.
I think that the depression and bipolar behavior comes from inbreeding. Seriously, it seems like inbreeding went on back in the early 20th Century when you had a lot of Appalachian Americans from West Virginia migrate to the state for work. How else do you explain a town with a population of greater than 200,000 people who ALL know each other?(Toledo).
Well it could just be something in the genepool of the Scotch/Irish too. I know that the hillbilly women I know get all cranky and stuck on the couch/cigarette/cable TV routine when winter hits. I don’t hang out with their boyfriends/husbands so can’t tell you much about the men …but then I digress from my main point.
What’s so bad about everybody knowing everybody? It doesn’t mean they’re schtuppin each others moms and sisters does it? (or does it?)
IMHO the small town mentality isn’t all bad. I mean, an ideal life is one where you have some interaction with your neighbors; otherwise life is like being locked in solitary. However, if they’re all like “Larry the Cable Guy” then maybe not.
Are we talking the kind of neighbors who sit on the porch spitting tobacco and chucking beer cans while complaining the SSI check is late?.. or is it more the pickup truck, fishing boat football fan types. What are we talkin here? Is this a po’white trash town or one with upwardly mobile hicks like Columbus, Ohio?(we have both but they’re all basically hicks from the Tri-State )
I thought Toledo had some Lebanese and Italians to make it cool and ethnic but maybe someone burned a cross in their yard. I’m just very curious what’s going on up there.
Earlthepearl,
I’m not knocking neighborhood unity at all. I would love to live in a world where you could talk with your fellow man in a friendly manner. I have a problem with the Toledo version of “neighborly love”. You see, Toledo is like this…
It’s a very good sized town with a lot of potential. You can see the potential just from the skyline and the way the city sits. It could be a really beautiful place, seriously. That is, if it were ran by a government with a sense of upward mobility. The powers that be of Toledo are just determined to keep the city in 1977. It’s very union-oriented, blue collar, and afraid of change. It’s almost a sort of “If it ain’t white, it ain’t right” kind of mentality up here. To give you a picture of why culture and Toledo don’t belong in the same sentence, chew on this…
A lot of new, cultural businesses try to move into downtown Toledo each fiscal quarter. The reason why it is so hard to do so is because Toledo has more historic buildings in it’s downtown area than any other metropolitan area in the U.S. Some acalade, huh? Historic in this case, though, means old, decaying, empty, blighted, condemned by any other city’s standards(including Detroit’s). The Historic Committee of Toledo are very strict about who they let in, and what they will let them do. Compuware, Google, Jeep, and Starbucks are just a few of the calibur of companies that were detoured from Toledo due to this fact. The only ounce of culture that Toledo does have is FifthThird Field, a picturesque minor league baseball stadium that has really raised the bar and change the face of minor league parks. It has been rated the best ballpark in the minors, and I will agree. I very much enjoy watching games at the ballpark. I will never take that away from Toledo. Also, the Toledo Art Museum is not to be missed. Very upscale, unique experience. I would recommend a stop there as well. Other than that, it’s all sports bars, OSU fans, pickup trucks, confederate flags, trailer parks, fat women, gang bangers, potholes, and a big ball of unemployment. As far as ethnic culture…Blacks, Whites, Tex-Mex, and a Polish community.
In a nutshell…that’s Toledo.
Hope it was helpful.
To Jerold: I have a question, after the Bucky Buck Toothed Buckeyes got their asses whoped in the National Championship Game, How did Toledo react? I bet there was a riot afterwords or a bit of like a funeral service becuase the Buckey Buckeyes lost. They were probably crying like little bitches like the narrowminded losers do when they suck
FYI I have been to Univ of Florida when I did my internship at the Kennedy Space Center and man that was a site to see. NOt just the campus buildings but the drop down fine ass ladies. They were asian, black, white goddess. Oh man, I felt I was in heaven. Unfortunatlly I didn’t have game back then. Now I do and I wish I could be down there now. But I have never been to OSU and I don’t think I would want to either.
But, man I just prey you get out of that hell hole. That area just seems gross and nasty. Actually, the folks are one thing to me and they are just SLOBS!!!!!!! A SLOB!!!!!!! THEY ARE NOTHING BUT SLOBS!!!!!
I would say this about the people in Buffalo and the rest of the Western New Yorkers. Nothing but a bunch of SLOBS!!!!!! FUCK THOSE Sloppy Bastards!!!!!!!!!
Now the real culture is in the area where I live is the NYC and the Tri-State Area which also includes Westchester, Rockland, Long Island, North New Jersey, and Fairfield County Connicuticut. YOu have fine Latinas (Puerto Ricians, Domicians, Some South Americans, Asians, Black Carribians, Black Americans, Fine White Ladies like Italians, some Polish, Irish, Greek, and the rest of the flavors. Also, don’t sleep on Philadelphia even though some parts are a rough city, that town is still fun. DC is good to along with Boston. So the east coast is the spot but some if it is pricy like NYC or DC but the rest like Philly and Baltimore may be the spot. But I would take that and Florida and U of F grad school over Ohio State and the Bucky Bafoons any day.
Nuff Said.
To Earthepearl: I was just wondering how was the part of Ohio when the Bucky the Unlucky Eye’s did when they got their asses whiped by Florida. Did they riot, or did they act like it was a funeral or did they just get pissed and take it out on people that didn’t care about OSU? I’m just wondering becuase since they love their OSU football I was glad that Florida Won!!!!! The reason why is becuase they were disrespected in the media and also becuase University of Florida (from my previous post) has fine looking ladies there. In fact central and south florida has fine ladies. But you need game. And if you want to improve yourgame then you can Google David DeAngelo. His products are good for everyone on this board. And again don’t take advise from the SLOBS of OHIO or Western New York on the dating game. And say to the folks of OHIO that they are a bunch of slobs and the Buckeyes choked and got too stuffed on the 50 day layoff at Long Horn and Applebees and Buffalo Wild Wings while sailing at the Flats in C-Town
One last thing to all you bumble farts in Ohio. On the sports talk radio station in New York called WFAN in the show Mike (Mike Francessia) and the Maddog (a.k.a. Chris Russo), they just spilled the beans about your team ‘THE Ohio State’ Bucky the Unlucky Eye’s. Your offensive lineman gained 50 pounds during the 50 day layoff between the Michigan game and the National Championship Game Florida. My guess is he went back to his Ohio lifestyle of being a fat sack of crap while farting in his home barn there
Or he went to Longhorn, Buffalo Wild Wings, Applebee’s, the Waffle House, and Chillis along with White Castle, Hardees, and McDonalds while watching the movie Super Size Me 
Then your star wide revciver Tom Ginn decided to sit the rest of the game due to an ankle sprain and to not mess up his NFL Draft status(or his so called ticket to the real world) “REAL WORLD”. It just goes to show you that your GODS don’t care so why should you farts care too. And I don’t blame Tom Ginn for not wanting to mess it up becuase if he is wise he better take advantage of going to New York, or Philly or San Francisco instead of wasting time in Bumblef^ck Ohio. So there goes your perfect narrowminded little world you SLOPPY NARROWMINDED OHIO PEOPLE!!!!!!!!! SPORTS ISN’T THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!!!!!!!! GET A REAL LIFE BUMBLEF#CKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*This is not intended for the folks that are open minded in Ohio and that would include Earlthepearl and Jerod and the others on the form from Ohio who either are trying to leave or are open minded people. So if I offended anyone here that is open minded and is from Ohio then I am sorry. This message is towards the ignorant and stupid people that refuse to change and make others misrable that happen to be open minded.
lol Westwood, couldnt have said it better…. It was insane how sad and depressed people were just after the Bucks had their asses handed to them.
I could care less about it, but like you say, its such a big thing here that its impossible to avoid it. It is also impossible to carry an intelligent conversation on with most here.
OHIO SUCKS!!
You, on wikipedia there was once a war between Michigan and Ohio for the ownership of Toledo. Guess who lost.
http://www.cityculture.org/city.php?id=3063&page=2
I don’t know if that link will work, but I stumbled upon it during one of my “Ohio Sucks” searches on the net. Just go to cityculture.com and search for Toledo, Ohio. The reviews are all true. They’ll give you an idea of how life in the broken glass city.
Ohio sucks? LOL I have lived in 8 states in 20 yrs and find that a place is as good as you make it…. I also understand that if you were born and rasied in this backwards W loving state, then I guess it makes sense to hate yourself and where you come from…
BTW, being from New York and having lived in NYC for 8 years while in grad school and working on wall $treet, I came to figure out that NYC sucks also… but then again, by the looks of the comments and the locations being named in these rants, I bet that none of you have ever lived in any of these other “wonderful” places either… ex (NYC, Washington DC, Atlanta, Charlotte, Minneapolis)
Signed,
Loving the good life in a $1MM golf course home here in CBUS
(but having the ability to leave when the mode strikes!)
Is Tartan fields still selling at what it was in ‘04? Not so sure I’d be bragging about that “New Yorker”.
To Jerold,
Ok, Jerold I get the picture about Toledo. We have the opposite problem in Columbus. We just knock shit down here and nobody complains.
Our finest hour was when we knocked down our train station . It was built by Daniel H. Burnham who was one of the premier American architects. It didn’t stop them though. In 1976 the shithead-powers-that-be tore it down the night before preservationists could file a restraining order. I’m sure they were very proud of themselves.
The demolition continued until a restraining order was put through. Only 1 arch was saved. They stuck it in our “Arena district” – sort of a tombstone.
Before:
http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~cookt/images/history/hs0009.jpg
After: “Brilliant!
http://shop.dispatch.com/Products/PhotoShop/medium/AL03782_400.jpg
…and 50 years later we put up a fake train station facade where the real one used to be. Now you can’t get a train unless you drive to Cleveland. I call that progress!
Earlthepearl,
Wow, I didn’t know that about Columbus. I never really been there, either. I’m somewhat afraid to venture deeper into the state because I hear that it is a big speed trap. Not to mention, the people are just plain scary. I thought that Columbus would have a better sense of upward mobility than that. If you ask the average Toledoan about Columbus, they describe it as the “Mecca of Ohio”. I wouldn’t doubt that it is, I mean…what other city in Ohio is prospering as well as Columbus? Cleveland is pegged the “Poorest City in the U.S.”, Cincinnati is pretty much Kentucky North, Youngstown is an old steel town that is really struggling, and if you wipe your a$$ with the northwest part of an Ohio map you’ll have Toledo…I guess Columbus is the lesser evil of the Ohio spawn. Well, thanks for the insight on Columbus. That officially kills Ohio for me.
Earlthepearl and Jerold:
How was your area after the unluckey buckys lost in the National Championship game against Florida. Are they still moping and crying over it like a funeral or what
Just curious.
Hell, I don’t know. I’m not a Buckeye fan. They just throw their trash all over the place and make it hard to park. F’ckin loud obnoxious tourists IMHO.
Hey Westwood,
Toledo was pretty down-hearted about the loss. You’d have thought that time had went back to the day that John Lennon died. (God rest his soul)
The funny part was on the Sunday following the defeat. The pastor at my church, to add insult to Buckeye injury, wore a Florida sweater, Florida had, and got on the stage after his sermon and danced and did the “Gator Chomp”. And that’s not even the funny part. The funny part was when the audience LITERALLY got angry at him, some even cried. TRUE STORY!!!
Hey Westwood,
Toledo was pretty down-hearted about the loss. You’d have thought that time had went back to the day that John Lennon died. (God rest his soul)
The funny part was on the Sunday following the defeat. The pastor at my church, to add insult to Buckeye injury, wore a Florida sweater, Florida hat, and got on the stage after his sermon and danced and did the “Gator Chomp”. And that’s not even the funny part. The funny part was when the audience LITERALLY got angry at him, some even cried. TRUE STORY!!!
Hey, I googled “Ohio Sucks” and guess what, you have the number one result. Good Job. Of course, I was sulking, googled that term and proceeded to read all of these posts.
I am from Ohio, born in Cleveland, raised in Brunswick and Mansfield. I moved from Ohio when I was 28. I graduated from Franklin U. in Columbus. Owned a business in Ohio. My family still lives there. And I could not agree more, Ohio does suck.
For all of the reason mentioned above, Ohio sucks. Anyone who defends Ohio is obviously jealous or ignorant. I grew up a lifelong Browns fan, and I have renounced my love for the team, as well as the Indians. My experience in Columbus is that it is full of either rednecks or mid-western snobs, you know, the kind that move in to Columbus from some small hick town in the midwest and once they get to Columbus they feel they are “cultured” and “urban,” but as we all know here Columbus is a cow town, with nothing but strip malls and a dead city. The arts in Columbus are half assed at best, as Clevelands arts of national caliber and one of the only things going for this old city.
Most people live in Ohio because their parents moved there, or their grandparents moved there and they have been too unimaginative to move away. Most of my friends that live there have painfully lame jobs and there is little opportunity for them. The housing market sucks because frankly, no on wants to live there. Cheap houses = No Jobs
I too feel the people in Ohio are purely negative, unsuccessful, ignorant and uneducated. I think most people there have this sinicle white christian attitude toward the world. I would tell anyone thinking of moving there, that unless you have an excellent, and I mean very good job lined up before you go, defintely stear clear of Ohio. Once I got my degree, I moved to NYC and began working in a great job. My life has never been better since I left Ohio three years ago. I think I will avoid ever going back.
You guys, man it’s so funny I used to really hate Ohio. I moved here from coastal n.j. where i was a freaking beach lifeguard and college student when I left. I hated it here so bad when i first got here. Like, really hated it. Anyway after a few years of misery and comparing things to how they were in nj..and a few other east coast beach towns where i lived, I began to realize that all the stuff i missed was gone anyway…examples..cool friends?..all married or addicted to drugs or just plane turned into assholes i wouldnt hang out with anyway..the beach? cool as fuck but i have other hobbies now…NYC ? over priced and full of fucking pansies who think 9-11 was their OWN personal fucking tragedy and will tell you how sad they were whenever they are looking for a tip. before you call me a pussy i was station at coast guard station nyc in staten island up until 2-01 so i lost a few firefighter friends in the tragedy. As for these people who tell you that nyc is full of fucking jobs they are full of shit. It is the MOST over saturated job market on the east coast and you are lucky if you can find a job selling shit on the street. As for the other places that people have said are so fucking “awesome” …yea really? do you live there? and if you do and its so fucking greast why are you on the internet googling “ohio sucks” ill tell you why its because you are a fucking pussy with no friends in your “new great town”. Its your attitude that determines how things are going to go for you wherever you are. I have a great fiance, a decent job, a couple good friends (thats all you need) I have a brand new 2007 jeep wrangler plus my old truck , my fiance has a brand new car and we are looking at buying a farm with 15 acres. So go you fucking pussies, go to all these expensive towns and take your gay “everyone owes me something” attitudes with you. OH yea and dont forget mommy and daddies check book to finace your pathetic attempt at higher education. fags.
Gosh Steve. You really love Ohio don’t you? We better make way for big bad old Steve’O. He might run us over with his big angry 07 Jeep. You sound an awful lot like the last loser from NYC who bragged about his 1MM golf condo on here.
Oh and by the way I got my degree from OSU over a decade ago with my own g’damn money so don’t be talking about higher education to me you freakin moron.
If you love it so much then stay but don’t tell me where i’m supposed to live.
Steve Quotes;
“Anyway after a few years of misery and comparing things to how they were in nj” hahahah jesus stop it man, this is too funny, do you have any more new jersey home sickness you can talk about, the office isnt on for another 24hrs.
“before you call me a pussy i was station at coast guard station nyc in staten island” steve, you are a pussy, you were in the coast guard.
“Its your attitude that determines how things are going to go for you wherever you are” this should be the Ohio quote, I heard this from a lot of people in Ohio. Steve, anyone with the least bit of common sense knows this is complete shit.
“and if you do and its so fucking greast why are you on the internet googling “ohio sucks”” its actually fun to read about other peoples bad experiences in the buckeye state with steve. Oh, and why are you on here doush bag?
jeesh, I guess I could say that only doush bags like yourself actually move to ohio for work, and reallly, any doush can have two car payments and a mortgage, especially in Ohio where you dont really need much to get approved for a high interest loan because ohio ranks near the bottom as the least financialy fit state. Oh yeah, the coast guard thing, you rode around the bay in an inflatable raft and washed boats for two years, whoa, your a real hero now right! did you get a swimming merit badge for that too buddy?
again, to clearly point out, doush bags like this like Ohio and move there, all the more reason why Ohio sucks and the real estate is cheap. This guy is clearly a retard and one your typical neighbors in ohio. I paid for college out of my own pocket, and nyc is a great city with great people, and yes, 9/11 hit this city the worst so please forgive us as we lay all that guilt on you. At least I am not stuck in Ohio where doush bags like steve fart around and can feel all proud about their brand new trucks that the bank owns.
To Chris:
That’s right you endorse NYC area where I live. I am from Westchster County and there it is nice and cultured as well. And the great thing is that I can go to Manhatten and enjoy the day and nightlife there as well. Now Chris you should call that Steve and New Yorker (not a buckey fan) but a buckey c#ck sucker traitors and newly bumble fu&ks. Anyway, I visited Akron, OH this past summer and I visited Canton for the Pro Football Hall of fame induction cerimonies and Harry Carson #53 of the Giants was inducted. But after that weekend I was just amazed at the amount of restaurants they have there in Ohio. I was also amazed of just how dead it was too, and a bit dissapointed about The Flats in C-Town. And after reading this and reviewing my trip to Akron, OH I said I can’t do this. Too stale and narrowminded and dead for me. I need to seek the fine ladies, culture, and other stuff on the east coast. Particulary in the New York Tri-State Area. Home of my Mets(lost in the NLCS), Giants (Eliminated in the wild card game), Knicks (not doing great), and Rangers (doing OK), but not obsessed with it. I have other things to do like the ladies, restaurants, goign to art shows, nightclubs with young professionals, maybe concerts on the lawn in Central Park where more nice looking ladies are. Only downside is it’s expensive, but you get a lot of life there. Now with Steve’s comments of “Its your attitude that determines how things are going to go for you wherever you are” only applies to areas with CULTURE AND LIFE AND INTELLENGENT PEOPLE AND A GREAT ECONOMY!!!!! It does not carry weight in Ohio where the oppertunities aren’t good so your argument is void Steve and Ex NYC Fake traitors.
Nuff Said.
thanks Westwood, you live here, you know that new york is full of great things to do and the capital of beautiful women. If your a single guy you better get here, there is no other place where so many gorgeous woman live in one place. Thus… adding to the quality of life. Have you seen the woman in Ohio? By the time they are 25 they are…married, overwieght, have short cropped weird haircuts, uneducated, and I did I forget overweight? And by the time they are 35 they look like they are in their 60’s, and dress like it too. Or they just love the Buckeyes and Indians and have nothing else in their boring lives to look forward too. Once you leave Ohio at first its weird because everyone your surrounded by are not obsessed with sports, then you realize, oh, this is what the rest of the world is like and there are other things to look forward too after work.
Westwood,
Hey man, what is the job market like around where you live? I’m scouting cities to live, and NYC was sweet when I went. I loved it, but it is way too pricey. You know of somewhere that is close and still easy on the pockets? What is the job market like that way? I’m curious. I went to Cleveland, and got out of the car this time. Man, I was so disappointed. From the expressway, Cleveland looks like it could potentially be a little sister city to Chicago. However, when I got off the exit and actually explored the city and talked to some of the natives…whoa. That’s really all I can say. The mentality of Cleveland, in my opinion comes by as somewhat similar to Toledo in the sense that no one is enthusiastic about anything there. Very apathetic and detatched from everything other than sports and drinking. I was somewhat let down, because like I said, it looked like it could be a thriving metropolis. It turns out that it’s just a big Toledo. Still more going for it, but the atomosphere is the same. I know that Cleveland achieved the coveted “Poorest City in America” title this year, and when you go into the greater part of the city proper…you can definately see why. Ohio is definately on a downslide. Oh yeah, Chris is right about Ohio women. These are really some of the weirdest, hagged-out females I’ve ever seen in my life. ALL of them have kids by the time they are 21, and they have a really messed up mentality. At least LA women keep their looks up. These women are very afraid of the gym. The conversation with them is very limited and one-sided. Enlighten me to the “Jewel of the East Coast”. How is life in the fast paced NYC setting?
Jerold:
NYC is pricy but there are some parts that are decent in price. I would recommend looking at move.com and check some listings out there. Or I would check newsday.com also. I would check in areas of maybe the bourgh of Queens, or check out Long Island Nassau County. Because Manhatten is expensive.
But trust me it is well worth it. That area has a ton of stuff to do and a ton of choices. You could have a choce of going to the nightclubs and dancing. Check out http://www.websterhall.com or check out a guess list called http://www.ericvirgil.com about clubs in the NYC area. Or there are great bars for fun. Also, you can go to lounges, or check out cultural events, book signings, walk in central park (in the daytime) drive to the malls outside of the city with great quality. Or my favorate event is checking out the Puerto Rician Day Parade or check out the Amature Night at the Apollo in Harlem, or check out Theater in Lincion Center or on Broadway play and musical. Outside of the city to Check out are Westchester County and Rockland County and Fairfield County Connecticut north of NYC. Check out Long Island east of Queens. Check out New Jersey Bergan County, Passiac County, Union County and Essaxs County(northern part) west of the city. Pleanty of stuff to do. Or you can resort to being a bumblef*ck rooting for either Ohio State or be a Giants fan all day long (if you wanted to act a fool)
As for the job market it is good. I would say if you are in technology they are looking for engineers. The pay could start at $50,000 to 70,000.
Only down side is it isn’t like the 1980’s where Time Square was the red light district. That got cleaned up by Rudy Guilani back in 1994-1996 and it has been sent to the Long Island City section of Queens and a few outer bourghs all scattered about.
Now to your view of Ohio in terms of quality of ladies well, I didn’t see too much. I only went to a place in the Flats called Rock Brewery Pub and only saw the waitress and she did look good. Then the rest of the time I saw some ladies that looked like they were old people. The only other time I saw nice looking ladies was when I was at a gas station near my friends house in Akron. I only saw one nice looking lady there. Other than that I really couldn’t tell you how I viewed the quality of ladies there. But if it is as bad as you say it is in Ohio (particulary Toledo or when you visited Cleveland), then all you need to do is maybe make a pit stop in Erie, PA and then my old stomping ground of where I went to school in Buffalo, NY to just show you that it is all hell, mutated looking lady hell. Buf if you want to visit it then do so at your own will and caution eat the wings of La Nova and head accross the boarder to Canada (with your passport of course). But all kidding asside I would look into NYC period for the real life. And get that resume and job arranged so you can get that job in the NYC that is good and you can live. Good and great luck to you and escape those fat SLOBS OF OHIO!!!!!!!!
I forgot to mention the West Indian Day Parade and the St. Patricks day Parade, allong with the New York Auto Show, and the Macy’s Thanksgiving parade allong with going shoping in the city in the section called SoHo where there are more fine looking ladies and great clothing styles as well. So enjoy another visit to NYC and ignore Ohio
Oh and Jerold:
I would suggest living in Queens near a subway line becuae that way you don’t have to depend on a car as much. And other cultural events would be concerts in Central Park or The Natural Musuam of Natural History or the American Musuam of Modern Art. Carnigeie Hall, and checking out the New York Stock Exchange. The only thing fast paced is that there are soo many things to do and things and people to see its good. Much better than where I went to school which was Buffalo.
To Chris
Sorry I didn’t reply earlier but I have been busy with work. Anyway, New York is the best place and I wouldn’t want to leave it. So much stuff to do. And for me even though I live out side of the city in Westchester County, I have an option of staying in my local area or going down to the city. Even ladies in the NYC suburbs are fine as hell to. And it may cost less to get into clubs. And in the city there are events as well like speed dating where you will meet quality. Unlike the visit I had in Ohio unless you are in college. I use to go to school in Buffalo and that town sucked the big one.
One thing that made me laugh was this clown who was trying to say there are plenty of things to do in cleveland. I had to laugh because when I went to the Flats in this past August 2006 I saw that it was just dead. When I went back in in 2000 there was a lot of life going on but from what I heard people drowned in the Cyahoga River and the city shut the Bars down in the Flats and moved everything to the Warehouse District. Here is this clowns website http://www.flamingmailbox.com/borger/blog/2006/02/well-its-been-interesting-past-couple and how he promotes a good time with a website called coolcleveland.com. What a mess this fellow on this blog is. He must be smoking that crack pipe allong with his angle dust
Anyway, I know your a Browns fan but I am a Giants fan but both of our teams are not in the Superbowl, maybe next year. But we don’t have to be surrounded by a bunch of fantasy league SLOBS Anyway, keep promoting NYC and the radio stations of Hot 97.1, 98.7 Kiss FM, Z100(100.3)FM, 103.5 KTU, 107.5 WBLS, Power 105.1 FM, La Mega 97.9 FM, and La Keae 105.9 FM and 92.7 K Rock and they all play the newest and latest music for Hip Hop, Reggae, Reggaeton, Rock, and all the good stuff.
Nuff Said
Hey Westwood,
NYC sounds hot, I might start looking that way as well. I have an IT Certification, but there are no jobs up this way for that. I also have engineering experience from the military, so I think I’ll be good. I’m looking to move in August/September. I can’t wait to get the hell out of hell. Toledo is really just a nowhere town. Just a lot of hopelessness and depression. From what I saw in Cleveland, and what I read about in this blog, the rest of Ohio is nothing but a wasteland. I hate that I ever moved here. I’d advise anyone who is considering moving to Toledo to strongly reconsider. The city is very much dying. I would even go to the extent to say that Toledo, Ohio is, in a few ways, broken beyond repair. I don’t think that even the right mayor could turn Toledo around. The depression and hopeless mentality is so engrained in the city, that it is almost impossible to change it. As for the nightlife, there is none. I’m a single guy, age 26…trust me. The women around here are as plentiful as the jobs. The nightclubs are nothing but rat-hole bars with music in them. Unless you like your women ghetto, hagged out, classless, clueless, goaless, hopeless, uncultured, narrow-minded, unattractive, and with a lot of kids by different men at age 24, Toledo is really not worth looking at. Thanks again to Westwood. I’ll look that way. To all who defend Ohio, please take a trip somewhere outside the state before you bash this blog.
Jerold – get out of Ohio, seriously, save up some money get out. 26 and single, dude you dont know what you are missing. And dont let any of the nay sayers talk you out of it, I live and work in Manhattan and there are plenty of jobs, especially in IT. I am surrounded by beautiful single women, walking down the street gives you a neck ache.
Westwood, you know what you are talking about man. Ohio was actually looking pretty good through the 90’s, my construction business was going strong and I had a pretty good life. Once 911 hit, the state never recovered and the jobs kept leaving in droves. Then you bring in the doush Gov Taft who raised all sorts of taxes and left under corruption. With all the job loss I think the state as a whole has gotten more and more redneck.
Cleveland was once an awesome city. There was nothing like seeing Pink Floyd at Cleveland Stadium, going to concerts at the Agora and Peabodys, the sports. The flats actually(late’80’s-mid90’s) used to be awesome, packed every weekend, lots of girls, great bars.clubs. But with the economy the whole state has gone to shit, enter the red necks. I commend those who stay there and stick it out, but I dont see it getting much better any time soon.
oh yeah, Jerold. Manhattan can be done, you have to get creative tho. It would be easy for you to find an apt. share for $1500/month, meaning, you would share a 2bed/2bath with someone. If you dont like that you can live uptown(above 72nd st), and find studios and one bedrooms that start around $1300/month. For a bachelor, this is heaven.(I am not joking)
Brooklyn is a great place to live, if you work in Manhattan. Great apartments, way cheaper than Manhattan, and yes, lots of cool single women. Hoboken is another great place right across from Manhattan with cheaper rents. Just like Westwood 1 said, Queens is awesome. Astoria Queens is a good cheap place to live with lots to do. These places have apts. starting around $1000/month.
You might think it is expensive, but you do pay for quality of life. Good job, great place, these places generally cost more. You just have to ask yourself if life is long enough to waste your time in a shit hole. I did that when I left Ohio. You will make more money and have a great job, and your resume with put you in a whole new job class. Good luck.
Yesterday was the Super Bowl and for one day and one day only the entire U.S. including the NYC area became like the state of Ohio for a day. Everyone all hyped up for a football game. Real fun for me being a bumblef*ck for a day
Well Congrads to the Colts but the game was just bland with the tons of comercials and the moonsoon in Miami during the halftime show.
Anyway, the Super Bowl party was good as the folks I spoke with talked about parts of the game and all other stuff in life. I bet Ohio folks said everything reminded them of either the Browns or the Unluckey Buck eye’s
But Chirs is right, and NYC is the place to be and here and here is an example with the nightclubs. Check this out below:
1. http://www.ericvirgil.com This is a guestlist to some nightclubs. The club names are
1. Sol-West 29th Street and 11th Avenue
2. Lotus-Meat Packing area West 14th Street and 9th Ave
3. Providence-West 57th and 6th Avenue
4. Strata-Broadway and West 21st Street
2. Next is the http://www.velvetlist.com and another guest list to the clubs as well.
3. Bars which are good are
1. Suttonplacenyc.com Sutton Place on East 54th and 2nd Ave
2. Opel-same area as Sutton Place
3. Redemption in the same area as Sutton Place
4. Check out SoHo and the lounges below
1. Madam X-www.madamx.com on LaGuardia Place and West Houston Street.
2. Libation on Spring Street.
5. A good club is also is http://www.websterhall.com (Webster Hall) on East 11th street and 3rd Ave
There are also bars in that area too called Bar none nearby and a couple of other bars which are full of life.
6. check out http://www.chinaclubnyc.com The China Club on
7. Or check out the Shadow Night club (a review http://www.nightclubnycguide.com/shadownightclubnyc.html on 7th Ave and West 28th Street
8. L.Q’s Latin Quarter fine ladies there as well East 48th Street and Lexington Ave.
But check out those two sites for the guestlists for discounted rates.
But for living conditions do check out Brooklyn like Williamsburg section or Uptown past 72nd street or check out the suburbs as well like Chris said. Anyway hope this helps and reply back if you have any questions
Chris: I was just curious again if you knew what exactly happened to the Cleveland Flats after Febuary 2000. We went to a slew of bars and then we went to a club called Mirage in the Flats. It seemed pretty good at the time. But again when I went this past summer while visiting a friend in Akron and seeing the Pro Football Hall of Fame Ceremonies in Canton, I saw that the Flats were dead and the only thing around was the Rock Brewery Pub. It was OK but that seemed to be it. When we left I saw that the Warehouse district was going well, but since I had a sinus problems while driving through Pennsylvania and being in Ohio during that Heatwave in NYC to Ohio I wasn’t feeling good going to that place. So oh well.
Anyway, enough of Ohio banter and on to the real matter. I just wanted to ask you where are your favorate spots in the city to go to. Do you go to clubs or bars. I do some of those but the real great stuff is the social networking functions to meet the ladies. I do those quite a bit becuase sometimes as well. Just curious?
Jerold:
Sorry for that link that was the wrong one. Here is the correct link to the place on LaGuardia Place and West Houston Street of Madame X:
http://www.madamexnyc.com/m3/main.shtml
Sorry about that
Hey Westwood/Chris,
I’ll definately go out for a visit soon. I usually go to Detroit to club. The D is pretty cool to chill in and have a good time. It has TONS of clubs, social networking events, concerts, etc. It’s where all the people who moved to Toledo from other places go to have fun. There are a lot of nice clubs and bars to go to. Thanx for the link. That place looks like one of the places I go to in downtown Detroit. It’s called Centaur Bar…
http://www.centaurbar.com
There’s also Bleu, X/S, Times Square Detroit, and Envy. Bleu is probably one of my favorites.
http://www.bleudetroit.com
The only club that Toledo does have, and it’s pretty good, is Syn. It is okay. Detroit is my spot on the weekends. Ann Arbor is also jumping. Oh yeah, check out Elysium’s site as well…
http://www.elysium-lounge.com
Very nice place to chill. Let me know what you think. I know it ain’t NYC, but they are nice clubs if you ever do have to be in the D.
I am sure once upon a time this may have been a nice place to live…but not anymore. This is the armpit of the universe. It is a Gestapo state, filled with more than it’s fair share of small minded thinking.
There is no natural beauty and the middle class is disappearing along with all the manufacturing jobs.
Hence the little hamlets are now cash strapped and so the local cops have to make up the deficit. Now it would be ignorant and infantile to say that all cops lie, but I will say my experience has not exactly been in their favor.
I was recently pulled over on a Sunday driving home from church in Bay Village Ohio (a suburb of Cleveland) with my wife along with my 5 month old 2 and 1/2 year old and 4 and 1/2 year old daughters. I was NOT speeding, I was in a brand new van and totally cognizant of my precious cargo and surroundings.
A quaint back road, the cop was coming towards me from the opposite direction when he pulls a u-turn upon passing me. I was congenial and he was rude. I aksed to see the read out and was told he didn’t have to show it to me. He told me I had 4 speeding tickets on my record…another lie (I haven’t had one in 5 years) I told him that was false. I asked to see that information and when and where the alleged tickets came from. He said he didn’t know the dates, only that Columbus has provided them that information.
Again. This place is god ugly the lying cops are like the gestapo. He gave me a speeding ticked on a made up charge and left.
With an incredibly lousy housing market ,(Ohio has been depreciating for the past 7 years ) There was never a spike here for a bubble to burst. It’s just been good money over bad.
I am done. I am putting the house up for sale. I will take my loss and move to another state without all the small mindedness that I continue to experience. They wonder why Ohio’s population continues to dwindle.
Thanks for clarifying that for us “leaveohionow”. Do NOT buy real estate in Ohio. It is not an investment. It is a waste of years of your life and money.
Buy an RV and move!
hey Westwood, just got back from a ski trip to Vermont. Great snow up there, about a 4 hour drive and a lot of fun. Aside from running up to Vermont for some quick ski trips, in the city I generally stick to the music bars/clubs. Tonic, The Stone, Mercury Lounge, Bowery Ballroom, North Six, Knitting Factory, Irving Plaza, Cake Shop and places like that. Just to go out I like th Third & Long, Gaslight and various other fine drinking establishments.
If you think ohio is bad try Texas or mississippi. Try living in a place where you cant even feel like you can leave your home the hate is so intense. White suberbans will always have something hateful to say about a mediocre place like Ohio, but the fact is that people like you are the only thing thats wrong about this state. My friends in Ohio have always been helpfull and suportive. I am glad to live here and call it home. Please check your egos and try not to be so hateful.
sorry Dirk, ohio does suck. the cities are the worst. poor, jobless, crime ridden and boring.
“Try living in a place where you cant even feel like you can leave your home the hate is so intense.”
-Dirk
I do live in a place where I feel like I can’t leave my home because the hate is so intense. I live in Toledo, OHIO. Texas doesn’t have a dying job economy. To be quite honest with you, I think Ohio is a lot more racist than both Mississippi and Texas. At least the white people there with let minorities know up front that they don’t like them. Ohio rednecks are the type that will befriend someone they know damn well they have hate for. Plus, Texas is more culturally diverse than Ohio. I’ve been to Texas many times and find it to be a very beautiful, scenic state. Ohio can’t boast scenic beauty or cultural diversity. Well, let’s see…
there’s Lake Erie (a brownish color with that hint of gas station toilet aroma), then the Ohio Triplets(Cleveland, Cincy, and Toledo.) offer all sorts of cultural diverse areas(just make sure ya ain’t black or mexican), and of course the charming Ohioans who are very open-minded and conversational (just make sure that they’ve known you their whole life, and you’ll be fine.) Get real, Ohio’s a joke.
Ohio is a joke just look at the criminal codes that seem to favor the criminals and if you dare to criticize the police in Ohio you are labled a dirtbag by these upstanding citizens. I agree with Jerold Ohio bigots are a hoot they say they hate blacks but not only do they listen to black music, talk in ebonics, and dress like fugatives from Yo MTV Raps when I lived in Norwood one bar that I use to frequent the regulars would say the word nigger on a regular bases and wern’t afraid to show their bigotory but they talk black, play hip hop on the juke box to which their big butt girlfriends dance to. People in Ohio do tend to be two faced and a tad bit on the fair weather side they are your buddies one minute then turn on you the next expecially in Norwood those people are the worst when things are doing good and you have extra money these people are the best friends you think you have but once you fall on hard times or fall out of grace with one of their friends they treat you like the plague. There was a poll done by a local news show in Cincinnati in 1993 asking women what are the main qualities they look for in a man the number one answer was income in other words love and compatability take a back seat to having a six figure income and they wonder why Ohio women have a bad reputation for being whores.
I don’ t know what to say about the women here. They are nothing to bring home to moms. All of them have 4 kids by different men by the time they are 25. Not to mention, conversation with one of these ladies is about as deep as a puddle of piss in Arizona on a hot day. All the females here look like a bunch of walking, talking cigarette burns. They are disgusting. Toledo women are a bunch of drunks. I’ve never met a woman who loved to drink herself to the point of nausea and amnesia until I met a female Toledoan. Life seriously begins at 40 for these lovelies, because that is about the only single life you are gonna get in Toledo. All of the single women are 40, divorced (some twice or more), about 5 kids on them, bitter, and hagged out. You better not tell them that, though. To these eligible “born-again bachelorettes”, 48 is the new 18. It’s “Hags Gone Wild” everybody!!! You gotta come to fabulous Toleda to see it all, ya’ll!!! Yeee Haaaww! Ohio blows!!!
Yeowsha glad i never winded up in Toledo At least the women in Cincy and Norwood for the most part take care of themselves. The thing that always got me was seeing these fat chicks walking around wearing cutoffs, tube tops, and other tight fitting and way to revealing outfits that common sense would say are you really gonna go out looking like that. The women in Norwood are something else if you are a fairly attractive single man, clean, no criminal record, make an effort to look good when you go out and a nice guy you are declared community property in other words walk into a bar with your girlfriend or hook up with a pretty girl and depending on what bar you are at and how many locals desire you two to five women will try to intimedate her and the funny part about this is any other time if you are there alone they seldom associate with you unless they are drunk or horny. The single scene mostly consists of the following the typical middleaged divorcee, the college girl looking for a place to stay, the barflies, the chick who had a fight with their old man and was kicked out, and the over the hill party girl looking for a place to crash in other words when dating in Ohio don’t even think about having an intelligent conversation you may find one you can relate to but mostly you are better off just cutting to the sex.
My wife and I moved to Findlay, Oh 1 yr ago now. It is the 23rd place that we have lived in the United States. IT SUCKS. I can say that comparing it to alot too, not only have I lived in 23 places I have spent time in every one of the lower 48 and it is now my opinion that we would be better off just giving this state to Canada. That is, if they will have it. I hope that everyone thinking of moving here goes to get professional help somewhere. Go somewhere south, Fl, Al, Ga, hell even Mississippi looks great compared to this state with its cold temps, small crappy houses, and Lake Erie beaches that have signs warning you about the Ecoli present. OHIO SUX
I feel for you guys that want to leave Ohio. The second rush of Bumblefuckeye fever. It looks like Ohio State is going to the Final Four. I feel for you guys Jerold, and earlthepearl. Probably nothing but a bunch of stupid obsessed no life talk about the Bumblefuckeye basketball. I will admit Greg Oden is the real deal but I hope he leaves for greater pastures. But man guys will be enfatuated with that crap. Go Heals not the Bumblefuckeyes.
I am originally from Dayton, but now live in Vegas. Dayton is pretty bad, too. An ethnic group to a Dayton resident is somebody from Kentucky or Tennessee.
I – 75 is a racial divide (West of it being African American; East of it being Appalachian American). Dayton is just as reliant on the auto industry as Detroit or Flint, so it suffers accordingly.
Concerning Ohio State fans, I never liked the Buckeyes when I grew up in Ohio. I later lived in Chicago in the 1990 before coming to Vegas and followed Northwestern football when Gary Barnett was coaching there. Comparing Northwestern and Ohio State fans is like comparing apples to oranges. If Northwestern has a losing season, so what and who cares? But if Ohio State HAD A LOSING SEASON, the whole state would experience a hike in murders and suicides like nobody has seen.
i left Ohio in 1991 and have not gone back too much. My family and my wife’s family are afraid to come out here to Vegas probably because they are scared of a radically different environment and the fact they are so closed minded
First off ohio is an industrialized state, which means factorys,factorys,and more factoy JOBS. That about sums it all up. I’m originaly from dayton ohio and i don’t even know where to start on this one. The weather is POOR absolutly POOR one minute it’s 70 degrees the next its -1 and snowing. The summers here are miserable half of the year is 90% humidity literaly. In ohio there is either the suburbs ( where rich white snobby people live ) or the so called “bad” parts full of either white trash or ignorant black people. Some of the women here have like 9 kids running around with 9 different baby fathers on welfare, and all of the fathers have either been to prison or are in prison. The economy SUCKS ass Theres tax on EVERYTHING you buy. The police here don’t have lifes themselvs so they spend there time pulling over people for no reason and they will make you sit in the car for an hour and then maybe decide to give you a parking ticket ( Seriously ). The scenery is HORRIBLE if you like seeing trees, sidewalks, and raggity cars then this is the place for you. Otherwise if you are an exciting person whom likes to see exciting things let’s just say you might wanna stay away or after maybe a month you’ll be severly depressed. Shopping is horrible here the malls suck. If you don’t live in the suburbs and are rich then your school is most likely screwed up. So if you like doing things repeditly ex: getting up, going to work at a factory job making $6 an hour, coming home going to sleep waking up going back to work then OHIO is for you
. IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO IS MOVING TO OHIO PLEASE TELL THEM TO RUN AS FAR AS POSSIBLE. can’t wait to move to nyc!! yesss
To Jes: It is a great thing that you are a sell out on Ohio. Becuase when you go to New York you will see real women, not the fat lard asses from that state. I was there back in August for a couple of days and I wasn’t too impressed. I went to Akron to visit a friend where he was working at the Univ of Akron. I wanted to go to the Pro Football Hall of Fame which I did. My favorate player Harry Carson was there getting inducted and that was good. But when I saw Canton and Akron particulary I saw but a ton of restaurnts. Nothing but restaurants. I am like are these people fat or what? And the rest were malls. I even checked the Fair Lawn Mall outside of Akron and I saw Ohio State Buckeyes Club House. I was like what is this? I mean there are pro teams club houses in the mall but I thought the college stuff was on their campus. Check out my previous posts where I describe malls as just ordinary to me as they are everywhere in the New York Tri State Area. But you have to come to NYC so what’s stopping you. Go before you miss on the oppertunity.
P.S. Don’t get too caught up in the Ohio State fever with Greg Oden. What I mean is don’t be obsessed like the rest of your state folks are.
To Jes…
I feel you on telling people about Ohio. I wish I would’ve known. I’m on pace to move soon, as well. Around August/September time, God willing. I never been to Dayton, but is sounds a lot like Toledo. You know a city sucks when the mayor orders a “Toledo Pride” sign to be errected on the expressway overpass. I thought that the white trash/snobby hick syndrome was limited to just Toledo, but it appears to have infected the whole state. Buckeye fans are also a big disease around here. The women…haha…Westwood said it all. Good luck to all leaving the buttcrack of America.
Jerold: So what’s good? Chilling or what? How was the adventures in Motown these days? As far as Bumblefuck Toloda I guess going home is the in thing to do? Anyway, is Bumblefuckeye fever back again now that Greg Oden is in the Final Four for Ohio State? I mean Greg Oden is a very good talent but don’t get obsessed with him.
I just wonder are there any gyms in Toledo like Balies, or World Gym or Golds Gym there? If so then those folks in those towns know how to waste their lives by folks not using the gym
Anyway, is BumbleFuckeye Plague sprouting up again due to the Final Four. Unfortuntally, my team the North Carolina Tar Heals lost to Georgetown. I went to the game at the Meadowlands in New Jersey. Now I don’t want to make this a sports obsession chat but after that I did other things like check out a volenteer networking event two weeks ago and the ladies are fine. Some are from other parts of the country trying to escape the lack of culture. So, you will also meet a lot of transplants as well as New Yorkers. So, really come on down to the Big Apple, or Philadelphia, or DC or ATL or parts of Florida and say rest in piss to Ohio or whatever accents they borrow 
P.S. How is Toledo after Ohio State beat Memphis to go to the Final Four Just curious?
Hey Westwood,
I’m chillin. I’m just saving money and preparing to move later in the year. I’m definately gonna check out NYC in May. I’ve gotten good job offers from out that way. I’m also looking in Minneapolis. I’m going out that way in May and June as well. I’m very much looking forward to moving out of the Cock-eyed State. I’ve been going up to Detroit to enjoy REAL nightlife. It’s an escape from Toledo. So, you say that Philly and DC are cool as well? I’ve been to both, and liked them. Philly is kinda like Detroit. I think Philly might have a little more culture, though. DC is cool. As for the Final Four, my bracket fell apart from the opening round. I had UNC going all the way this year. I liked Hansborough. Greg Oden is a phenom in my opinion, and he should go pro. Of course, Toledo is riding the Buckeye Cock. They believe OSU will beat Georgetown. I hope they do win, because if Florida wins and beats OSU in the Finals…I can bask in the funny fact that Florida OFFICIALLY owns OSU. They will have beaten them in football and basketball. I’m definately checking out the East Coast and West Coast… anywhere away from this event horizon. I can’t wait to leave.
Well the bumblefucks worst nightmare came true. Well partly. It was Ohio State against Florida in the National Championship Game in January and Florida made OSU their bitch. IT IS THE REMATCH OF THE BCS GAME!!!!!!!!!! This is the sequal Bumblefuckeye fans and this time it will get worse and gory (excuse the spelling), like a Jason or a Freddy Kruger flick
And to add insult to injury Ohio State in the regular season in basketball beat Well guess what, I think the same will happen again. Go Gators!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat the bumblefuckeyes 
FUCK YOU OHIO!!!!!!
Ohio – good to come back to only if there is a funeral
Go Gators!!! They are the last hope to cure the disease that’s know as “BUCKEYE FANS”!!! And if they do win, I hope they find a map of Toledo…show it to the camera, then wipe all of their asses with it. Death to ALL Buckeye fans!!!
I just saw the pregame to the Final Four’s Championship game between the Florida Gator Cheerleaders and band and the Ohio State Bumblefuckeye Cheerleaders and band. Both the ladies were fine. But the Florida ones were finer slightly as well. Now, that being said the Ohio State Cheerleaders who are fine better come down to New York after they graduate or else they will become big and fat and nasty in 2 years. In other words Go Gators and beat the Bumblefucks again
To Jerold:
You got that right. Go Gators again. In fact back in 1998 I did an internship at NASA Kennedy Space Center and I got a chance to drive to Gainsville, FL. When I went to Univ of Florida well the ladies in the summer session there were smoking hot!!!! Not the weather hot but just fine as hell. Again, Go Gators and I hope central Florida and parts of South Florida leaders get a chance to Annex Ohio and make it more desirable. BTW Central Florida and South Florida has a lot of snow birds and a lot come from New York, Chicago, Toronto ON Canada, which has fine ladies. No disrespect to the open minded folks in Ohio and to the people that attend Ohio State that aren’t obsessed with the “Buckeyes”, this goes to the Bumblefucks that rule that whole state. So Go Gators and nuke and destroy the Bumblefuckeyes
Cleveland is the next Youngstown
Yes, Ohio Sucks.
TO BE AVOIDED AT ALL COST!.
7 month winters. The city proper(Cleveland) has become one large ghetto. Crime, drugs, and the majority asking for another “government program”
Residents and Visitors Taxed to Death.
Businesses leaving right and left. Also Taxed to Death!
Brain Drain. The talent goes elsewhere. I know I did.
Mayor Frank Jackson is so proud of his city that he wants to pass it on regionally. So those Solon, Pepper Pike and Westlake suburbanites with homes valued in the high 6 figures can look forward to your real estate values plummeting. Oh that’s right. There are so many homes in the high 6 and low 7 figures for sale that there is more than a 3 year inventory on hand. Does that mean that those who know have already put up the “For Sale” sign??? They’re not just moving to Geauga or Medina County, the real money is leaving Ohio!
Then at the Congressional level these intellectual nimrods continue to re-elect Dennis Kucinich. The Don Quixote of Congress. He runs for President in the last election and gets less than 1% of the vote, while ignoring his district the entire time. What do his constituents do? They re-elect him! He repays them by announcing he will run for President again in 2008! That shows the entire country how foolish these Clevelander’s are. As a result it’s no wonder the rest of the country laughs at Cleveland.
It’s no wonder they have no support at the Federal level. Their elected officials have alienated everyone that might have been inclined to help.
Here’s a little known factoid. The Fed’s have relocated the Federal Bankruptcy Court from Youngstown to Cleveland. Well obviously Youngstown ran itself into the ground years ago so there’s nothing left to bankrupt. The Fed’s who are very astute, looked 70 miles West and realized that the “Mistake On The Lake” is the next Youngstown.
There is one positive! Cleveland has a great Orchestra, but I can see them in Miami so that’s no reason to stay in Cleveland either.
Cleveland sounds like Toledo. You know you live in a redneck, backwards town when the Fire Chief and Police Chief are the SAME guy. I’m not joking!!! You know the mayor is stupid when he considers a drop in petty crimes an improvement, despite a 25% increase in murders. Toledo is a hopeless hole, filled with hillbillies with no sense of upward mobility whatsoever. I can’t wait to move. I’m so glad I didn’t buy a home here. You can’t go one block without seeing a “for sale” sign that’s been sitting in front of the same home for a year. Toledo has the lowest home values next to Detroit. Also, the city is determined to keep the economy in a unionized, manufacturing state…meanwhile, jobs and people are leaving buy the thousands. Living here is like living in a sad movie that has an even more depressing ending. If Toledo were a movie, it’d be called “The Pursuit of Mediocrity”.
Man that is bad. No nightlife in Toledo, and C-Town the endless hood. That really sucks, Like I mentioned in a few posts before I went to Akron and it seemed ordinary to me. There were a ton of restaurants there and that was it. Anyway, it seemed bad there that a couple of weeks ago the Cleveland Indians got snowed out and had to move their home games to Milwaukee
. It shows that is area mistake on the lake when you can’t get your opening games down pat on time 
Should have built a dome C-Town 
Anyway, Gerold:
How is Toledo recovering after the second whop ass from the Florida Gators
Did the bumblef&ckeye’s and their fans jump off the roofs or did they start bar room brawls and destroy stuff. All I can say is Florida should come and annex Ohio ASAP 
To all:
How was C-town, Colombus, Cincinnati and the rest of the state when the Florida Gators whopped the Ohio State Buckeyes in the National Championship Basketball Game on April 1st.
Again maybe Florida with the right leadership could and should annex Ohio
Because now The Flordia Gators is Ohio State’s Bi%ch 
I’ve sat here and read most of the comments about Ohio and I must say “i’M GLAD I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS OHIO IS A BLACK WHOLE SUCKING THE LIFE OF EVERYONE WHO IS THINKING ABOUT LEAVING”!!!!! GET ME THE HELL OUT OF HERE!
Bubbles:
I was born in Dayton, attended Ohio University, and got the hell out in 1991. It took a lot of guts to not fall into the family trap that most of the residents seem to have.
YEEEEESSSSSSS!!!! I have potentially landed a job in Minneapolis, MN!!!!! I have my fingers crossed as I go in June to interview for the job. God willing, I’m gonna be leaving Toledo forever!!!!!!! Please, someone…anyone…pray for me that I get this job!!!! I PRAY TO GOD!!! Ohhhh, I want out of here so bad. I feel like life is passing me by, here. I’m too young, and too ambitious to be here and rot my youth away. Please God!!!
Jerold:
Great attitude!! I hope you get that job in Minneapolis. After I first graduated Ohio U, I tried to live in Ohio (Dayton and Cincinnati) for four years until 1991 and it was a miserable failure. After that, I moved to Chicago where I lived for over ten years and had a great time. Get out of Ohio and you will do the same. Even if you do not get that job in Minneapolis, just pick up and move anyway as a back-up plan. You only live once!
Tim
All of us here in Nevada and California are planing to suck the water out of the Great Lakes!
Tim
Picking up and leaving is an alternative plan, just wanna make sure I have the funds to do it. I do have that as a fail-safe, though. I am just praying and hoping that the cards fall the way that I want them to. Like I said sometime before, Toledo has endless potential…just the people won’t capitalize on it. They are too busy letting an ignorant biggot run their town into the ground, while they crank out the kids and cheer on the buckeyes. I see why all of the graduates from UT leave Toledo. It’s sad. Here’s a link to give you an idea of how bad Toledo is. I think I left it a while back, but here it is for you.
http://www.cityculture.org/city.php?id=3063&page=1
To Jerold:
Here is another site to really encourage people to leave Tolttle
Also, you also want to avoid Western New York as well. Here is the reason below:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17571771/#storyContinued
Because I don’t know if it is Lake Erie or what but Those towns mentioned SUCK BIG TIME
I bet you Ohioans are just drooling at LeBron James and his 48 for the Cleveland Cavs. Well I just think the Spurs will beat them in the Finals. If they can get there
LeBron should have been a Knick thanks to Charles Dolan the owner, Scott Laden the former General Manager, and Issaih Thomas the current General Manager (great player in his day as point guard with the Detroit Pistons though).
Overall, I just wish the folks the best if they are trying to move out of Ohio. Because if the sports sucks there is much more stuff there, like fine ladies and it is summer now. So get your finances up and ignore the nay sayers and come on down.
Cleveland is going crazy because LeBron has taken the once hapless Cavs to the finals. Toledo is going crazy because Cleveland is 100 miles away and they love any team that is close and if one of the players has a cousin from here. YeeHaww, Git r done LeeeBron!!! Us and yer cousin are a-rootin fer ya here in Toleda!!! I don’t care who wins, I’m just happy I’m leaving this crap-hole state.
jerold, checked out that msnbc list you sent… telling you from experience, since you are in IT you should seriously consider san francisco and san jose california. To average Ohioans it appears to be “expensive,” but since you are educated and dont work in a gas station or for a government agency you are not an average Ohioan. Full of woman(I know I married a cali girl) and great jobs, definitely check it out, most of the people there are formerly from the mid-west and will never go back!
With the risk of taking a major kick to the ole nuts on this board, I will say I am rooting for the Cavs 100%. Sure they have not a chance in hell, but at least they have finally made it.
Jerold you need to get out of there and come to New York. Because this time is the Puerto Rician Day Parade and it is packed again with fine ladies, not hags gone wild.
Here is a sample of what the big apple will look like tomorrow. Well you could always go for next year.
http://www.nationalpuertoricandayparade.org/parade.html
Well good luck and get out of bumblef$#kville.
Chris: Since you are in NYC you need to go there as well. I think I will skip out this year. Only because I have other stuff to do around the house tomorrow. But yeah you don’t get this in Ohio. NYC is the place.
NYC looks great, I’d love to live there. Like I said before, if the opportunity presents itself…and my money situation can swing it…I’m a New Yorker. Right now, my sure shot is Minneapolis. I’ve been doing interviews out there for a couple weeks now. Minneapolis seems pretty cool. I’d definately be willing to give NYC a try, though. Anything is better than the “Worst Dating City in America”. Toledo is a buttcrack, and I can’t wait to leave.
I have have never wanted anything in my life as much as I want to leave Ohio and never come back. This place is sucking the life out of me and every day I have to stay here my soul withers away a little more.
Ohio is a hellish pit of ignorance, corruption, and sadness.
Please, please, please, may some fool buy my shit-ass M/I house so I can flee this damned place.
Ahaaa Ohio Fans. Again folks claim that you are the tough enough and the cream of the crop in sports. You folks make sports your entire life and claim you are better than anyone when you folks are nothing but pure s*@t! in your tackey homes and meaningless jobs while you put other people down who want upward mobility!!!!!! Look what happen to your lowly Cavs. They got swept by a quiet good honest team called the San Antonio Spurs
Now don’t jump off the bridge now 
Folks, IT’S ONLY A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well I guess it rung a bell but that’s it because you folks see sports as your entire lives while you rot and rot and rot. Again, your teams are everyone’s bitch from the Football Bumblef#$eye’s and Basketball to the Cavs.
Now I am not trying to make fun of the team (The Cleveland Cavs). I respect LeBron James very much as that team as struggled to get to this level. Congrads to them. And Carlos Boozer should be blamed for one thing. He should have stayed with Cleveland instead of going to the Utah Jazz. Because he could have been the compliment player with LeBron James. All and all great season Cavs and I wish LeBron was a Kincks. Oh well I can thank my narrowminded executives at Madison Square Garden. OK enough of the sports banter.
No disrespect to the fans or some people of Ohio who are open minded and are trying to leave or stay and keep their open mindedness. I big middle finger to the narrowminded folks of Ohio. I am glad you narrowminded folks got yet another loss in your sports championships because it proves that you are this everyone else’s BITCH (opps I mean Beitch) in sports when you act like you are all that which you are not. And all you narrowminded folks that don’t like this message then you can just kiss my a#$!!!!!!!!
Nuff Said
Westwood1 ( a sports fan but has a life and real fun outside of sports and is in shape representing the NYC area)
I felt inclined to leave a remark on here. NW Ohio is a trash heap, and I’m glad I’m leaving. I’ve lived here for a few years in Toledo. Man, let me tell you…this town is a toilet. I can’t believe I ever found my way here. I’ve landed a new career and found new opportunity on the east coast, so I’m leaving here shortly. I never knew that human beings could be so close minded and mean. There are absolutely no jobs in the area, and the mayor doesn’t seem to care. The environment here is real stagnant, and I felt for the past 2 years that my life was stuck in a rut. I had a good job, lived in a neat little pocket of Toledo, and still felt like life was over. No one here knows how to live. They just go to work, eat, and reproduce. This town blows, and I agree with everyone else here. I don’t know much about Columbus, but I’m sure it’s just as bad and redneck as Toledo. To all the young people who just so happen to venture onto this site, all I have to say is this:
Toledo is a dead end town. The only reasons to stay here is if you(by chance) land a good job that pays more than $7 bucks an hour, or if you have a wife and kids to take care of and need a reasonably cheap city to live in. TOLEDO IS NO PLACE FOR YOUNG, AMBITIOUS PROFESSIONALS!!! You won’t find any ACTUAL friends here. The most you can hope for is a somewhat astute aquaintance. You won’t find a wife/husband here because everyone one here seems to get married right out of high school. Lastly, your career ambititions will die if you don’t leave. You will develop that “lost in stupidity” mentality that Toledo embrasses so much. Do not come/stay here, if you have dreams of doing anything. I’m happy I’m still young enough to not have wasted all of my twenties here.
Hey this is a great website and the fact that you mention ohioi s good. is interesting i see many people posting that ohio is a bad place to live, i don’t think it could be any worst than north Philly
where i currently reside. I was in ohio July 14th and i seen many properties that were boarded up. They state that the foreclosure rate is really high there. You may say that i am crazy, but i am looking to invest in real estate in cleveland ohio. Perhaps with the many postings on here maybe you could point me in the right direction on which sections to buy in. I was looking at cuyahoga county. Investor in need of help.
As the unfortunate owner of 3 Ohio properties (not a lot but enough) I can say that the foreclosure rate is well-deserved. In fact, I believe we’ve been the leader in that category and a lot of my friends who were all excited about real estate in 2004 are kicking themselves in 2007.
You better buy a seriously well located under priced property or you’ll never sell it. Plus why would you want to make that god-awful road trip from eastern PA to Cleveland every time the tenant breaks something? How are you going to remodel the place without camping out in Cleveland for weeks at a time?
There are a lot of better places than Cleveland. Try a little harder, it’s a big country. Go a little further west and hit Chicago. . Personally, I like Chicago better than Cleveland for some reason.
I’m with you Earl. I love Chicago. I’d also recommend Minneapolis, MN or Denver, CO. Cleveland, in my opinion, seemed almost like Toledo. There are a lot of people and businesses that took a gamble on investing in tons of property in this area. Now, thanks to being close to both Detroit and Cleveland, the foreclosure rate is ridiculously high. I guess if you know something that everyone else doesn’t about Cleveland, then it’s a good gamble. I just see a city with potential that nobody will act on. At least from the city, anyway. Same thing with Toledo, lots of potential…no followthrough. I’m back and forth between here and my new apartment in St. Paul, MN, as I still have 3 months left on my lease here. It seems like everytime I come back here, another business has gone belly up. Although I move to Minnesota during a somber time(pray for all of the families involved in the I-35 collapse, PLEASE!) I still feel that there is new, better promise there than there ever was here. Outside looking in now, I’d say that unless you know something that’s about to go down with Cleveland that will turn the fortune of that city around, I think your best bet in property in Ohio is somewhere in Columbus. Earl would know more about that than I would.
Hey y’all, been a while but Jerold, congrats man. Get out there and get laid dude. MN women are sweet, some of the finest in the mid-west. MN is a progressive place with some real opportunity, makes Ohio look like West Virginia
Earlthepearl, I had the idea to buy some investment property in Ohio, and manage it with a property manager based in Ohio. I live out of state. I would be buying around central Ohio. Do you see any opportunity there, with all of these foreclosures happening, are there any deals now?
Cincinnati and Norwood are no different from Toledo and Cleveland except Cinci is allot more cleaner and are trying to clean its act up. Norwood is a lost cause way to much corruption, incompetency, and crime plus 70% of the population are of two types thieving assholes or just plain scumbags if I had my way I would level that whole city turn it into a shopping mall and ship the 70% off to the zoo so the kids can get a chance to see real life flaming assholes within the confines of a cage
Chris, I guess I couldn’t recommend too many property managers as they all give me sh*t and charge high hourly repair prices. In fact, I don’t want to get caught recommending my current property manager but I can tell you he is in Grandview, Ohio and he is OK. I’ve had one really bad one who sold me a lemon of a property, lied on the disclosure and then mismanaged it and finally stole the security deposit of the tenant.
As far as opportunities I’m the wrong guy to ask. My property prices have sunk and my rents are flat. I’m just holding on to what I’ve got until the tide comes back in.
If you want to attend foreclusure sales then you have to bring a large percentage of the listed price with you in cash or get a foreclosure mortgage specialist who can finance that. The foreclosures are on the Franklin County sheriff’s web page with dates and times. You have to go to the Franklin county courthouse ,park for $5-10 somewhere and have them direct you to the sale.
Man it sounds like Ohio really is a state in the flux in properties. I am sure I would never buy property there. I would love to buy a house in the New York City area but it is too expensive. But in Ohio nothing seems to rise which is too bad. Oh well, there are other places.
If you are not college educated in Ohio then you are treated like shit when it comes to employment and social life especially if you live in a fucking college town. I had an incident where I was talking to a friend in a bar about politics when this loud mouth college know it all overheard us and proceeded to chastise me because in his bigoted mind since I was not a college man I should only limit my conversations to beer and trivial things the only thing that saved him from a five knuckle phd was the bartender who threw him out. Ever notice how born and raised Ohioans love to berate and put down people from West Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennessee for every little thing but I’ve seen homes and neighborhoods that make the worst deep south trailer park look like real swanky places.
Hey JimPickens,
I hear you on the bigotted college people in Ohio. When I lived in Toledo, I worked with some of the so-called “young professionals” it had to offer. These “young professionals” were really just somewhat educated, racist, narrowminded bigots from the hick towns that Toledo classifies as suburbs. Only these people wouldn’t welcome politcal conversation unless it consisted of praising the war in Iraq. Other than that, if you didn’t graduate from UT or BGSU…you were pretty much treated like an idiot. Oh, and they only make fun of those places because they think that they are inferior to them, Jim. In fact, the news up here in Toledo tried to poke fun at Boise, ID. A month later, a survey came out that labeled Boise as the number 7 most progressive city in America…while Toledo was the 12th poorest city in America. So, go figure.
That’s higher than Norwood.
I used to live in Maryland and i moved to ohio ohio sux the people everyware in columbus are white trash and everything sux the cops you have 5 different police that have juresdiction in grove city every one of them want to pull you over the Highway patrol can pull you over in the middle of the fuckin city i hate ohio i movin to AMSTERDAM
Ogh oh guess what time it is again. If you saw the BCS show the Bumble F$ckeyes are back. Yes those crazy loser fans of the bumble f$ckeyes are back drinking their guts out at their mega sports bars in Columbus and Toledo, Ohio. I did run into an Ohioian from Canton on a shopping trip Manhatten (I was actually coming back from a mid-afternoon session from moxieinthecity over at a bar called Latatude on West 48th and 8th avenue). I met the dude in Time Square. He did seem somewhat civil but he had on his Bumblef$ckeye hat. Well All I can say is GO L.S.U. AND GOD BLESS SOME OF THE PLAYERS ON THAT TEAM THAT’S FROM NEW ORLEANS (PARTICULARY WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM FROM HURRICANE KATRINA) They are back to get their a$$es handed to them
GO L.S.U.
I stumbled on this site because I wanted to see if there were any others out there who’ve been to this God-forsaken state and share the same opinion I have of it. I live in Cleveland, and let me tell you, I’ve never lived in such a suck of a town. I am originally from Colorado, as I moved here because of my wife whom I met in the Air Force. After 3 years of wedded bliss to this native Clevelander, we are now in the process of a divorce. A lot of people looked at me wierd when I told them I was gonna move to Ohio with her. I wish I would’ve taken heed to the many warnings about both the place and the people. Although I have a good job that pays well enough to live in most major cities, I’m apalled at how the city’s government or people refuse to do anything to improve the poor economic crisis this place is facing. I hate how the people here are surprisingly very bible belt-ish, biggoted rednecks.(Hence a lot of the reason why my wife and I can’t see eye to eye on anything.) There is no intelligent conversation to be had here, as the people only care about the Browns and Ohio State. The majority of the populice seems very uneducated, even in the more affluent areas like where I live.(well, by Cleveland standards it’s nice…average at best though.) I haven’t made ANY friends here, either. Married couples here tend to hang with other married couples just to have business to meddle around in. My co-workers don’t like me because I wasn’t born and raised here, and my in-laws are just a trip. My wife has fought with me (literally) numerous times because I just seriously don’t like the Ohio State Buckeyes or the Cleveland Browns/Indians. I say that because most of the people here are dead serious about their sports. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a sports fan myself…but if you aren’t a fan of Ohio teams here, they SERIOUSLY harbor ill feelings toward you. I just don’t see myself raising children around such an ignorant mentality. My wife is a true Northeast Ohioan. Not to get on here and bad mouth her, but her mentality and ways are just not in sync with mine. I’ve never seen such infidelity amongst married couples as I’ve seen here, as she was unfaithful to me with one of her friend’s husband. So now, at 28…I’m moving back to Denver in the Summer when my divorce is finalized. I’m happy that I didn’t have kids with her, because I don’t have any ties to Ohio at all anymore. I would never want to subject my children to have to live or spend time in such a sad place with sad people. Everything in Ohio is bad. I thought my wife was an exception, however 3 years and 145 lbs later, not so much. I can’t wait to go, and I agree with the previous post by Westwood 1…I hope the buckeyes lose. To hell with Ohio.
Don’t tell me the loserfest is coming a float again. I mean your Browns choked on the Hooters Wings with their fans lard a$$es and their botched playoff run by your other team the Bungles (opps I mean the Cincinatti Bengals). Now you have the hype of the BCS which involves Ohio State being the while universe in that bumblef%ck state and stating that they will take it all and they are royalty which revolves around those broke a$$ lard a$$ fans is a joke. Again go L.S.U. Not O.H.I.O. (ORIGINAL HOGS of IGNOReNCE and OBEESITY). And if anyone who is an ignorant and narrowminded and all of the above from Todd’s last post and doesn’t like what I got to say than tough s$it and kiss my a$$. Have a nice day and go L.S.U ;-0
P.S. Too all the open minded folks there if I offended you then sorry but I just wanted to attack the stupid and ignorant. So, open minded folks of Ohio if you wish to change the area or leave the state then again sorry but for all the ignorant then I hope you all go down in the BCS
Guess what Ohio??? All you Bumblef$ckeyes my team is in the Super Bowl. Go Big Blue. LET’S GO GIANTS!!! And they will be facing the Pat’s. Where are your Brownies playing golf in Shaker Heights or some dump of a town you call suburbs. And guess what Brownie Fans, your former coach turned the New England Patriots around and he was a Defensive Cordinator for my Big Blue Giants. And guess what he was winners, WITH THEM. NOT YOUR STUPID BROWNIES WHO HAS NOTHING BUT LOSING MENTALITY. SO YOU IGNORANT F%CKS YOUR S$(T STINIKS BADLY IN STUPIDITY. NUFF SAID
AND YOUR BUMBLEF*CKEYES JUST LAID AN EGG AGAINST L.S.U. GO NEW YORK GO NEW YORK GO. THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD AND OHIO NEED TO BECOME MORE OPEN MINDED
NUFF SAID.
I agree with most all of you. Ohio is, for the most part, a shit hole. However, not the entire state is a redneck white trash haven. For instance, i grew up in North Canton (on the list of “America’s top 100 places to live, along with Oakwood, OH). I recently moved to a small town south of Pittsburgh and i absolutely hate it. I find most of western PA smells horrible. Anyway, my point is this, no matter where your from, chances are you live no more than ten miles from a shitty little town.
Yeah there are a few nice places in Ohio but where I lived Norwood is not one of them.
Oh, my. I just moved to Columbus 6 months ago from Montana. Lived 52 of my 54 years in Montana. Parts of the state are beautiful. But – you want to talk redneck?? The guys all aspire to have their truck, their rifle (in the truck) and their dawg (also in the truck). The central part of the state, where I’m from, has a hideous economy. One new business comes in – two others close. The housing is totally unrealistic for the wages. And talk about nothing to do. Most events are priced out of reach of the locals. If you ever want to live in Montana, try Billings, Missoula or Bozeman. And get ready for 9 months of winter every year. I remember one winter where the temp got down to 45 below. That’s not wind chill – that’s actual temperature. Still it would be a change from Ohio, I guess!
I have been in and around Cleveland and it is one backwards,hillbilly,Police State.I am moving to Madison, Wisconsin where real people live. Ohions are some unfriendly ,stupid, ignorant assholes.I made more friends in 1 year in tennessee than 7 in ohio. move and move fast.
You wanna talk about redneck, try Toledo. I am leaving as soon as the weather breaks. Toledo is a big trailer park. Full of backwoods, ignorant, racist/biggoted, bumpkin mouth breathers. All they talk about is Ohio State and the Browns. It sucks so much here. I can’t wait to get the hell out of here. And Eric is right, these are the most unfriendly people.
waterville is adorable and ne one who doesnt think so can drink bleach
Pass a glass! Waterville is just another cookie cutter pocket of Toledo. Ugghh!!!!
The worst thing about any geographic location
be it Ohio or outer mongolia is the feeling
of being trapped. The feeling that we’ve made
a decision that we can’t get out of.
I guess I don’t have a lot of ideas to help my own
situation caused I’m basically F***Ed, but I sure have
one good piece of hard-won
advice for the kiddies out there and one of them is for sure
the longer you stay the harder it’s going to be to leave.
If you’ve got to the point where you “must” do
something irrevecable like buying a house(in Ohio yuck!),
or the whole town wants you to marry your high school sweetheart,
or joining the marines, or up and moving to California.
STOP! Freakin STOP! PAUSE. REWIND.
Think of the negatives and positives and how
you can weather the storms you’re about to fly into.
Make some real plans.Heres some advice.
( A sleeping bag is a good investment.)
(…cause sometimes they turn off the heat when you’re broke
and it takes up to 2 months to evict your sorry-A).
(The marines are perenially underfunded cannon fodder.)
(You’ve known your High School sweetheart for how long? 2 years?)
…what about the other 25 years?)
(California and particularly the Bay area have a very high suicide rate…why
do you s’pose that is? I’ll give you a hint. It ain’t the natives who are jumping
off the Golden gate.)
Don’t rely on pure faith. Save about 3 grand. Buy a trunkload of doritos and sh*tty energy
drinks or whatever it is you kids eat in this godforsaken day and age
and then after careful planning and maybe investing in that sleeping bag and a car with
a big old bench seat in the back for said sleeping bag and tinted windows front and back and sides
..then go and do it to the maximum. Find your place in the sun. Go get a great job and never
-ever –ever come back. Especially if people start calling and begging you to-because they
will.
B.T.W. if you’re going out then you can rent a car in Vegas very cheap…for your sleeping bag but
it doesn’t come with the tints. Should cool off in the nighttime. You’ll have to leave your
carhome in the daytime I would say.(maybe a van with a couple bags of ice… is the way to go?)
You can shower at the health club while your down-and-out. Eventually you’ll find something and it will
all just be an embarassing memory. Meanwhile those other schmucks run out of cash and come home telling
mommy and daddy how much LA sucked.
Just don’t be angry,impulsive or emotion driven. That’s definitely
the path to hell(or Ohio in my case). Be steadfast but flexible.
That’s all folks. Doubt if I’ve helped anyone.
None of this applies if you’re a rich A-hole or
have a grad degree or a fat wallet.. and by the way stay the F**K out of Ohio!!!
ONE THING I CAN SAY IS THAT THE GIANTS RULE!!!!!! THAT’S RIGHT SO ALL YOU BIG TIME OHIO STATE FANS OR C-TOWN BROWNS FANS YOU HAVE NO LIVES. AT LEAST THE GIANT FANS HAVE THE CLASS AND THE REAL NESS OF REAL LIVES UNLIKE YOU BUMBLEF**K’S. SO OHIO, TRY FINDING A LIFE AND AN INDUSTRY BESIDES STEEL MILLS. AND BECOME MORE AUTHENTIC AND STOP BEING COLD AND NARROWMINDED AND IGNORANT. NUFF SAID.
2007 GIANTS ARE #1 BABY GREATIST SUPER BOWL EVER AND OUR TEAM BEAT THE BEST. GIANTS ALL THE WAY AND NYC IS STILL KING!!!!!
I agree with earlthepearl. If you are gonna get out of Ohio, don’t go to California, unless you have the California money. Plus, that lifestyle is sad, as so many people out there are living way outside of their means just for the “prestige” of saying “I live in L.A.” If you are gonna leave Ohio, good for you. But have a plan as I did. Now I have a rewarding career in Minneapolis, a vast circle of REAL friends, and a pretty satisfying life. Ohio has no upside, it’s a bad situation. For the love of God, please have a plan. Don’t go to L.A. thinking you are gonna continue your lifestyle on your current Ohio budget, because you’re in for a rude awakening. Save for a couple months, have a plan, land a good job, find a place, then move. And DON’T GO BACK TO OHIO!!!
I’ve been doing a TON of research and thought Ohio would be a great setting for the book I’m writing. I accidentely came across this website and it sounds like Ohio really does suck. Are they any great “small” (9-10 thousand+) towns anywhere in Ohio? Thanks!
Depends on what kind of town you are looking for. The key reason Ohio is so undesireable is because of the people. It’s a real “Twin Peaks” feeling that you get from Ohioans. They are very unfriendly, not what you would get in a steriotypic nice small town. There aren’t any “nice” towns in Ohio. The ratings range from horrid to not too terrible. If you don’t mind a not too terrible community, then you can base it in a few affluent suburbs of Toledo such as Perrysburg or Maumee. Those are the high-end areas of Toledo. Hope that helps.
Out of the complete state of Ohio, Toledo us by far the nastiest, ugliest and most depressing city to be in. I have been around the world, and even in 3rd world countries people have more class and culture than the inbreeds of Toledo.
The weather sucks; freezing for 4 months, hot as hell for 3 months, muck, sleet, rain for the remaining time of year. Sure there are a few very nice neighborhoods, but you’re still surrounded by shit and dirt anywhere you go so it doesn’t even matter in the grand theme of things. You have gated community’s right next to trailer parks and they all must coexist. I have come here with hopes of staying for a few years for school and can’t wait to get the hell out, anywhere but this hellhole.
Its funny how many people mention the lack of intelligence, culture, manners, and general intellect in this part of the country. It really is true; people here “go out” to Olive Garden on Fridays and think they are experiencing Italian cuisine, ahaha! Hate to break it to you but THERE IS NOTHING CULTURAL OR SOPHISTICATED in Toledo or Ohio, their so called high end restaurants are shanties anywhere else in Europe, an average Toledoen is a caveman when it comes to literature or anything ethos related.
The great irony is the spectacular Toledo Museum of art, which is full of splendor. The building itself is magnificent, and by a weird twist of fate completely engulfed within a ghetto with crackheads walking around every which way. How the hell can anyone in Toledo appreciate anything of such caliber? Compelling to say the least.
Books, what’s that? The Toledo Blade is what people read here, and waste their pathetic lives talking about the Jeep plant on Sunday mornings. The grim landscape consists of broken down buildings, boarded up crackhouses, little barn churches on every street corner, and random piles of filth (usually with a crackhead wearing a red hat rummaging through it). I can’t fathom having a life here; gloomy, depressing, poor, dumbed down way of existing. I crack a smile every time I hear of people “living it up” around here, a bunch of buffoons who have never been anywhere in their life. It’s sad really because you can’t even explain it to them, they won’t get it. Those who have seen the least marvel the most at NOTHING and Toledo is a whole bunch of NOTHING.
Ohio is full of people who have failed at life. If you didn’t go to college you are screwed, because you will be stuck at a dead end job there making ends meat for $10/hour or working at some factory job like a moron. It’s the only state where you will see a lawn-care “company” sticker on every beat up rusted truck, if not that than construction. Every high school drop out starts a construction company here, what the hell the whole state looks like a giant pot hole! Cutting grass and building roofs thats all these rednecks do, and usually very bad at that. No work in Ohio? No shit, every dumbass is bringing the state down by merely existing here. How can a state full of idiots ever make anything of itself? The educated doctors and lawyers live in their own circles and hire workers from out of state. Ohio=pathetic.
Out of the complete state of Ohio, Toledo us by far the nastiest, ugliest and most depressing city
to be in. I have been around the world, and even in 3rd world countries people have more class and
culture than the inbreeds of Toledo.
The weather sucks; freezing for 4 months, hot as hell for 3 months, muck, sleet, rain for the
remaining time of year. Sure there are a few very nice neighborhoods, but you’re still surrounded
by shit and dirt anywhere you go so it doesn’t even matter in the grand theme of things. You have
gated community’s right next to trailer parks and they all must coexist. I have come here with
hopes of staying for a few years for school and can’t wait to get the hell out, anywhere but this
hellhole.
Its funny how many people mention the lack of intelligence, culture, manners, and general intellect
in this part of the country. It really is true; people here “go out” to Olive Garden on Fridays
and think they are experiencing Italian cuisine, ahaha! Hate to break it to you but THERE IS
NOTHING CULTURAL OR SOPHISTICATED in Toledo or Ohio, their so called high end restaurants are
shanties anywhere else in Europe, an average Toledoen is a caveman when it comes to literature or
anything ethos related.
The great irony is the spectacular Toledo Museum of art, which is full of splendor. The building
itself is magnificent, and by a weird twist of fate completely engulfed within a ghetto with
crackheads walking around every which way. How the hell can anyone in Toledo appreciate anything
of such caliber? Compelling to say the least.
Books, what’s that? The Toledo Blade is what people read here, and waste their pathetic lives
talking about the Jeep plant on Sunday mornings. The grim landscape consists of broken down
buildings, boarded up crackhouses, little barn churches on every street corner, and random piles of
filth (usually with a crackhead wearing a red hat rummaging through it). I can’t fathom having a
life here; gloomy, depressing, poor, dumbed down way of existing. I crack a smile every time I
hear of people “living it up” around here, a bunch of buffoons who have never been anywhere in
their life. It’s sad really because you can’t even explain it to them, they won’t get it. Those
who have seen the least marvel the most at NOTHING and Toledo is a whole bunch of NOTHING.
I say ditto and amen to the previous posters. I couldn’t have said it better myself. Ohio is a dump, a joke ,and a garbage state. I’m 23 and I’m prayerfully getting outta here by the end of the year. I’m not wasting anymore of my precious 20’s in this piece of crap state,and to make things worst, I live in Cincinnati of all places,,yuck..I hate this trashbag ass city..
nobody in ohio gives a shit, they go to crummy jobs every day, come home drink bud light sit on the couch watching sports that nobody else cares about and complain complain and complain some more. most unfriendly, uneducated, self absorbed people in the world. every low class ohio family has someone who is fat, full of tattoos and drinks cheap beer, pathetic. oh and do forget loser adults who are college sport fanatics. what the hell is wrong with people in ohio?
I’ve never been to Cincy. Is it really that bad?
Yes Jerold,It is that bad, about as bad as Toledo,and I’m outta here asap. This place isn’t gonna suck me into a mediocre and crappy lifestyle. There’s nothing to do here ,asbsolutely NO JOBS that pay good wages for college grads like myself and others, it’s like nobody even cares about education. The whole situation with Ohio and Shiti-nati all together is bullsh@t..and I’m not gonna take it,and neither should anyone else that actually has sense enough to know this place frikin sucks.
I totally agree with all of you, especially Toledo Hick. He hit the nail on the head about Toledo. I’m so glad I moved, I don’t know what to do. I encourage all of you to do the same. Leave before it makes you old, cynical, and empty(emotionally and financially). Toledo is definately no place for any forward thinking human being to reside. You won’t make any REAL friends, just carbon copies of the idiot you just dodged before. You won’t really find any career opportunities outside of call centers, factories(that are dying), or hospitals(if you know someone). You won’t meet your wife, unless you dig chain smoking women with yellow teeth, bad breath, body odor, and no ambition in life other than to have a baby from a lot of trailer and project felons. Ladies, you won’t find a husband unless you dig trailer or project felons with 5 baby’s mammas. You won’t find much of anything in Toledo other than the Art Museum or the Mudhens. Other than that, if you don’t like OSU, NASCAR, or the Browns/Lions…you’re a leper to them. Good luck to all!!!
LOL this was some funny honest post!
Did everybody know that Ohio has the lowest prices on houses, maybe because no one smart enough will live there and the Highway Patrol suck donkey
You are all a bunch of losers. Life in any state is what you make it. I am glad you have left because we don’t need losers. PS the coastal states bite.
Well I better behave with crazy chucky loose.
What a classic line, know you leave and get bent.
O I’m sorry chucky, did I save leave Ohio
No stay the fk there, LOSER ! LOL!
Wow, at least Ohio has the largest in-door water park in the U.S.
That kinda offends me, I’ve lived in Ohio my whole life. I can stand all the queer people at my school (They act STRANGE). Us Ohioans get pissed off easy. I’d say probably the worst state Would be Louisiana ATM. I AM NOT OFFENDING ANYONE ON PURPOSE.
Yea, and basically the teachers have awesome senses of humor in my school. I just come home after school and play Doom 3. not scary at all :confused: LOL. I feel sorry for anyone who is afraid of this game, except for the British who are pussies. Brave Heart powned. I bet you all that Brave Heart could win Doom 3 in less than 20 hours; because Brave Hearts courage makes up for his lack of knowledge
I was transferred to Columbus 3 years ago from San Fransisco, and I agree. Ohio sucks, the people suck. How can you be snobby and be FROM and live in Columbus, OH??? Did I mention the food.. What a joke. It sucks too. The Ohioans love their White Castle and Wendy’s. And they hate you if you don’t like it or if you HATE their Buckeye’s. Try the pizza, It’s cut into these tiny little “squares” that you have to hold between your thumb and finger. Its like a cardboard crust, reminds me of frozen pizza. Mmmmm delicious Columbus, Oh cuisine..:) The Ohioans love it. It is so fuckin shitty weird here.. Can’t wait to leave and get the fuck out of this nightmare and away from the Ohioans.
LMAO!!! Columbus. Buckeye capital of the world. Nuff said.
COLUMBUS Ohio sucks cause number one they have no beaches trailor trash people that have issues half the people are crack heads and have diabetes the lakes are dirty who wants to swim in a lake theres always a shooting there they have nothing to do there and small minded rednecks i’m telling you dont live in ohio and they cut there pizzas wrong little square size bits there resturants arent that great OHIO IS REALY DEPRESSING
COLUMBUS Ohio sucks cause number one they have no beaches trailor trash people that have issues half the people are crack heads and have diabetes the lakes are dirty who wants to swim in a lake theres always a shooting there they have nothing to do there and small minded rednecks i’m telling you dont live in ohio and they cut there pizzas wrong little square size bits there resturants arent that great OHIO IS REALY DEPRESSING AND THEY ALSO HAVE LOTS OF CHILD MOLESTERS THERE THATS ONE OF THE LARGEST STATE THAT HAVE CHILD MOLESTERS OR PEDIFILES
My name is Bubba, that’s the name of every other hick here in Sandusky, OH. We have a middle school called Briar Middle School…another name for a Appalachian Migrant Hick. We of course have Cedar Point, which attracts the purists of Michigan white trash as well as our own. The water parks attract even more trash that considers a weekend getaway “this years family vacation.” If you are a townie, everybody knows everybody here. The girlfriend you just met that you think is so great, has already been fucked by the half the people at the bar you are about to visit. If you are bothered by that don’t be, it’s supposed to be accepted in Sandusky’s culture. There are nothing but cliques here. People with no personality and fat girls that think they are hot. Working Womens Wednesday’s at Cabana Jacks means chicks that are so fat they can’t wear shoes…they’ll be soaking up the bar piss with the cotton socks. Anywhere you go you hear the same old OSU chants. Half the retards that are yelling it never went there. Fuck OHIO. Fuck Santucky, OH. I don’t want another girl here that I have to explain to her why it’s wrong to cheat on me. I don’t want to hear Hang on Sloopy anymore. I don’t want to date inside the Circles of Grossness anymore. Fuck CoCo Beanos, coverband crap. FUCK OHIO! Sandusky blows!
Pharmacist will ALWAYS have a job here selling the antidepressants!
I’ve been in Toledo, OH for 2 years now, and this town without a doubt blows ass. I’m currently in school, and I’ve put in for a transfer last week. I can’t wait to get the fuck out of Ohio. I hate these cliquey, wierd assed crackheads. Toledo is a big pile of crap. I’m so tired of hearing about OSU, going to sportsbars, and talking to some of the FATTEST women you will ever meet. I kid you not. I’m tired of the detatched, depressed, mean spirit of these people. They act like assholes and think that its cool. They go out of their way to make you feel left out of anything. They love to make you feel bad for being single without kids. They love to talk behind your back. I’m so sick of it. There is nothing cultural about Toledo. Perrysburg is the “high end” pocket of this shithole, and it’s nothing but a trailer park with big houses around it. Yet, the people here act really snotty, as if Perrysburg were Beverly Hills. I laugh when I see that. The women here are either fat and slutty, or skinny, cigarrette burned whores…both of which with bad breath and yellow teeth. Ohio is just a nice way of saying Kentucky/West Virginia/insert any redneck southern state. I promise you that the people in Toledo are more redneck than Jeff Foxworthy. There is nothing affluent about Toledo (Detroit,Jr.) It’s just a big trailer park. Dirty, slummy, shitty, white trash city. Not to mention…very uneducated. Fuck Ohio!
Jerold,
I was interested in your comment about having a “vast circle of real friends” in MN. That’s been the 2nd worst (and sometimes the worst) thing about living in Ohio. As soon as I had money at 18 I was surrounded by people scheming and scamming to get their hands on it. It’s been so bad over the past 25 years that I sometimes have to fight an atavistic urge to punch people in the nose.
Of course, you can have this problem anywhere but here in my city I stick out like a sore thumb.
Glad to hear you’ve settled on a better place and wish me luck getting out of the hell and purgatory of Ohio.
Hey earlthepearl,
I totally agree with you about Ohioans. They are mooches. I know that Toledoans won’t even talk to you unless they can use you. If they can’t, you’re outta here. I was there for 2 years, Earl…2 years and NO ONE said one word to me. I patronized the same coffee shop downtown for the whole time I was there, and the attendants were still very unfriendly to me. Not even at church, which Toledoans pride themselves on being God fearing christian folk with good, wholesome values. Toledo is exactly how you describe Columbus. It just sucks alot more. Thanx, by the way…Minneapolis is lovely. I’m actually around people who love life, and love making people around them happy. I wish you all the best in getting out of O-HELL-O!
Most of you people come off as very strange to me. I came across this after looking for Jobs in Cincinnati, Ohio,where I live. I don’t really go outside of Cincinnati for anything, but give me a break. Someone said people from Ohio cut their PIZZA wrong??? Their PIZZA!!! It’s laughable. I am not going to get on here and bash these other people saying that they dislike Ohio.They can have their Opinions, but the World does not need anymore Pessimists. Do something better with your time than write out long essays on the internet,including every possible horrible thing you can imagine up to say that could hurt people on purpose.Say,like, Calling people rednecks,white trash, moochers. I am so incredibly sure that you know all of the people in the State of Ohio.That’s amazing!!!! A young girl I attended school with did not have any complaints about Cincinnati,Ohio.She came here from RUSSIA, to the Drake Center for her Burns. An Ohio family took her in and cared for her like she was their own.And who paid for her chance to have the best medical care at Drake??? The State of Ohio. Just get a life and do good with your words, rather than being ugly.You should have been raised well enough to have been taught, IF you do not have anything nice to say, DON’T SAY IT ( or type it) AT ALL! Now, back to researching Careers in Cincy…..Oh, and I’m not looking for a job at Wal-Mart which someone referred to as being a main career choice for “Ohioans”, I’m looking to fill a position as a pediatric nurse.
ORLANDO FLORIDA SUCKS!!!
“YUMMY!
An Orlando woman went to a gas station for a snack, but what she got was anything but appetizing. She said she found bugs crawling across her Hershey’s bar and videotaped the proof. The candy bar wasn’t the only one covered with insects bought at the Chevron gas station at Marks Street and Mills Avenue near downtown Orlando. When Eyewitness News got involved with the case, the Florida Department of Agriculture did, too.”
First MOTHER OF THE YEAR candidate for 2008
A Central Florida mother was arrested Friday, accused by authorities of leaving her 3-year-old in a locked vehicle with the windows rolled up while she shopped at a flea market. Vangmee Pha Lee, 24, of Clermont, faces one count of aggravated child abuse and two counts of child neglect after the child was left alone in a vehicle at Flea World, in Sanford, for about 30 minutes, according to the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office. According to a sheriff’s report, deputies were dispatched to Flea World and discovered the child in a red Honda in the parking lot. The child was holding an empty water bottle and was sweating profusely with a dazed look on his face, the report stated.
FIRST HEADLINE OF 2008! -
An apparently random punch at an Orlando restaurant has turned into the city’s first homicide of the year, according to police. Investigators said Thomas Oglesby, 25, was at the Wing Shack on Michigan Street early Saturday when he was punched for no apparent reason by another man. Oglesby collapsed in the restaurant and died several hours later at the hospital. NICE!!!
Lets start off by getting to know the average Orlando resident. He looks something like one of these people. Scofflaws, nere-do-wells, rouges, cads, urchins.. those are just a few of the types of people who would be scared to walk our streets at night!
Remember, the Bible said “love thy neighbor”.. I’m sure God didn’t know he was going to be one of these guys.
That’s great right? These will be the people you see where ever you go in Orlando, they will be beside you at the movies, in line with you at the grocery store… their omnipresence will be inescapable.
Sure, sure, beauty is only skin deep. Believe me the people you meet in Orlando will be ugly on the inside too. Even in what is known as the service industry (restaurants/hotels) you will meet people that Ripley would have LOVED to pickle in a jar.
Orlando had more murders in 2006 than you could shake a stick at, a big blood dripping murdering stick. And 2007 is on pace to obliterate those numbers. Did you know that? Well you do now.. it’s a lot like the old west here, if you step out of your house/apartment/condo after dark your taking your life in your own hands. Then if you get inside a car, WOW, you do have gonads don’t you.
Anyway, on this page you can peruse Orange County Jail mug shots, see the latest Amber Alerts, look over a live feed of the Orlando Sentinel crime blog, find useful Orlando crime links.. and most importantly you can read my highly important opinion about the current state of affairs in Orlando! Oh, and if you came straight to this page from a search engine I would encourage you to check out the rest of the site, this is just the tip of a giant brown disgusting ice burg.
Orlando Florida Weather
Anyone who has ever been here or watched the news knows that Orlando weather SUCKS! I mean, 3 hurricanes in a row… cut us some slack God! Haven’t you tortured us enough with toll roads, must you smite us with hurricanes too?
In the summer months you can count on rain almost every day, not a lot.. just enough to ruin a vacation or two. When it’s not raining the temperature is about 92 degrees. Perfect if you want to cook a Chihuahua in an 84 Honda Civic.. but not good for much else. Oh and did I mention that when it DOESN’T rain the forest is ALWAYS going to be on fire somewhere and the air will be full of smoke for weeks at a time? We have to smell that stink EVERY summer. Did we learn nothing from Smoky the Bear?
During hurricane season we can count on one tropical storm after another in the gulf. They are frequent enough to cause long lines at the gas station at least once a week.. and I’m afraid to even buy frozen food anymore. When we had those three hurricanes back to back they were handing out “food stamp” credit cards at the Orlando convention center because so many people lost all their food! That is not a joke, it’s the truth.
If your reading this and thinking of moving here YOUR NUTS! During our “winter” it will be 35 one day and 80 the next.. that’s REAL convenient. This is the only state I have lived in where I have to step outside to see if I need a long coat or a speedo to go shopping!
2008 starts with a BANG! – The Florida Highway Patrol warned drivers to stay off the roads Thursday morning, because driving conditions were as bad if not worse than Wednesday morning. I-4 was closed for a 14-mile stretch in both east and westbound directions and was expected to remain closed for an indefinite time. Crews tried to work through the night, Wednesday, to repair a stretch of I-4 damaged in a fiery 70 car pile-up, but had to suspend their efforts when more fog and smoke filled the air and construction crews could not see. Florida and local officials said four people were killed and 38 were injured in the mangled, fiery wrecks. The blazes left what amounted to a 650-foot wide hole in the interstate that will have to be repaired before the roadway can be reopened. Authorities thought if all went well, there was a possibility that could happen by mid-morning Thursday, but they weren’t making any promises. The damage was most significant in the eastbound lanes. Diesel fuel spilled during the crash which softened and damaged the interstate.
AND IT STARTED WITH A CONTROLLED BURN!
Ok, I know traffic sucks everywhere.. but TRUST ME, no where
is as bad as Orlando! I say a prayer every time I get behind the
wheel. People here DON’T CARE if they hit you. I don’t know if
it’s because they all drive tiny Hondas that are worthless or if it’s
because they are from a country where people ride in hay carts.
Scientists have been studying the traffic patterns
of the 84 Honda and this is what they have found…
Well I couldn’t leave this out.. the jobs in Orlando Florida. Thousands of people move here every year with stars in their eyes hoping to work at the Orlando theme parks. What I really mean is Disney, I don’t recall ever seeing anyone with stars in their eyes wanting to work at Universal. The bottom line is working at Disney gets old REAL QUICK. Disney pays almost nothing and the hours will KILL YOU. They expect you to work constantly even if you work there part time?!? The tourists (Disney wants you to call them “guests”) will treat you like crap, and you will make a whopping $6.35 an hour. Even with all that hundreds of people enter the Disney casting center every day looking for a Disney job??
Disney College Program
If you have stumbled across my page because you are coming here for the Disney College Program let me fill you in. You will be living in Vista Way which is a ratty old apartment complex that should have been torn down years ago. Disney is going to take 75% of each check for “rent” while you are here. You will be packed in a 3 bedroom apartment with 5 other “CPs”. Yes you heard me right, 2 people per bedroom in the smallest beds you have ever seen. You better work all your hours or your check could be “0″ or NEGATIVE!
If you are here during the 3 month term that runs through the holidays your in for a special treat, not only will you work around the clock but you will witness people crying in the “tunnels” of the Magic Kingdom because they have never been away from their families before at Christmas. The only “upside” to your whole stay here is that Vista Way is basically a modern “Sodom and Gomorrah”, with drunken parties every night and sex between people who have known each other for 5 minutes. If your a parent reading this and your son/daughter is going to be in this program I really don’t know what to tell you.. I have witnessed this stuff first hand, this is not speculation. To be fair a lot of people who have been through it must have LOVED it because they move here and go to work at Disney full time. If you google it you can find a LOT of pages of people who can’t talk about any thing BUT the college program.. they were probably the drunk ones having sex the whole time.
The hotels and restaurants are the same way.. no pay and grueling work. You will at least have REAL benefits working for one of them. No point in making friends though.. everyone you work with will quit or be fired with in a week. They quit because they find some place that will pay them .05 more an hour, or offers a free sandwich per shift.
Just who you want teaching your kids!
This pot growing teacher is a great role model.
A former Titusville elementary teacher caught growing marijuana plants in her home will serve two years of probation after pleading guilty to manufacturing the drug, court records show.
Heather Ovalles, 36, was a first-year teacher at Oak Park Elementary when police said they stumbled upon the drug operation while searching for Ovalles’ ex-boyfriend, Shawn Creamer, following a December 2006 shooting rampage at the Great Outdoors RV Park and Golf Resort outside Titusville, Local 6 News partner Florida Today reported.
In a quest to confront another ex-girlfriend who lived at the resort, Creamer killed a security guard and his ex’s friend before turning the gun on himself, police said.
While questioning Ovalles, police said they discovered an “elaborate grow house” in the woman’s Titusville home, which included a room equipped with special lights and ventilation devices used to cultivate 56 marijuana plants.
ORLANDO FLORIDA—-FLORIDA IN GENERAL—–SUCKS!!!!!!
I live in Perrysburg, OH. I don’t know about the rest of the people here, but I think that Ohio is garbage. I am here because of my job, which I’m about to quit because of the lifestyle and the overall atomosphere here. I just graduated from Bowling Green, and I hated it there as well. To Elizabeth…Ohio sucks, and you know it. I read your post, and I must admit…you aren’t looking at this outside of your own eyes. Ohioans are mean. I thought that they were friendly, until I got totally backstabbed by them at my job. Now, I know that backstabbing happens outside of Ohio, but here…everyone is like that. There are no friends or relationships to be had here. My ex-boyfriend was very phallocentric, and he had such a right wing agenda for our relationship. There was no equality, just Republican dominance. Toledo, OH is a mess of a city. It’s sad really, as the people are really unaware of any better way of life. I’m originally from Chicago, so this is all new and wierd to me. I’m hoping to go out west, because I think the midwest and east coast as a whole are just plain mean and disgusting. No dreaming or ambition. Toledoans are some of the wierdest and cliqueiest people I’ve ever seen. Not to mention…MEAN!!! And don’t stick up for Cinncinati…I’ve been to the jazz fest…and they are still mean. Ohio is harsh…don’t ever come here…EVER!!!
I’ve been stuck in this hellhole of a state for over 30 years ever since my stepdad and one of his coworkers were transferred up here from Florida by the company they worked for. His coworker realized what a shithole this state was and fled back to Florida in less then three months. We moved into our house and the first thing our neighbor said was not to blow your nose on a street corner because it will be in the local paper the next week. I have NEVER lived in a state where everybody wants to stick there nose into YOUR business. Amazingly the company he worked for fired him years later, stating they were “downsizing”, but then hired two younger guys half his age to replace him. I advised him to sue for age discrimination but “I don’t want to sue a company that has been good to me for the last 20 years” was his response. He and my mom went from state to state doing various jobs till the finally settled in Tennessee where they absolutely love it. So thanks for ditching me in this fucked up state where I have watched my job pay go from second highest in the county to what is now the lowest. And now another company is hiring part timers at a higher pay rate then what I make working full time. This state blows big round donkey balls! Thanks for ditching me in a state where I have watched my taxes go higher and higher to where in 7 years my house payment has gone up over $200 a month because of all the bullshit taxes tacked on to “maintain” services….this from a city and state that took FOUR years to patch a pothole on my street that eventually became the size of a small crater on the moon…even though I had called and bitched about it constantly. Thanks for ditching me in a state where I see my security light come on and look out a window to see kids attempting to break into my car and watched as they moved down the street attempting to break into more cars, call the cops, give them a description of what they’re wearing and watch as they drive right by them. And after I chase down the cop car and asked them why they didn’t detain them because they “told us they’re just out for a walk” and after I asked for their names and told them I wanted to speak with their commanding officer RIGHT NOW did they turn around and go after the kids and watched as the kids were hightailing it down the road…and then said since they didn’t actually break into my car they couldn’t do anything. So thanks for leaving me in such a fucked up, lazy ass state to the point where when I’m driving over a bridge, I’d just as soon drive OFF of it!
I dont give a crap what anybody says. Shitinati (Cincinnati) is hot garbage, and I’m getting the hell outta here. You can sit up here and stick up for it, and act like it’s paradise all you want, but I know the truth. This place (Shitinati) is horrid, depressing, and just a straight up shit-hole. No self-loving young individual (like myself and many others) would stay here.So fuck Ohio (O-hello-O), fuck Shitinati (Cincinnati) and anybody else who is to dumb to realize that this place has NOTHING to offer, but ragadey ass people and a pathetic mediocre lifestyle. I’m Out.
#1 reason why ohio DOESNT suck, because IM HERE!!!!
I don’t mean to bitch into everyone’s “good” opinion but, that’s what all this commotion was about? Some statement that Ohio sucks at electing? How in the hell did all these comments spark from that? >:(
One other thing. Why the fuck would people live in Ohio if it sucked? Let me guess, not enough room. Some people should be wondering, “Oh, I wonder why Ohio has the FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME!”
Retarded survey says, “because it sucks.”
I just looked and there’s actually more articles on the subject that California sucks. Go look it up for yourself. Type in “California sucks”
Someone shoot me please! Why does Ohio suck? Well for starters I have three strikes against me when trying to date here in this putrid state. Im white, im educated, and I have a job. All of
these things make you unworthy of these stupid bitches here. The bigger the loser the more attractive you are to these passed around bitches. The ignorance here is second to none, the politicians are idiots, and your required to have served time to be worthy of getting laid. Anybody born here with any brains gets the hell out as soon as possible. Thomas Edison for instance, the light went off in his head and he got the hell out of here. If the social life here isnt enough to make you vomit, just visit one of these lovely cities. Toledo is the arm pit of America and Cleveland is the crotch. If God hates you and you find yourself in one of these hell holes, just take a look around, it speakes for itself. Ive spoke with people from just about every state in the union and all of them ask the same question. What the hell is wrong with people from there? Its like there is this ignorant loser stench that Ohio people carry around. Maybe its in the water. Winston Churchill one said, “if your going through hell, keep going.” My advice if your traveling through Ohio dont stop just keep going!
Amen to that ,Fish, I couldn’t have said it better..
Fish. Excellent comment. It sounds like you have been niggarachied many times in your experience of living in this shithole. Just do yourself a favor and get the hell out. This whole area is conducive to the uneducated, unwashed masses that prowl the streets. I loved that comment posted earlier about the rusted out pick up trucks that are lawn service mobiles. Hilarious. It is all so overwhelming and scary too. It’s like, this is the direction our country is heading into. I think of the movie I AM LEGEND with Will Smith when I think of Ohio. I am trying to find a cure and other people that aren’t like this somewhere else. Eventually all of these assholes will penetrate into the existing colony of educated, smart folks, that want to do something in life. I feel like telling tons of kids around here that they will never be 50 Cent, so stop acting like him. I don’t think that 50 fucks fat white bitches either. Even though they cracked my ass up, I never got my job acting like Beavis. It looks like another night of looking at porn and job hunting again. Please God help us all.
Hey Fish, the same goes if you’re black and well educated with a good job. I lived in Toledo for 2 years, my man. Let me tell you. Unless you are a trailer or project fellon…you have no hope of getting a woman there. You don’t want one there anyway. They all are baby mamas who love to make baby daddies out of those losers guys and live in mediocre, pathetic lifestyles. I’ve gotten a lot of those questions about Ohioans as well. I don’t think it’s color or race as much as it is just plain character and ambition that turns these women off. Ohio women are a bunch of stinky booties!!!
I must agree with Jerold that Ohio is the navel lint of the United States and the evil tendrils of it’s pervasive mediocrity affect all it’s poor and downtrodden citizens regardless of race, creed ,color or religion.
To see the long-term effects of exposure to the Ohio spore one need only watch the former Mayor of Cincinnati-Jerry Springer on daytime TV. Sad, what Ohio can do to a promising political career.
I am in my sixties, born and raised in Ohio,was mistreated and beat up all my young life here because I was a small bespeckled man, an easy target for the strong, good looking,and financially well off,I quit high schoolat the end of my junior year to save mt life, as was beat up and humiliated so much,I flunked most of my studies. Teachers, Police everyone had the same small town attatude,had to be big, strong,have money, or you were Nothing but a punching bag to them, no rights at all, I moved to California by myself, with tears in my eyes, swearing I would NEVER come back to this Backward state ever again.
OH I came back 3 times with my tail between my legs because I was starving to death, NO Education means little if any work, and minimum wage, I managed to stay in California untill nov 1992, decided to move to Florida, because injuries to my body doing HEAVY work my small body was never ment to do Caused me Back problems.
I lived close to my older Brother there, got a bad leg injury,lost a business I had there and most of my money,my Father died in Ohio, I decided to move back there and Live in my Elderly Mothers home, to take the strain off of my older Sister that comes there to help her….Only reason I am in this BACKWARD, HATEFUL SCREWED up state is because I live here cheap,and have a mother and sister that depends on me, I hate OHIO
but am stuck here untill my mother passes on, she may out live ME, My Sister owes me $ 37,000 as I paid her home off so she will not be out on the street, because of the Home Forclosure problems ..
Yes I could write a book on How OHIO screwed my life up big time…maybe you will not agree with me, as you know nothing about my life, except a few lines I printed here, BUT believe me, have been to 40 of the 50 states and over seas, NO WHERE are the people as RUDE and Hateful as OHIO.
To Jerold:
Anyway, it sounds like Ohio sucks as usual. I saw my friend from college that is out in Cleveland (a.k.a. C-town, crap town) and he has told me that he wants to leave because he feels that it’s gotten old. He wants to see if he can come back to the NYC. So, you are right if you move there stay for at most 6 months while you save your funds and then leave forever.
How’s Minnapolis, MN treating you? I think that is wonderful. Just don’t let the Vikings Beat my Giants
To Elizibeth Brinkley:
You try and glamorize your name with the model Chirstly Brinkley. Yeah right you are probably a skinny lady with yellow stained teeth and crappy breath who tries to make herself look great where if you were in NYC nobody would talk to you. Besides quit defending your town when you know it sucks. And quit smoking the OSU Bumblef*#keye Crank.
To What Ohio:
You tell that lady off. Great Job telling it like it is.
To the rest on the board that are saying why this state sucks:
Keep on going with that and tell the public about the hell hole.
To the Defenders:
Again Quit smoking the OSU Bumblef*&keye Crank and Meth and get real lifes, travel, and learn to live life and be more open minded. Or else die broke you stupid blokes.
Nuff Said.
To Brian: I feel you on having pizza that tasted like cardboard. I went to college in Maryland and it tasted like cardboard. My point is this, I am from the New York area and if you want great pizza come to the east coast. Particulary NYC like Ray’s in SoHo or in myarea of Westchester County where the pizza is real and not that generic crap like Pizza Hut. I visited Ohio back in 2006 and I thought it was plain and lame. I was in Akron and went down Market Street and saw nothing but Restaurants. And they were comercial restaurants nothing authentic. So, I feel your pain. So do what you can and escape. Seriously. To the rest of the board, who hates Ohio, find a way and leave just like Jerold did.
Nuff Said
Hey, I checking out PrimeTime tonight on NBC on Child Sex Slavery. IT takes place in Toledo, Ohio And one of the places it reported was a girl identified as “Kim” gets kidnapped by a Derick Willoghby a pimp. It even said that Toledo, OH is a hot bed for that crap. Oh man that town sucks the big one when your town has Fat Women, Stupid people, Trailer Park and Project Felons, and just waste. Man OHIO REALLY SUCKS THE BIG ONE WHEN YOU HAVE PEDIFILES RUNNING YOUR AREA. OH MAN I AM SOOOOOO GLAD I LIVE IN NEW YORK AND I NEVER RE-LOCATED TO THE BUMBLEF*3KEYE STATE.
OHIO SUCKS!!!!!!
Opps I meant this show tonight was on ABC Primetime. NBC is Dateline. Sorry for the error. But that is sick and it shows what a LOSER STATE OHIO IS!!!! OHIO SUCKS
It shows you also how Toledo sucks when an actual kidnapping is a low priourty to Toledo Police. This is in relation to this show on ABC tonight on Prime Time. All they probably cared about was pulling over inoccent people (minorities and opened minded people) to make their quotas, and checking out their football fantsaies drooling on the Ohio State BumbleF*&keyes.
Again Ohio Sucks and needs to be nuked!!!!!!!
is there a lawyer out their that can handle a case ,,,,no 15 minute breaks no lunch breaks 9 years !!!!!!!!!sundanceswampfox@gmail.com —-2 other hosers 1 foot in grave so hurry
Maybe the whole world sucks, life is fubar and what we all need is a zoloft and Margarita.
Ohio sucks really really bad, especially Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Toledo. But being from Cleveland, I don’t think it could get worse anywhere else in this country. I really do mean that and I will stand by it. First off the OSU thing that many people on here have seen eye to eye with me and I thought I was the only one. Ohio State are thee most annoying bunch of sports fans I have ever seen. They are bandwagon fans because they think they have to root for them just because they live in Ohio. Not the case. They are cry babies and will probably take it out on everyone else or won’t shut up the rest of the day if they lose, especially to Michigan. What really grinds my gears is their infamous “O-H…I-O” chant or saying that they think is the sweetest thing ever. That is so gay and if I hear that again even when I am not in Columbus, I will go grab a shovel and bury myself in the ground. Shut up already, we heard you the first 100 times.
I don’t even like that university in general. It was one of the colleges I visited. The tour guides, administration, admissions people, could not have been any more rude and unhelpful. Hell I am from Ohio, lived here my whole life, all 23 years and I never really worshiped OSU or was that into it as others. I even like Penn State better honestly. Ohio State is overrated, always has been, chokes against big named schools, has terrible graduation rates in their athletic department, bottom 3 in the Big Ten since 2000 to be exact.
Then there is Browns fans. While most people from Northern Ohio are Browns fans, there are a lot of Steelers fans that pop up. Lots of built up hostility wherever you find Browns fans. They aren’t the smartest and heck neither is the coaching staff. But the Steelers beat the Browns 7 consecutive games and 16 of the last 18 but they still talk crap about how the Steelers suck and can’t get it that it’s the Browns that suck. They talk crap and don’t realize how stupid they are for what they say. All Cleveland sports teams suffer losing records, high volume of injuries, turnover in personnel too often, and never winning a championship of any kind. Makes things more depressing to live around here when the sports teams don’t help. Could be the reason for the high volume of drunks in Ohio. Don’t be surprised to live a block away from an AA member, or be surprised to see a depressing person walking back from a gas station with a 12 pack of Natty Light at 11 AM on a Sunday morning.
While on that subject, people in Ohio don’t know what good beer is. Go out to California or out west and people won’t be drinking Natty Light, Milwaukee’s Best, or Keystone. Job growth isn’t getting any better. Forbes.com ranked Cleveland dead last out of 50 major metropolitan cities in job growth. New Orleans being 1st of course because of the hurricane. The liberal mayors and conservative governors of Ohio ruined things in the last 25 years. The Cleveland school systems are among the worst in the country and most U.S. citizens actually know this, that’s sad. If you sell your home in Ohio, you won’t get even close to what its value is. Take a loss and move on. The rates are now -16% from asking price on average. Cost of living is decent but that’s because there is nothing to attract business to come here outside of Columbus.
There are hardly any full-time jobs here. It’s an employer’s market. I recommend to move somewhere where it’s an employee’s market. Lots of part-time jobs though. Everything is sales, labor, bar-tending, and serving tables. After all, Ohioans like to eat, drink alcohol, smoke, bitch about everything, and nothing else. Shit gets old fast. If you do happen to find a decent job, you will get underpaid as long as you work in Ohio. I know someone who has an advertising job for Home Depot in Atlanta, GA. She gets paid $60,000+. If you had an Advertising job in Ohio, you would get $35-$40,000 and not even reach $60,000 by retirement. And there are a ton of rednecks around here, even in Akron and Cleveland for some reason. And that’s funny because I could have sworn Ohio is in the Midwest. NASCAR, alcohol, and OSU football solve all their problems. We have already established the weather opinions in other posts. I share them all.
There are a few other things I wanted to mention about Ohio. The majority of the restaurants or bars you go to, whether it be Cleveland, Cincinnati, or Toledo, because I have been to a few in all of the cities from visiting friends, the service is subpar and people just don’t give a damn. They have that attitude that if they do the bare minimum they will get tipped, or no matter what they do, the people won’t complain anyway. I am not afraid to complain about service in restaurants or not give a tip. Don’t ever go to a Bob Evans, Denny’s, or IHOP in Toledo and don’t ever go to an Olive Garden, TGI Fridays, or a Max & Ermas in Cincinnati. Just from personal experience, they serve you on their own schedule rather than yours. And there a handful of restaurants in Cleveland with exceptional service but they only seem to have that during lunch for the some reason. Also don’t be surprised if you see a group of women get better service than a group of men at a restaurant in the Cleveland area. It’s true.
I have been to San Francisco and Myrtle Beach on spring breaks, the service at restaurants and bars were phenomenal. In SF, I ordered 3 long islands and they were made in like 20 seconds. In Cleveland, most bartenders I’ve come across, which are like all women for some reason, send texts to their friends, do some flirting with older men, or talk to their girl friends about how good their boyfriend is in bed before they serve you. A few times I waited 5 minutes to get served after I sat down at a bar and there was like 2 other people there. They wouldn’t let all this crap happen in SF or Myrtle Beach.
About beaches, the ones in Ohio that someone on here claimed to be nice, are just rocks and sediments scrunched together and not real sand like in Myrtle Beach or Florida. Beaches in Florida blow away Mentor Headlands that people seem to be high on. I have family in Tampa so I’ve been there. Not to mention the majority of people on the beaches are under the age of 30 and not over the age of 40. There is a huge age gap of people here. Pittsburgh is the same. Lots of people late 50’s early 60’s, lots of early 30’s, and high school kids/teenagers. Cleveland has 4 seasons: Winter, long winter, still winter, road construction.
The young women here are either really thin or really fat. Families think it’s the norm here if your daughter is married at 21 or has a child before 23 or both. I didn’t see too many pregnant or married 21-23 year old women in SF, Myrtle Beach, and Tampa, FL and I got a good look. In Northeast Ohio, the majority of women ages 21-25 are either really overweight bar hoppers, mothers who aren’t married, smokers (some when they are still pregnant), aren’t college educated, sleeping with 3 different men, are huge OSU fans even though they don’t know a thing about football, and townies who’ve been here their whole life. It’s just depressing the way people look in Cleveland or Akron. Akron in particular is filled with degenerate, ugly, worthless people. I went to school there for 4 years. People in Northeast Ohio love to eat fast food, love to drink their alcohol on any given day of the week, and they love to smoke. Is that surprising? Well the American Heart Association ranked Ohio the 6th worst state in women’s heart health and 9th worst in men’s heart health in 2007. Get used it people.
Ohio just sucks sucks sucks sucks. Only thing keeping me here is my job. Hope to get enough saved then try to move for a better job and have a good life. I am 23, still got time. But I have no intentions of staying in Ohio. I’m considering Phoenix, Denver, Seattle, DC, or Chicago. I don’t want to be considered a fascist anarchist for not liking Ohio State anymore, I don’t want my intelligence to lower because of others idiots, and I actually want to live where there are things to do besides eating food and drinking alcohol.
Very good posts Ryan. I’m getting out of O-Hell-O as soon as possible. You and I are in the same boat. Ohio is the without a doubt the most disgusting pathetic piece of trash state in the country. Like I said before ,I’m not waisting my youth hear ,and I am saving to move as we speak. Cincinnati is a garbage ass town. There’s nothing here but uneducated trashy types w/ horrible attitudes. There are no decent jobs. I just can’t wait until I can move and actually live by a REAL beach.
Oh where do I start? What is it with all the ananalyzers and observers in Ohio. Everyone is so negative and hateful here.Its like everyone is in their own little clicks and if you talk to strangers just trying to be friendly, theyll observe you and then talk about you to whoever they are with. Why do you go to a store in the middle of November and it looks like everyone looks like mindless zombies walking around. Ohio is the most miserable place ever and I cant wait to leave. Its really great to live by the lake and never be able to swim in it. Only in Ohio rest stops can you find plastic jugs hanging on a metal clothes hanger to catch falling liquid soap. Enuf said. The weather here is great I dont even know why summer even bothers happening anymore it just makes fall and winter so much worse.People are so bloated and crabby and act like big constipated babies here. Ohio is a big giant mcdonalds full of slimy unhealthy smelly ignorant lazy obnoxious fat people that like to complain about everything. And the yellow and red just matches 1970s primary color ohio sooo well.Yeah so Ohio has cedar point. Wow its a park you can only go to 4 months out of the year and their is nothing cool around it. hey lets just put an amusement park in the middle of nothing. And lets hire people who have no personalities and hate life. And lets never remodel the park and still have tables that are from the seventies.its just so strange here , so strange. But okay if you are from ohio and
And yet people always say that West Virginia is nothing but backwards white trash hill rats. My advice to these people spend a long period of time in Ohio it’s like stepping into the twilight zone.
I have analyzed the depression you are all experiencing and it’s the fact you are not self-actualized in Ohio and need to make the next step into another career, furthering your education and finally or firstly relocating away from the trailer.
There are a lot of very backwards folks you have to rub elbows with in these here parts and they do tend to drag you down and sap all the energy you need to launch out of here.
Funny thing is, all those same fine upstanding Buckeye fans will climb all over themselves to tell you how great it is…why we have Walmart here in Beavershit,Ohio!*belch*fart*
I agree 100% with everyone who has a gripe with Ohio. I lived there for 10 years in the Toledo area, and man did it depress the hell out of me. Earlthepearl was right about how the people will suck out the ambition to try to move and relocate anywhere else. I was in a relationship with a native Toledo girl for most of the time I was there, and all her friends and family would say is that “Ya’ll should git murried, have some yungins, and live like proper folk.” I kid you not. I basically had to leave because the overall economic outlook for the city is sad, as they swear up and down that the auto industry will rebound. Also, just the overall backstabbing nature that most Ohioans seem to foster. They really don’t like to see you progress in any way, shape or form. I got a promotion that moved me to San Diego, and my then fiancee’ hated the idea of leaving Toledo. She was so afriad of finances, regardless of the fact that my company was giving me 100% relocation pay. After explaining to her that we can live in a nice apartment and save some money that way, she flipped out and left me for some drug dealing bum that got her pregnant. I don’t know what’s up with that, but I’m glad, because I love SD, and life is much more affordable by myself. To anyone who lives in Ohio, get out and never come back. I know I won’t.
I 100% get the “You’re going to fail/die/commit suicide/implode/combust!” whenever I’m dumb enough to discuss leaving with a native.
I just don’t get why they have to say that but it’s a pretty successful tactic. I’m still here bitching about it.
Congrats Ron
I’m right behind you. F@ck Ohio, and all it’s backwards trash ass residents.
“After explaining to her that we can live in a nice apartment and save some money that way, she flipped out and left me for some drug dealing bum that got her pregnant. I don’t know what’s up with that, but I’m glad, because I love SD, and life is much more affordable by myself. To anyone who lives in Ohio, get out and never come back. I know I won’t.”
I agree Ron and the point you made goes with the point I want to make. You may be living somewhere with high expenses and it may be difficult to save money, but because you have a decent job and live in a better city than anywhere in Ohio, you know you will be better off and you will know it. Who says you have to force yourself to get married anyway? You are lucky you could move because of your job. I am working here trying to save up money to leave and get the hell out as you probably read in my last 2 posts/rants. After looking at Forbes.com’s “Best Cities for Singles” and “Best Cities for Jobs” and looking at reviews on Travel websites, I know now for a fact that about 80% of major cities or metropolitan areas out there are better places to live than any of the 5 major cities in Ohio. Especially Cincinnati and Youngstown, who have no economy going whatsoever for them.
Ohio is the best example of a state where people look at you funny if you do anything weird or don’t carry yourself the way most Ohioans do and say “We don’t do this here.” It’s almost like the majority of Ohioans, at least in the major cities, don’t care about anything or improving themselves and have no direction in life whatsoever. It’s like they want to stay poor and have a bunch of children, especially at a young age, and then sit at home all day and do nothing. Does anyone else also notice how the majority of people are just worthless and degenerate and are like 10 years behind on everything? I’m sorry but it just annoys me to see people in the mall or out in public wearing their pajamas or dressed like bums and don’t even realize how uneasy on the eye it looks.
Check out this website: http://www.forbes.com/careers/2008/01/11/jobs-economy-growth-lead-careers-cx_mk_0110cities_table.html
I love it how the typical stuck up observers that stand around in that culture talk stance with their little coffee cups say that people are unhappy in Ohio are unhappy because they are uneducated. Yeah I know it’s as run on sentence Ohio analyzers so anyways I would rather be outside than standing in museum , I have time to do that when I am a senior citizen. Half the people that live here are so shallow they love to learn their little facts to tell their studffy dry lifeless friends that have to get shitfaced to be happy cause they are misweable I wanna move somewhere that I can look out the window and see sunshine and plants all year round I’m sick of wasting my life indoors
I love how people who like ohio say that all these great people were born/lived here. Except the only reason they became great is because they lived in this armpit of the world called Ohio and wanted to get out! I know I do.
The legal system is nothing more then a corrupt money making business.They cash in on human misery every day.God help the people in authority there.They are surely hellbound for what they do.
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Yeah it’s sad one of the leading industries in Cleveland is the tattoo industry. Lots of them have left. The only growing ones are hospitals, medical, and our favorite, the insurance companies. Oh and those business with the one day pay loans (Cash only) type places are all the sudden popping up everywhere. And that will make things worse for the economy around here but this state voted for it to keep financial options. But going back to what someone said in a previous post, yeah sure seems like people in Ohio including certain businesses don’t like to see people prosper and grow on themselves. Especially college graduates like me who got lead on and backstabbed by certain companies while trying to find a real job for a year. I got turned away by some just because I had a college degree.
I think Ohio is the only state that will have companies turn away from someone just because they have a college degree because they would care more about how much money they would have to give a new employee regardless of their qualifications. In the end they only care about how much money they end up with at the end of the year and nothing else. Like I said Ohio is full of people who don’t care about seeing people prosper and grow in life. I have a dual degree and I am working a part-time job right now because I can’t find any company who is smart enough to take a chance on me because they want to avoid paying me what I really deserve. Gotta love those women in HR who think they know what they are talking about. Women are just stupid in this state.
To put it to the test, I applied to 4 businesses in Chicago in one day and 2 of them replied back to me the very next day wanting to schedule an interview. I applied to 60 places in a year here in Ohio and only got 5 interviews. Again certain places I’ve applied to have hired stupid women who have dropped out of college to fill certain positions just because they had big boobs and were hot or probably felt sorry for them. Banks like to do that. Or they have hired a bunch of lazy minorities just to have diversity. Right now I am working my ass off just to gain money to go and live somewhere else so I can start living and have a real job and not get underpaid, and meet REAL open-minded people. I guarantee no matter what your job or career is in Ohio, you will get underpaid.
And every other family in Ohio probably has at least one fat person in their family, one person with at least one tattoo, or one person who loves Ohio State. I will say this, people are more open-minded and friendlier in Michigan than in Ohio. But knowing someone from Ohio they will probably not believe me because it’s Michigan. They think they aren’t supposed to care about Michigan and thinks everything sucks about it just because they think they are not supposed to give a damn about it. That’s what annoying OSU fans will do to you. But a typical Ohioan will be known to judge a city or state and form all these opinions about it even though they have never been there. That’s how stupid people from Ohio can be. Detroit has actually improved its economy better than Cleveland has in the last 8 years, that’s sad. Go to Forbes.com people and search “best cities for jobs”. 5 out of the 6 major cities in Ohio are in the bottom 20 out of 100 in job growth and income growth. No other state has come close to that. I have been to about 10 states outside of Ohio and I gotta tell ya, no other state has as much apathy about life or goals in life in general than people in Ohio.
This trashy state is the worse state I have ever lived in, and I have lived in some of what most here would consider “high class” areas like for example West Lake or Bath Ohio. The people here are truly twisted, and I cannot wait to get the f*** out of here.
The people are unfriendly and everyone has their little clicks. I am a New England girl by birth and have lived several places in my life, but I would compare living here to living in the worst 3rd world country you could ever imagine.
Most of the people that I have met are backwoods, and trailer park, fat dumpy looking, stringy hair, no teeth,racist. I have met racist people all my life, but I think most of them congregate in ohio.
I hate this place and I cannot wait to leave!!!!
You can have this “HORSE SHIT STATE” AND ALL THE F***ED UP PEOPLE IN IT. AND THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
I have never been so depressed as I have since I have been here. If it weren’t due to certain circumstances in job promotions and a career, I would have been gone a long time ago. I have been here 6 of the longest years of my life , and after purchasing a house here, now i have to wait until the housing market is sane again. The people here are very judgemental and argumentative. Just down right rude. Anyone who say they love it here has never traveled the world and discovered other cultures and the great things in this world. I have so i know from experience. The people of ohio can keep this place and they know where they can SHOVE IT!!!!!!!!!
I agree metropolitan girl. And Pennsylvania and Michigan aren’t far behind with how depressing people are and certain areas are. But at least these 2 states have nicer people overall than in Ohio and have more pleasant things to look at. People in Ohio spend more time plowing and shoveling snow than exploring the great things life has to offer. There is so much to see in other states if people in Ohio would only leave here and take a look.
Go out west, more things to do, more things to see and enjoy, more people who are worth being friends with, more things that will convince you life is good, better scenery, less smokers, less degenerate areas to live, etc. I have been to Denver, Phoenix, and Houston each for about a week with friends or just for the sake of travel. The negativity is like night and day compared to Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Toledo. The people in those cities are on opposite end of the negativity/positivity scale. And way way way less smokers out there than in Ohio. Here in Cleveland, every 3rd person is a smoker it seems like.
And if you are a recent college graduate like me, especially with a dual degree, I guarantee you it won’t take you 1 year to find a decent full-time job. Because people aren’t stupid and won’t pass up on you when you have a degree like Cleveland would. And most cities out west won’t have worthless, misleading companies either, I’m sure. Especially the ones that think door-to-door sales or just sales in general is the same thing as marketing. Houston, TX and Denver, CO have real businesses who actually have a mission and follow it. And probably not as many shallow and rude people working for them out there too. In Ohio, you have to do a bunch of ass-kissing just to get anywhere. Because I have done research on companies around here and have applied to about 60 of them in Northeast Ohio, and it gets more and more frustrating every time. I applied to get a job with the Cleveland Cavaliers and couldn’t have made it any more clear I wanted to work for them. I have lots of leadership experience and volunteer work and a college degree as I already said. They turned me down because I was “too educated”. OK, define “too educated” for me? To not be “too educated”, does that mean going to college for 3 out of the 4 years and not graduating with a degree? Does that make me considered just “educated”. I almost choked on my food when I read that on my laptop. Only in Ohio would they come up with that kind of concept. Need I say more about this place?
Ryan and metro girl you guys have great posts, and you are both sooo right on the money. This shit box of a state leaves a trillion things to be desired. Especially if you’re young sophisticated and educated. You wont find ANY job or ANYone on your level in this sorry ass state. I mean it’s not even worth the hassel. Time is too precious to waste away in some piece of trash state like O-Hell-O. Oh and that too educated nonsence is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard..ONLY IN TRASH BOX OHIO would you ever here that shit..
The state needs to be nuked. What more can I say. From the fat and nasty people to the dullness and boring mean biased spirted hypricital folks there. I hope the Ohio State Bumblefuckeyes rot.
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Ohio has to be one of the most retarded states ever. The people are rude, and don’t even get me started on the asshole drivers who cant drive to save there own frekin’ lives! i am from texas and i am a proad texan, they may have hillbillies down there, but god! up here there everywhere! the politians are rats and cheap-ass, double crossing,back stabbing dickwads who rip people off! the state didn’t really become a state untill the 1950s! i’m serios! look it up, you’ll see that it should be 49th state of the union…if you even want to call it a state! the cops are currupt, cleveland sucks, the sports teams suck, every frickin’ thing about the state…SUCKS!
how do ohioans keep their fucking licsences!? i mean really i used to live in ohio and some jackass cut me off and what do you think he was doing? talking on his fucking cellphone!
and where did their football team come up with that fucked up name? BROWNS brown is the color of shit so what does it mean they cant play worth shit! and the indians are the most racist mothers i have ever seen first they make a racist symbol of a red skinned indian then they keep the name now i know that ohio used to be a state of indians but if you are that racist why dont you tell a hispanic to mow your lawn and wash your car…oh wait you do do that!?… (he he i said do do)any ways ohio sucks brown indian monkey ass!
go COWBOYS and fuck those shit players!
oh and merry christmas!
O-Fuck-O (Ohio) is definitely a sewer..because there is nothing in shitbox Ohio but white trash, ghetto rats and horse shit!! every damn day..Ohio has all the components of a sewer, trash, rats, and shit..Fuck You Ohio and ALL of you piece of shit residents..
Everyone knows you can’t do a damn thing in this state, especially during any season that isn’t summer. All you can do in January is drink, sleep, put up with the Ohio State fans for a little longer, and wait for the snow to melt. In February, you can sleep, go outside and realize hardly anyone lives in you area because everything looks so dead, watch people get fatter, and wait for the snow to melt. In March, you can sleep, watch dumb women walk around in skirts or clothes that don’t fit them when it’s 55 degrees outside, see more cigarettes and fast food wrappers fly around everywhere, and wait for the snow to melt. I don’t think anyone in this state knows how to keep things clean, or just clean in general. In April, you can pray for a 65 degree day to come, watch the few parks that exist become ghettofied, smell the stinky air from the potholes/sewers, and stay inside from the pouring rain almost every day. In May, you can watch or avoid massive road construction that flourishes everywhere and hope the summer comes ASAP. Any guy could make a lot of money being a construction worker in this state.
I’m not even going to go on but you get the idea. Ohio is so retarded in everything. I leave you with another thought. Politicians are terrible money sucking people in this state and obviously don’t care about the future of this state and have taken the hope out of everyone who lives in this god awful state. Ask yourself, “When was the last time I saw my city’s mayor, or state governor in person, and when was the last time I heard them reaching out to the community or state I live in?” Think about it…………..it’s ok, I got time……….Alright sorry times up.
Gosh, when will Ohio drivers actually learn how to drive and get off their cell phones? When will they stop pissing off other drivers and not be ignorant about it? Ugh!!!
OK, so I’m one of those who “escaped” Ohio – Cleveland to be exact. I have lived in NH for about 8 years. Growing up in Ohio, I used to dream about New England – how wonderful it would be to live here. What I discovered is this: A place can be beautiful, but if the people have ugly attitudes then nothing else matters. I have generally found New Englanders to be very self-centered, judgemental and downright cold. It took me a long time to adjust to living here, and I still feel I haven’t completely. I lived in Lakewood for a few years before moving up here, and I really missed it – friendly people, that great little Thai restaurant, Aladdins, being right on the lake, etc.. Also, family counts for something, too. If all of your family lives in Ohio, try moving to that place you think is “perfect” – you may find it’s not what you had imagined.
Hey what is this world coming to? I mean Joe Prezdski (a.k.a. Joe the Plumber) is now a reporter? I heard about this on WNBC TV in New York City. And when I saw him on the news he sounded stupid as ever. BTW Joe the Plumber is from Toledo, OH. Makes you wonder.
I need to escape this state. The women here suck. They can’t take care of their emotional issues, are depressing, and create their own drama. The majority of people here are ignorant to what little things this state has to offer, especially the city of Toledo. People do nothing outside of work and drinking at the bars. People in Ohio don’t go to bars for occasional enjoyment, they go to bars to bitch and complain about everything that they possibly can. I am too ambitious and open-minded to stay in this hell hole of a state. Anyone who lives here realizes that everyone including themselves get up, go to work, come home, do nothing, go to sleep, get up, go to work, etc. This is nothing to do outside of work. There are many places where you can observe ghettoness and eavesdrop on unintelligent conversations with the men or the ridiculous conversations of the hagged-out, overweight, worthless women.
Someone explain to me why the majority of the single scenes anywhere in this state consist mainly of rude ugly people and middle-aged divorcees? Lots of entertainment places in Toledo and Cleveland are sausage fests and if there are women, they will either be way too skinny, fake, smokers (which makes them 10 times more ugly), or overweight bar-hopper slutty women. I’m convinced that if you live in Ohio, are white, have a college degree, have a decent job, are not 30 yet, and are single and good-looking, you won’t find too many other women on your level or women who actually would be attracted to you. It’s a proven fact that the women in Ohio like ass-hole guys with a bunch of gay looking tattoos, muscles, and a mouth that likes to swear every other sentence. For you military guys, you have more to choose from, you’ve met your requirement. Any women around Toledo or Cleveland, would gladly bang you for free, publicly or privately.
In the meantime, I am not going to lower to anyone else’s level and have other Ohioans effect my intelligent level. I am going to make effort to leave this place and hope to never come back. Just have to keep working my underpaid job for an unreliable company and save up some money just incase I get let go out of nowhere like some other people around here have told me.
Man oh Man..I just took a drive through Columbus and OMG does Columbus look like shit! I mean I don’t know why I was expecting anything better.I mean it is in piece of shit Ohio..Ohio is the ugliest,most pathetic, shitbox of a state in the country..I’ve got to get the fuck out of this ugly ass state.
“I have no money, I am a failure, my leaders have led me to ruin, and I welcome the absolving embrace of death”
…and most of all he couldn’t get out of O-H-I-O.
It’s very simple. The smart people get out of Ohio to have a better life or start a better life while they can. Those are the people who are more ambitious and more open-minded. The rest just stay here and think life is good, but they don’t realize what other parts of this country they are missing out on. As much as I would not like to live in California with all the strange liberals and such, I know I would be better off than living in Ohio. There is not one single city in this state worth living your life in. This state and its cities are so gosh darn miserable with nothing to offer its residents but a bunch of depressed looking drunks to watch.
The economy is miserable, the close-minded people make you miserable, and last but not least, the scenery is miserable. I talked to several friends who just packed their things and up and left here and already knew after a week or two that they would be better off there and had no regrets leaving. Every one of them said to me, “Hey Andy, you really should move here, there are jobs everywhere compared to what is in Cleveland.” “The size of downtown Cleveland is like a thimble compared to the size of downtown Chicago.” For me, it’s just a matter of saving up money to get out of this sorry excuse for a state. No one deserves to live here, if you are goal-driven, you deserve better, plain and simple.
I have to agree with westwood1 about converting the state into a glass plain. Might make it easier to drive through without stopping.
The only luck I have here is bad. Luckily my dream of leaving is one property closer now.
Ohio does suck. For some reason, if you go to any bar on the west side of Cleveland, people won’t be friendly with you unless they’ve known you their whole life. I also figured out that if you try to be friendly with some of the degenerate people in those bars, they won’t be friendly back unless you buy them a beer or let them bum a cigarette off of you. Hmmm…. sound strange I know. Also on the west side of Cleveland, it seems like almost every woman who is single is single because she probably couldn’t stop cheating with the last guy she was with or because she smokes, which made her 10 times more ugly so no intelligent guy would want her. Why are so many women hagged out? Especially the ones in their mid 20’s, they look like they are 10 years older some of them. And I’ve come across a lot of young waitresses who are bitchy for some reason and they wonder why they don’t get many tips. And no one can’t possibly live their dream in this state. All you need to do is look at how ugly and empty most of the cities are and the failures around you who smoke and drink cheap light beer every day.
You know, I could pick ANY state in the U.S. and pick it to pieces.. The fact is, it is entirely a matter of preference. It’s funny though, especially in the middle portion of the country, how most of the people who have never even attended college, can’t spell the word college, or give you the location of the college they so blindly support sports wise, root for these seemingly precious college sports teams that mean, in reality, absolutely nothing to them. Two prime examples; Michigan and Ohio. I lived in Michigan for 5 years, believe me, they are the main reason the word retarded was entered into the Websters dictionary. The state is a garbage dump for Canada, all of their lakes are polluted, the food absolutely sucks, all of the whites want to be black, and unemployment should be their state motto. The only thing good about Michigan, is that the women love to suck dick.. Ohio sucks too, I was born there, left there, came back, left etc.. People are idiots, can’t drive for shit..
Ohio isnt for pussies like all of you. Ive lived in other states, and Id rather live here in Cleveland. Yeah, its a dirty, nasty polluted hell hole, but its our hell hole. People arent fucking fakes like they are down south or on the west coast. We work for our living here, we dont expect a handout. As for people on the west side being hostile, its cause your a dick or a suburban chode. Go fuck yourselves.
!Ohio definetly does blow, i’ve lived in Dover for 19 years now and I’m 19. Hah, its a waste of space in the union! Come to Ohio on vacation leave on probation! Its fucking redicilous the laws the redneck authority the lesbian probation officers. Fuck that shit! The weather is horrid, the indians blow. lebrons leaving the cavs. About the only good thing for ohio is our colleges, Athens and Kent, and a few other good ones. But to say the least, Fuck you ohio.
Yeah Ohio, there could not be any worse of a state, except maybe New Jersey. But I have been to 15 different states in my life and the job market, the entertainment, the scenery, and the weather could not be any worse than the metro areas of Ohio. There is nothing to do in Cleveland, Toledo, and Cincinnati. The metro areas of Ohio have nothing great to offer its residents and the politicians of the state certainly are being very incompetent to help make things better.
If you are young and want to be somebody and live a decent life, get out while you can. I had to leave the state to get experience and it was well worth it. I met way better people down in North Carolina than Ohio. Not to mention their metro cities have decent job growth. And there are better things to look at rather than factories, gas stations, and cornfields everywhere. In Ohio, there is a ton of worthless white trash who think labor jobs are a decent living. All people in Ohio want to do is drink beer, smoke, and eat food. Ohio has that luster than just won’t let people reach their full potential. After having been to Toledo, Cleveland, and Cincy, I have never met so many negative and close-minded people in my life. In North Carolina and Tennessee, everyone is positive and helpful, even to strangers.
All I can say is, to young people who don’t have much job experience, move to a city with a better job market, who will take a chance on you and not turn you down when you have a college degree. When I applied for jobs in North Carolina about a year out of college, half of them called me back within the next couple days. In every single interview I had, the interviewer was shocked that I still didn’t have a job yet after a year. And because of how strong my resume was. I had a college degree with experience in 3 different organizations, and had a strong background with computer software. Well that’s Ohio for you, what can I say. Ohio f*cking sucks. This sorry excuse for a state can go to hell. The only time I am ever going back is to visit. Every single major city gets worse every year and I wonder why. Terrible mayors, terrible government, corrupt police forces, terrible real estate, terrible urban planning, more mean and degenerate people, etc. I love North Carolina, you can’t go wrong living in Charlotte, Raleigh, or Greensboro.
Wonderful post Greg ,couldn’t have said it better.
Another thing I never understood was the fact that Ohio is in the Midwest but like 80% of the people in the state act like Southerners and love their country music. This state is full of guys who act like assholes and think it’s cool. They love to treat people like shit and think it’s cool. They love to put people down to make themselves look better. Especially true in Cleveland. There are high levels of douchebaggery in almost every suburban bar around Cleveland. I have never seen so many women who are ugly and or fat but act like whores and think they are hot. Go to a bar in Cleveland or Akron, the bartenders are snotty and are bitches or assholes who will put you down if you aren’t there to get shitfaced. Better cities probably don’t have bartenders who give you a weird look just because you took 5 extra seconds to decide on what drink to order.
I have been to major restaurants in the Cleveland and Akron areas and compared to the major restaurants in Chicago or Milwaukee, it has 10 times worse service and 10 times more unfriendly people. The servers in Milwaukee and Chicago, and even down in the Carolinas, don’t avoid you or push you out of there just so they can take their cigarette breaks. The kind of women you meet in the bars in those areas aren’t middle-aged divorcees or slutty whores who have 3 kids with 3 different fathers. Those women probably become classy before they become legal. Good luck trying to find those women in Ohio. And last but not least, is there any other state that has more cliques and “people knowing everybody” type of bars than in Ohio? Shit gets annoying.
Greg,
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Toledo was a nightmare and a joke. I now live in San Diego, and I love it. What everyone on here says is true…I’d rather have an apartment in SD than live ina mansion in Toledo, OH. Wrap your mind around this scary thought…the nightlife and women in Cleveland are actually better than in Toledo. So, that gives you an idea how bad I had it for 2 years. lol
I can’t believe i found a website with people who understand what i’m thinking. I grew up in Philadelphia, and i never saw or heard of a white ghetto until i moved near Youngstown Ohio. The bars suck, with the most hideous women i’ve ever seen. The women in Ohio must all take the same class in high school called bitch about my life 101. The white kids act like they are gangster rappers, but when you tell them they are about to loose some teeth, they automatically change their voice which is funny. The shitiest bars have dress codes LOL. I go home to Philly a couple times a year and i sit in a irish pub and soak up the history and atmosphere since Ohio has none. The people who i employ won’t work more than 3 days a week so they don’t lose welfare benefits. Everyone is on drugs and that is not a overstatement. We had druggies in my neighborhood in Philly, but they at least did not brag about it like it is a badge of honor. I’m friends with some cops and they tell me i’m not crazy. Whatever you do don’t move your family here, take it from me and this blog. I’ve tried to think about that maybe i’m being hard on Ohio, but everyone who has traveled and comes back says the same thing. In closing, Ohio is a big open sewer,with religious nutcases who are all on welfare and sit on porches and complain about why life sucks. Here’s a thought, make Ohio the official Goth state, that’s very fitting. Oh and do research on why some of the most horrific serial killers in America grew up in Ohio.
Scott,
Ohio could be called several names. The Road Kill State, since there is road kill every 2 miles on every freeway. The Garbage State, since there is garbage along the side of many roads around the city, including cigarette butts and black and mild mouth pieces out the ass. The Close-Minded State, since every other person is close-minded and is stuck in any year before 1988. The Unemployment State, since pretty much the job growth has never increased in at least the last 12 years. I would rather give that nickname to Michigan though.
The city of Cleveland is ranked 4th poorest city in the US, 7th highest in crime rate and the 9th most unsafe city to live in, according to Forbes.Com and CNN. The population has dropped an average of 1.1% annually since 1998. Cleveland was the 23rd most populated metro city in the US in 1990. As of 2009, it is the 42nd most populated metro city, which is almost dead last. The drop of 19 ranks since 1990 has had no other city come close to that. Not even Jacksonville, FL, Kansas City, MO, or Providence, RI. Can’t say I am surprised. It is probably going to continue like this as long as we keep having uneducated left wing nuts living here and liberal mayors.
P.S.- To anyone who wants to move to Ohio, your first order of business should be to learn how to avoid the annoying and bandwagon Ohio State fans at all times. Don’t be ashamed if you don’t like Ohio State and all their O-H-I-O gayness. Just be prepared to be treated like an degenerate from the Middle East if you don’t worship them.
You think Cleavland is bad try living in Norwood a ghetto surrounded by ghettos. Break ins are common place and happen in two stages one to see if you have anything worth stealing two the actual theft home invasions are bad there also I’ve personally foiled about twenty. assaults both violent and non violent are frequent at one point in the 90s you couldn’t step out on to your porch without some white boy hoodlum harassing you. The city itself is dirty trash littering the streets go to one of their city parks and it’s nothing to see empty beer cans and bottles, wine bottles, fast food containers and wrappers, and cigarette butts all over the place along with graffiti and busted up vending machines. The whole city for the most part is nothing but bullies, thieves, thugs, and druggies with a few exceptions you can’t go to a bar without being hassled or getting into a fight and the police are a joke.
I currently live in Cleveland, Ohio. I moved from one shitty city to the next when I left Youngstown, OH for this dumpster of a city. I lost my job some ways back and I still have not been able to find a position that meets my monetary needs. I am a college graduate who is disgruntled at the fact that jobs are scarce in Ohio..particularly NE Ohio. There is nothing here but retail and telemarketing jobs…there is no real future in that stuff. Yes, the economy is bad, but, Ohio was in a recession way before this economy hit rock bottom.
Speaking of Cleveland..this place fucking sucks. Everyone here is a LeBron James/Cleveland Cavaliers fan..everyone seems to EMBRACE the Cavaliers. I can understand why..because he is the only hope for this craphole. It is ALWAYS raining or snowing here..it’s raining now in fact! The attitudes of the people that live here is nothing like I’ve ever seen before. People are always angry, they are not open to difference of opinion, overly aggressive and wildly insecure. Not to mention, these people drive like complete CRAP. I agree with whoever said “If you’re young, ambitious and want to be something in life..then you need to get out of Ohio”. Fuck this place, I am out of here next opportunity that I get.
I am so with you..I’m 25 years old ,and I am freaking out because my youth is leaving me and I’m still sitting here in this piece of shit state..Cincinnati(Shitinati) is the ass crack shit hole of the universe. I can’t wait to leave this ghetto trash hell hole.I’m about to fight like hell and save all I can so I can be rid of this dumb ass place within 2 years..
Have a riddle for you guys.
What is the difference between a woman from Ohio and a woman from anywhere else in the US?
A) A woman from Ohio cares more about Ohio State than finding a decent guy/non ass-hole
B) A woman from Ohio think douchebags in bars/clubs make great boyfriends/husbands
C) A woman from Ohio wears short skirts and flip flops when it is 55 degrees out.
D) A woman from Ohio always has something to bitch about and/or bitches at her boyfriend/husband every other day
E) All of the above
lmao…Reading all of these posts makes me so happy I left. Like a few others on this site, I lived in Toledo, OH for a couple of years. I was married to a local girl. Let me tell you, whoever said Ohio women cheat on you as quick as they can breathe was not lying. I’m a Network Administrator for Google, yet my “wife” cheated on me with a low life from Cleveland. Go figure. Anyway, I won the divorce…got to keep ALL of my money…successfully sold my house in BORING Perrysburg…transferred to Seattle…and I am now a happy 30 year old, slender bachelor who is enjoying the life that I was “RE” blessed with. It’s funny, because now my ex is now broke because of her felony finding boytoy. Toledo, in a nutshell, was a craphole of a town. ALL the women, yes even my ex, are at least 270lbs with 3 kids by 4 different guys. lol. Toledo is a living Maury show. Not to mention the lack of culture, nightlife, happiness, fitness, and just plain things to do. Going to Buffalo Wild Wings to watch the Buckeyes game was all they ever wanted to do. I tell you…I couldn’t be happier that I left. I read all the posts by Jerold on here. He hit Toledo spot on. I don’t really know about Cleveland or Cincinnati(Spelling error). I never travelled that far into Ohio. My ex always wanted to go to Columbus, which I was not impressed with in the least bit. Ohioans think of Columbus as the center of the world…but it’s just the center of their world. Everyone is miserable there, and I’m glad I left. Save you youth. Leave Ohio!
Ohio is unfortunately experiencing the contraction it needs to handle what its economy can produce. When the economy is suffering and the state can not attract the bright young interesting people, then an Ohio resident can expect what everyone has complained about above.
I was at Roverfest in Cleveland yesterday. Yes, the event probably attracts a certain type, but I think it was reflective of what a lot of the young people are like in Cleveland. Close to 90% of the young white men were dressed with baggy jeans, white shoes, the neatly trimmed beards, and big chains. Tattoos galore. Most of them appeared angry as they were talking on their cell phones. “Shoot”,”Where you at?”, “Hell No”, “Fuck That”, “I’m gettin that money” and running after they said that was occuring. I imagine this type of behavior is helping accelerate the job growth.
Socialism, of course, is not helping any of the big cities in Ohio either. Welfare states, single mother families, all add to the cancer we have to fight off.
Other states such as Indiana, Pennsylvania, and Missouri have got to suck too. Iowa has to suck.
I’m Sorry, but, Ohio has always been 10-15 years behind the other states in the U.S…particularly Northeast Ohio. After Ohio lost it’s industrial stronghold, it never did anything to “diversify” it’s economy. Alot of other states have the biotech industry, strong financial industry etc. What does Ohio have? Hmm…farming, very light financial industry, diminishing factory jobs and lots of retail. An educated person cannot sustain themselves in these industries. That is why the people who go to college here graduate and quickly move out of the state.
Ohio also cannot attract employers here. 1) the population is poorly educated, 2) Noone wants to live here..the weather absolutely sucks. Don’t get me started on the NE Ohio winters. It’s always raining, snowing, bitter cold or extremely humid. 3) Ohio taxes are so ridiculous that employers don’t want to relocate here. Not to mention that we have a state government full of corrupt politicians.
To the guy above who spoke about the young men doing the cursing etc…that’s Ohio for you. A state full of disgruntled, uneducated people with very ugly attitudes.
I am saving up and planning to make my own exodus very soon. I personally can’t deal with it. There are people sitting around here wasting their lives working low level jobs. There are also people who have been waiting for YEARS and YEARS thinking that the steel mills are coming back. Well guess what? THEY AREN’T COMING BACK PEOPLE! This recession is only going to cripple Ohio even more. Hell, Ohio was in a recession years before this mess even started. Once it’s over, due to a lack of a diversified economy…the exodus of previous employers etc…Ohio will be in even worse condition economy wise.
I am out of this craphole as soon as the right opportunity presents itself. I can’t take this bullshit anymore..seriously. Anyone who decides to stay here is an unambitious fool.
Ohio is a sad sad state. The tattoo industry is growing more than the financial industry is, that’s how bad the economy is here. More and more companies are leaving. A young person looking for a professional job around here will take at least 6 months to find a decent one. Forget finding one that pays well, they are all underpaid. I have a buddy who has a pre-med degree and he is working a job doing research that pays the same as a secretary, barely over $30,000. Are you kidding me? Almost all of the starting salaries for jobs in places like Washington D.C., Denver, CO, and Nashville, TN are in the high 30’s/low 40’s.
Screw Ohio had it right, there is nothing but retail and factory jobs here. And lots of telemarketing companies. And I love how everyone thinks Columbus is the greatest city ever and that it’s the center of the world. There are plenty of rude and uneducated people there too. It’s sad that West Virginia is hiring for more jobs right now than Ohio is. And West Virginia has only like 2 major metro cities. Ohio has 88 counties which means plenty of school districts. But West Virginia still has the higher percentage of districts right now that are hiring. Thanks Governor Taft for your ignorance.
There seems to be a lot of recent college grads moving down to the D.C. area to find jobs. That’s because there are jobs everywhere near there. The cost of living may be a lot higher than here but you are still probably better off. Most jobs aren’t going to return to NE Ohio and I bet there are hardly going to be any more coming in as much as Obama says there will. As long as the recession continues, more people and businesses will be leaving and when this job crisis simmers down, Ohio will still be worse off because of taxes climbing, lack of ambitious people who have money (no one has money in NE Ohio anymore), and industries never coming back.
I have a 4 year dual degree in Marketing/PR, graduated with a 3.0, experience in 3 college organizations, a page full of volunteer work, have had 5 different jobs in my life, have 4 legitimate professional references, have applied to about 100 places in the last year, still no full-time job, and am contemplating switching career paths. How could any recent college grad want to be in the position I am in? Especially after spending $70,000 on college. I start to wonder sometimes that the people in charge in Ohio don’t want to see people succeed. Probably because they are arrogant idiots who want to protect their own jobs. Most of the places I’ve had interviews with are either pyramid scheme companies or businesses that hire people for temporary reasons and let them go out of nowhere. Ohio needs to learn how to create business friendly atmospheres for the businesses that are here. That may also be a reason why educated people are leaving.
Hello! My husband and I just moved to Southern California from Cleveland, Ohio four months ago. We owe everything that we’ve accomplished in life to Cleveland. We would have never met and obtained our careers if it wasn’t for the buckeye state. My husband and I love travel, but when we weren’t traveling we were discovering great restaurants in Cleveland’s Warehouse district, taking the Cuyahoga Valley scenic railroad tour in the fall when the trees are at their most beautiful, red, yellow, purple green etc. or camping in Hocking Hills in a beautifully made cabin with handmade Amish furniture. Stop for a an intimate concert at House of Blues or attend a Cavs game at the Q, how about a Father’s Day brunch aboard the Nautica queen cruise, there is always a festival of some kind going on. With so many wonderful places to go, we were never bored. The cost of living is affordable and we surrounded ourselves with considerate folks who treated us like family. BUT!!! Considering all of this, we were offered the chance to move to California and jumped at the chance. The weather is incredible and the scenery is absolutely breathtaking where we live. I think we just miss being familiar, knowing where everything is. Oh well, we have a GPS now. I would have never left Ohio if it wasn’t for the terrible weather, six to seven months of bad weather. It gets so cold your bones ache. I would get atleast two serious sinus infections every year. Since we have arrived in California, I haven’t taken one sinus pill, it’s a real miracle. California rent is expensive, but the high gas and electric bills in Ohio kind of evens things out. The weather and scenery was definitly worth it. I will visit Ohio anytime, but we don’t have any immediate plans to go back, I recently visted New York City and found I missed it more. Thanks for everything Ohio, hellooo sunny California!
Ohio is depressing. I left because there was no mental stimulation. Everyone drinks and grazes during the winter. I came to Nashville because its a more active lifestyle and tons of business opportunity. Speakign of comparing shopping malls, the difference is stark. The Cool Springs Galleria in Franklin TN is night and day compared to the old Great Lakes Mall in Mentor, OH thats just falling down. Sad to see malls everywhere become extinct as more open air shopping centers like Lenox Village in Beachwood OH and HG Hill Center in Green Hills TN.
God toledo sucks there’s nothing to do here it’s filled with abanded houses, and the city isn’t cutting the fricking grass and now there’s weeds growing up to my adoment. Now unlike NE there are SOME friendly people if you live in the southside or in beverly the rest is just some mullent loving drug addict rednecks, and white trashplus with African americains fighting over about gang warfare or some stupid thing like it and let me tell you if your not christain or Jewish in this state most of the dumb people will chew you up and spit you out espically if you’re arabic. It was hard to keep the depression down from highschool after 9/11 it went real bad for us I’m telling you about 89% of people making a racist comment dosen’t even make fucking sense. They all ways metion 1 country. Iraq. WTF Now for you people who know there is 1 more than 1 religion in the Middle east 2 The’re a crap load of countries there why only metion 1. This is how stuck up the people are. Oh yah by the way the made the racist comments 2 years after 9/11. What bullshit. Now let’s talk about jobs, now I want to have a job to be a video game designer or something to do with computers, what I get ethier a cheaply paid Docter a pissed off Lawyer because of the Ohio laws there (that I’ll mention that later)a screwed teacher or cheap labor, also some farms which is bullshit beacuse they grow corn like crazy. It could be the next set for children of corn 7 or12 I lost track of the movie. Now I want to go to Dvry since it’s the only college that dose that kind of stuff. I look it up to see where’s the nearest location only to see that’s in Dayton, Columbus, and Cinitnate. That’s when I lost it, with ohio the only bright side is I’m out of Toledo. But come on that’s stupid why is it so necssary to be more than 150 miles away, well blog later.
Ohio….. Full of fake people. Full of people who pretend to be your friend. Full of people who don’t want to have anything to do with you. Full of people who don’t believe in the concept of community. Full of bandwagon sports fans (Ohio State). Full of Steelers fans (still can’t figure that one out). Full of people who think you are an illegal if you dislike Ohio State. Full of rednecks, some of which are more redneck than people in Tennessee or Alabama. Full of people who are pissed off for whatever reason. Full of people who think that having a shit ton of food establishments in your area means you have a lot to do. Full of people with tattoos; ugly ones, ones that make no sense, ones in the wrong places, too many of them, etc. Full of women who can’t wear clothes that fit them. Full of people who think eating Taco Bell means you are on a diet. Full of people with mid 1990 cars. Full of self-righteous Christians. Full of fake Christians. Full of alcoholics. Full of people that stay at home all day. Full of people that wear clothes that are 20 years old. Full of people that complain on a daily basis. Full of people on welfare. Full of people with no degrees but complain about not being able to get a job. Full of 40 year olds working part-time jobs. Full of overpriced colleges/high in-state tuition rates. Full of subpar sports teams. Full of people who still can’t get over the Browns moving to Baltimore, the Cavs losing to the Bulls in 89, the Indians losing in the 97 World Series. Full of overweight women. Full of ugly women that think they are hot. Full of conservatives. Full of people who have lived here their whole lives. Full of people who are stuck in the 1970’s or 1980’s. Full of abandoned buildings. Full of terrible economically developed cities. Full of corrupt politicians. Full of terribly funded schools. Full of underpaid teachers, or better yet underpaid anythings. Full of bars, food establishments, gas stations, any place to get a bunch of alcohol pretty much. Full of police cars and policemen who have nothing better to do with their time but catch speeders, even when they go 7 over. Cedar Point.
Did I miss anything?
I just can’t stand it anymore how people in Ohio think they are better than everyone. It really pisses me off and makes me sick. Most of these people in Ohio need to move down south to be straightened out. People carry themselves like they are better than you and want nothing to do with anyone else. I have lived in Ohio for 3 years and just can’t get over how unfriendly people are up here. I went into a Walmart and had to go through 8 people to get help with something because people just kept avoiding me or walking away from me while I was talking.
Everyone just looks so pissed off and hagged out as if they don’t want to live life anymore. My next door neighbors and people that live on my street don’t even wave back when I wave to them. I offered to invite them over to get to know them and just BS and they were giving me weird looks as if I was crazy. And the economy is like night and day down in Georgia compared to Ohio. There are less taxes, education is more affordable, there isn’t a food establishment, bar, or pharmacy every where you look, and people know how to smile. I know for a fact that if I worked my job I have right now down in Georgia, I wouldn’t be underpaid. I just have to make what I can make.
They say you don’t realize how much you hate living somewhere until you lived somewhere else and want to go back. Well it’s the truth. Thanks Ohio for your 3 years of shitty hospitality and atmosphere of people not even worth knowing.
I just got back from a trip to Columbus, Ohio and I love how EVERYONE there is an Ohio State fan by default. I also love how boring and drab the 90 mile stretch of I-71 is. You literally need to overdose on Prozac to drive ANYWHERE in Ohio. I’ve lived in Ohio all of my life and the drivers and the people here are so disgruntled. All I want is to be around nice weather and nice people. You can’t get ANY of that in this crappy state. People in Ohio are so used to cold weather..that some guy asked me “where was my jacket” and it was like 75 degrees outside. Another thing that you’ve got to love is the economy here. I love how I can’t even find a decent job to be proud of and support my family with. I love how Ohio is STILL stuck in a manufacturing based economy decades after the great depression. I love how people just continue to settle in this wasteland in hopes that the steel mills will somehow resurrect themselves. The auto industry is gone, the still mills are gone and new employers overlook this area because it sucks so bad. Everywhere you drive…all you see are gas stations & retail stores. Retail is the only thing propping up this craphole..and guess what? After Christmas, the retail bubble will burst. The politicians in this state are crooked, selfish a-holes who could care less about Ohioans. The schools systems in every major city are severely behind other states. I swear, I hate this place. I’ve been without a job for a while due to layoffs and I don’t know what I am going to do. My wife is being laid off from her job in October and it sucks. I just want to move out of Ohio and start a new life elsewhere. I fucking hate this piece of shit state.
Ohio Andy you didn’t miss one thing. Ohio is a piece of SHIT and full of a bunch of dumb idiots and f#ck-ups who wouldn’t know a real life if it bit them in the crotch..The count down to leaving this shit-land is ON..
I know leaveohiopasap. But I mean I just can’t stand how everyone assumes that everyone should be an Ohio State fan by default. I can’t stand how people in Ohio have the mentality that they think they are better than you! Whoever said this is the “We don’t do this here” state is right on. I love people from Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois (surrounding states). They have nicer people, waaaaay more hospitable and don’t treat you as an outsider. People from those states come here and are like “What the hell is wrong with this state?” or “What the hell is wrong with the people here, why are they so rude and mean?” My brother went on a date with this one woman and she started liking him less as soon as he told her he wasn’t into Ohio State and didn’t care for them. She was like “I expect this from someone who is from Michigan, but not you.” His jaw just dropped in disbelief. I almost crashed my car I was laughing so hard when he told me the whole story.
I mean whenever I go to Michigan to visit cousins and family, the people there have never ever looked down on me when I said I was from Ohio. They were always just happy that they got a visitor and happy with what they have there and just try to live life. People in Ohio on the other hand carry an automatic negative mentality that makes you want to move even more. People are so close-minded and unfriendly here. You go outside to jog or take your dog to a park, no one ever says hello to you or responds when you say hello to them. I have a very good friend here from Texas and a friend from northern Michigan. They are actually true friends and not fake friends and they don’t like very many people here as do I. So it doesn’t take long to figure things out.
People should move before they are stuck here. This state is crap and a foundation for failure for anyone who wants to get ahead in life. If you don’t know an important person or are semi-good-looking, you are fucked. It’s hard to find a decent woman to marry in Northeast Ohio with normal and good morals, that is not pissed off all the time, is well-educated, knows how to dress herself, doesn’t have tattoos, has non-bitchy friends, and can be a good wife. Feel free to give me an AMEN!
I love living in Ohio. If you do not then you can just get out. The last thing Ohio needs is some whiney, hypocritical, little shit complaining about living here when you are perfectly capable of getting the heck out. You should of stayed in that tourist trap you call a state, also known as Flordia. Pull up your big girl panties and get over yourself!
Hey CoolPenguin,
If you LOVE Ohio soooo much…how did you find your way to a site(forum) entitled “Ohio Sucks”? You don’t just find this place by accident. I don’t believe you. You know that Ohio sucks like the rest of us. Unfortunately, you are probably one of those individuals who are stuck here. You mention about being “capable” of getting out? I believe that is a cover-up for your feelings and not being able to leave this state. Stop trying to convict others and be totally honest with yourself because I don’t believe your false pride and patriotism toward this craphole state.
CockPENGUIN or whatever the fuck you call yourself, Obviously you are one of those idiot retards that think Ohio is glorious.. Go kill yourself..Please!Read the title of this message board.It says Reasons Why Ohio Sucks! If you don’t like what we are saying,get the fuck off our message board you fucking idiot..
AMEN Ohio Andy
My name is Bill…I was born here in Ohio…I am now 43…
In 1988 – my family dragged me back to this piece of Satan’s used SH:# paper kicking and lamenting, because “They were homesick”. That’s a little bit like desperately missing the experience of having a rabid skunk pee on you while your muddling through a bad case of leprosy.
Ohio is Horrid. It is horrible. If you like Ohio -then you are automatically a sado masochistic freak of unnaturalness who also probably likes to be hung from the cieling by your penis with a rusty fishing hook, or force fed live maggots with the business end of a toilet plunger.
This is the kind of place you pray to escape from.
Living here should be a penalty for the worst forms of murder, rape, and pediphelia that can be imagined in the darkest recesses of the inhuman id. Only Hell, or Afghanistan could possibly be worse. I hate this place.
#1 The people here are far more than merely rude. You could pull one from drowning in a river, and they would merely readjust their clothing and walk away from you with their nose in the air like they were fricking entitled. Forget using manners – they WON’T appreciate it. A smack in the teeth would impress them more probably.
#2, You can’t really enjoy either the brief spring / summer months, or the mild autumn spell that lasts about a month or so – because of the constant tornado warnings, and the joy of camping out in your basement, or staying glued to the local weather channel. It’s like a non-stop fear fest – it’s tormenting.
#3, THERE ARE NO GOOD JOBS unless you are a doctor, a nurse, a truck driver, or a heating and air conditioning specialist.
#4, Yes – all that they like to talk about are the Bengals, OSU, NASCAR, guns, or fishing.
#5, YES – most woman of child bearing age here are typically pregnant and / or with three kids in tow. This doesn’t cause nausea in and of itself – except when they whip out the state assistance card while in the store line in front of you, and they’ve got three thousand dollars worth of groceries – most of which is soda pop, potato chips, c.
#6, There is NOTHING to do here at all to have any real fun in the Winter months – and you have to drive for hours to find anything in the summer.
#7, Winters last for seven months typically – and they are painful. It’s so cold it physically hurts you to go outside.You can NOT travel in the winter months unless you HAVE to.
#8, Most of the rivers are polluted horribly here – but you still see people fishing in them…Why?
#9, In the spring and summer it’s like Louisiana. In the fall it’s like England. In the winter it’s like a hundred miles north of Siberia.
#10, People let their dogs and cats run loose constantly – you can’t take a walk without worrieing that a rottwieler will come running from artound a corner at you.
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#11, The people here in Ohio hate you if you use too many “big words”. In short – they make fun of you if you are slightly more intelligent than a wart. Explains why Bush was so popular.
Note – my own mother told me not to use big words around people when I was growing up in this F%&ing landfill most people loosely refer to as a state…
#12 The most popular front yard game in the state is where a bean bag is tossed through a hole in a piece of lumber at 50 paces. They call this game “CORNHOLE”…No more need be said about that. Draw your own conclusions…
#13, My childhood here stank – it reaked – it was unfulfilling, painful, unpleasant, disappointing, and pathetic.
Ending this list on a “13″ note is appropriate.
I have to escape here – but I lack the funds, the transportation, and the preparation – despite years of trying. Please don’t live here if you really don’t have to – and if you do live here and can leave – LEAVE!!!
Leave as quickly as possible. I have had neighbors who have moved out of Ohio – and even though I hardly knew them – I felt like weeping with joy because yet another soul found liberation.
Encourage others to leave Ohio – let’s start a campaign so that everyone will leave Ohio – and let this decrepid shriveled beast finally starve to death for want of more souls to absorb – and die on it’s black and twisted vine.
Let’s make it vacant and urge the government to use this condemnable wasteland for weapons testing, or poxied animal research. This cursed land has claimed too many lives – and has extuingished the twinkle from the eyes of far too many souls who were not born with the natural defences of inbred moronicism or obtuse circumstantial tunnel vision, or a love of the chronically familiar that was so profound as to prevent one from leaving a warm, festering pile of worm ridden SH%T.
I am halfway decent – red blooded heterosexual man with a judeo-christian value set, but I’m almost to the point of prostituting myself out of desperation to escape this House Of Usher called Ohio. It is a pit of doom and a spiritual blood bathe of despair.
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When I leave this place (Ohio) – and find a better place to live (there ARE better places by the way – despite the cultish mooney banter of other Ohioans who tell me “There aren’t any better places to live” because misery loves company), I will hit my knees and thank God with a loud voice for my liberation. Ohio IS oppressive to your mind, your body, and your soul.
I was once told that Ohio was one of the most haunted states in the union. I don’t doubt it.
For those of you who have children, don’t bring them here! Ohio is a lousy place to raise kids – I can gaurantee you. For those of you who have elderly family members – don’t bring them – they’ll be lousy by the medical establishment here.
My sister was brought to a local hospital after a car accident that shattered her spine – and these idiots tried to MAKE HER WALK shortly after entering the emergency room.
Bottom line – KEEP PEOPLE FROM LIVING HERE!!!
Ohio is somewhere in the top ten spaces on the states lists for bankruptcies, pollution / polluted waterways (number 2), teen pregnancy, cancer, diabetes, heart disease, lymphoma, allergies, taxes, lowest wages, infant mortality,
chronic (morbid) obesity, poverty per capita, unemployment, divorce rates, murder, sex offenders, STDs, meth addiction and trafficking, and the heartbreak of severe acne.
Ohio is also one the top states for property damage due to severe weather annually (not a good place to live – that’s why housing is generally cheaper, because you’ll only own it up until a nice breeze sends your shiznak off to the jolly old land of OZ).
If you live in Ohio – best have lots of video and computer games and board games and such – cause you aint goin out of the house NO WHERE from Late November to mid April aside from going to work.
You’ll also need a fortune in Gas Treatment and Antifreeze, and maybe a change of tire or to from them either collapsing too much, or exploding from the -10 degree F weather that starts around Late January / early February.
Ahhh yes – Ohio. Do you know how absolutely wonderful it is to get a brief preview of the subtextural joys of the apocolypse, by having to sit in your house and listen to them test the tornado alert sirens every first wednesday of the month? It’s like living in Silent Hill. It’s a reminder of just how uninhabitable and fruitlessly useless this cess pool really is.
Oh there is no measure possible by mere human standards that can even begin to gauge the absolute contempt that I have for this filthy pergatory.
To people from Tadzikistan, Ohio might be like Malibu on a sunny day, but to everyone else who have tasted life outside of this rot hole, it’s a unbearable adventure in misery.
Why do Mexican immigrants move here? I’m not against them really – and I’m not being biggoted either – I just can’t understand how they could even begin to possibly believe that Ohio is BETTER than Mexico. Why are they running deliberately into agony? Surely no-one could possibly be so desperate except those souls from those rare places upon the tiny blue planet that are worse.
Did you know that Ohio is also one of the states in the union with the most cemetaries per county?
Nearly every town, no matter how big or small, has approximately four cemetaries at least. Not only that, but your also not counting the ancient indian burial sites that are also all over the state. It’s a place of despair.
As you enter the state line – the sign shouldn’t say “Welcome To Ohio” – it should be more truthful. It should read something like “Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here”. This state will trap you because once you move here it will suck your finances, and then when your caught – it will torture you with a litany of dismality, cruel irony, misfortune, emotional turbulence, anti – success, and dirty gray entropic lethargy – like the waters of a luke warm, stagnant spillway full of old sewage and sludge.
Living here is like sliding into a manure pit where the sides are too slimy to pull yourself out of it. It reminds me of that thing in the original Star Wars movie out in the desert – that looks like a hole in the ground with teeth sprouting out of it.
I HATE this place – and that’s an understatement…
P.S. – If you love Ohio – please don’t email me and bad mouth me all over the place. If I could leave Ohio I would, it’s agony to me.
If you want me out of your precious state – then start a collection for me, I’ll need at least $25,000,00.
If you did that for me – then I would love you forever, irregardless of whether or not you were deranged enough to actually enjoy living in a place like this. If I ever had children – I’de name my firstborn after you. I would give you a kidney if you ever needed a transplant. I’de buy you something every Christmas – and also on your birthdays. I would love you dearly. I would weep at the mere mention of your name with sublime devotion and heart felt thanksgiving. If I ever became rich – I’de build a Hospital and name it after you. I would build a monument in your honor. I would be a faithful and devoted friend to you with fanatical – almost religious ferver.
I’ve had my gripe – I’m done with it…
Why are people so pissed off here? It’s like they wake up everyday looking for something to bitch or be mad about. And people actually do say, “You will find the same thing anywhere else.” or “It’s the same everywhere else.” Not true. I don’t care what you think, unless you have been to other places and cities, you can’t say anything. In fact, I know a lot of people who have moved out of state and have tried to make it on their own somewhere else and have come back. And then they realized that there are better places than here in Ohio. I mean ALL OF THEM miss the places they lived before coming back because of finances or jobs transfers. But at least they tried to get out of this hell hole trap that doesn’t want its citizens to succeed like other Americans.
There are way too many jobs that are never coming back here. People have ruined this state and taken it down. Since 1997, Ohio has been negative 40,000 in jobs, while Texas has been positive 500,000 and Tennessee 75,000 in jobs. This a fact from Forbes research and Money magazine. You could probably move to any metro city in Texas and be happy for life and never want to come back to this dreary state. This state has nothing good to offer and its #1 export is people hands down. There are so many things in this state that push people away and I think we all can name off at least 50 reasons.
I like when Bill The Depressed mentioned how you can’t use big words around people here. This one amazes me because I can’t tell you how many times someone gave me that “you are weird” face whenever I used big words or said something intelligent. Or better yet, many people have told me “You’re gonna have to dumb it down for me.” whenever I explained or asked something to them. This even happens at work lol. If you are an arrogant douchebag in this state, people will actually like you, especially true for single women. If you are full of yourself and/or act like a yuppy, you are more likely to get a job for some reason.
After living in this state my whole life, I have concluded the following:
1) No other state could possibly top Ohio in the “I only care about myself and don’t want to have anything to do with anyone who is not like me.” category.
The worst sports teams, need I say more. Miserableness is the gathering point.
2) This state by far has the most people who never say hello back when you say hello to them.
3) This state has a ton of people who complain about their finances but go out the next day and spend an outrageous amount of money on something that they probably don’t need. And then they want help from the government (It’s the bills that aren’t being paid)
4) The state has more Steelers fans than Browns or Bengals fans. I may need a detective to figure this one out, because I haven’t solved this case yet.
5) Ohio has the worst drivers of any of the other 10 states I have been to from all angles.
6) We have the most people who stay inside all day.
7) Ohio probably has the highest alcohol consumption rate per capita than any other state.
9) Ohio has a shit ton of teenagers or people under 21 who are pregnant, already had a kid, and/or have had sex 20+ times already.
10) It’s very difficult to get ahead or succeed in life here with a college education, good looks, volunteer experience, and aren’t a minority. Because people in Ohio don’t think these things are a big deal. (Translation = If you recently graduated college, get the hell out before the idiots here drag you down)
11) Ohio State football is the reason why people get up in the morning.
Well I hope I have been in assistance to anyone who has never had thoughts of leaving Ohio. And to those who have never lived in Ohio, start thinking of a backup plan if you do decide to move here.
Greg,
I was with you until you started talking about not being able to succeed here unless you are a minority. I believe that you are wrong there. Minorities have it bad, not only in Ohio, but everywhere else in the country. Ohio is very racist. I’ve seen alot of racism concentrated in all of NE Ohio and cities like Cincinnati. If you are a minority and you wish to succeed in this state…you are better off looking toward Columbus. Ohio in general sucks, but, Columbus is probably as best as Ohio gets. It’s the only city that has a diverse economy and appears more accepting of difference races and nationalities. Otherwise, you are better off leaving this craphole for all the reasons mentioned above.
Life is tough in Ohio, especially in NE Ohio. The Cavaliers are the only exciting sports team to look forward to. Everything else is depressing. Most cities with teams that have very loyal fans don’t suck as much and don’t have as many bad seasons as the Cleveland sports teams. I have noticed over the past few years that when people are away from their hometown and are asked where they are from, they avoid saying they are from Cleveland and mention the suburb or town near Cleveland instead. I agree with them, the idea is to get that thought out of your head of letting people know you are from Cleveland. Because it is embarrassing. People don’t want to be reminded that they are from Cleveland. I have friends who live down in Texas and Florida and they love it down there because of better weather and job markets. They brag about it all the time. They probably wouldn’t want to remind me where I am living but can’t help it.
I asked my one buddy who works for a magazine down in Dallas, TX, if he ever meets any good-looking single women between the ages of 24-30 that are educated and don’t have a child. He said very often and usually has at least 1 date every 4 weeks. That’s hard to come by over here. Most women around here are pissed off and have kids by accident. They also don’t care about their image as much and it just makes you sigh if you are a good-looking single guy, who is educated, has a job or two, and is looking to start a life. Well actually, sometimes it’s not by choice if you are stuck here when it’s hard to save up enough money and live somewhere else. I hate the mentality in NE Ohio.
Everything good in the business world is kept private, the media has nothing positive to write about so they make up and twist things. Most businesses/companies don’t like recent college graduates and the idea of them succeeding. Rather, they care more about their own finances and worrying about how much money they will be able to hold onto after future retirees leave. There are too many things around here that are backwards, especially parenting and the school systems. Politics are at an all-time high in most districts and they care way too much about being better than the other schools next door. Makes teachers, such as my brother want to throw up.
How the hell can you succeed in life living in Cleveland or Toledo or Youngstown? Especially being on your own and just graduating college, even with a higher degree. I feel bad for all these college graduates with nowhere to go. I guess they have to rely on family businesses if they have them. Or start their own small companies and do jobs that are anything having to do with labor and barely making above minimum wage. Just creates a high volume of people who don’t want to work but want lots of money and expect handouts. No wonder why people are pushing to have casinos in Ohio. They want to try to get money fast and plus the state needs a ton of money from all the crappy funding and spending in the past. I might go out on a limb here and say that leadership doesn’t exist a whole lot in NE Ohio.
No one has a clue on when anything and everything will get better. President Obama is a bum who can’t even run a country and we’ve all seen what he has done to the economy. I am worried I won’t be able to retire or even have social security left for me by the time I am 55. Then he is having trouble keeping his hands off my health care, it just never stops. Nothing is going to grow and get better if everything keeps trying to be universalized.
Greg mentioned how it’s a puzzle to him how there are more Pittsburg Steelers fans here in “FUCK”, I mean “OHIO”, than Bengals or Browns fans. I know exactly why Greg – and I’ll tell you my fellow denizen of the land of filth shit.
Well – it’s like this, these zombies are subconconsciously living vicariously through other states!
Their imagining on a subliminal level that they are actually part of something better – even if it’s fucking PITTSBURGH!!! Sad…Oh man – how pitiful…
If I leave here, I’m never coming back to live here – even if my finances are shot and I’m living in a box under an interstate bypass – because I know it’s an eternal trap, and bad vibes of this magnitude are NOT worth it.
NO FRICKIN WAY!!!
I’ve done that “return to smegma” fucking shit, and it wasn’t even by my choice really – I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN!!!
Some people dream of wealth, others want power, others want to find true love, and still others want to taste sexual experiences that make the mind reel. Me – do you want to know what MY dream is? Do you want to know what causes a tear of joy to well up in MY eyes when I dream about it?
I’ll tell you…It’s to whip out my hose and take a good healthy piss on the highway sign that reads “WELCOME TO OHIO”, and then get back into my car and haul ass in the opposite direction, either west towards Vegas, or south towards Florida, AND NEVER LOOK THE FUCK BACK – EEEVVVEEEERRRR!!!!!
I hear a lot of people on this forum complaining about the sports teams hear in “O-LOW-O”. Hey – we’re in this together – but there are WAY bigger fish to fry here – forget the sports teams issue.
I’m talking about how this place drains you of your will to wake up in the morning.
Seriously I’m thinking that somebody ought to start a rescue fund to help people move the frak outta here man.
YES – yes – yes – there are commonly probably far better looking women on average in prison, than walking around free here in the buttfu..Er..I mean “buckeye” state. Yes, people have a snotty attitude here. Yes – the state in general sucks unwashed porno cock, but seriously – if you can leave, LEAVE! If you can’t leave, like me and most of the people on this forum, then plan to leave.
I’m going to TRY to streamline my budget to evac the hell outta this toilet. I’ve had it.
All of you guys are so off about Ohio, it’s not even funny. Just to let you know I live in Mason,Ohio in the Cincinatti Metro. I moved to Ohio from Pennsylvania. I feel it’s my duty to come in here and correct all you haters. I read a couple of posts here and some of you are right about some things, I think there was one person who mentioned how they pronounce things in Ohio differently, like soda=pop, and broom=sweeper, etc. But seriously, a lot of the things mentioned badly about Ohio are just very negative opinions. I’ve lived in a lot of places as I moved a lot as a kid. I lived in Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Arizona, and Oregon and previously Pennsylvania. Most of those states have a lot more problems than Ohio has. Arizona was a pretty nice place to live, though. North Carolina is growing out of control with redneck hicks surrounding you everywhere you turn, more than Ohio has. Oregon had it’s gloomy overcast skies. For people saying that Ohio is just a bunch of white-bred hicks, then it must just be your neighborhood. Toledo is a very diverse city. Check out the demographics. It has a very quick growing hispanic population. Columbus is one of the fastest growing cities in the whole northern US. Cincinatti is one of the fastest growing metros in the NE and Midwest. Cleveland is one of the most culturally diverse cities in the nation as well as one of the biggest banking cities in the WORLD. Over 300 billion is assets. I can think of two states right off the bat that are worse than Ohio. Like I said I’ve lived in both Michigan and Pennsylvania, they both SUCK. You want to talk about hicks and bad weather just head to Pennsylvania, with the mountains in PA and they way people live and talk you would think you’re in another country. Michigan has the worst economy in the nation. Unemployment through the roof and a high crime rate. Ohio’s unemployment rate is 10.5% compared to Michigan’s 15%.
Talking about cold winters, head to Michigan. The roads there are horrible because they don’t clear them off. You want to talk about bad cities, just look at Detroit and Flint. Urban decay everywhere and crime through the roof. Detroit is the most dangerous city in the nation. Flint not far behind. Pennsylvania has some of the worst freeways in the nation. They’re horrible with potholes everywhere.
My wife moved to Ohio from Florida, and you want to talk about their fair share of problems. Hurricanes are horrible there. They still have damage in downtown West Palm with three highrises abandoned since Katrina. Not to mention the horrible cost of living and the horrible school system. Florida is ranked 45th in graduation compared to 17th here in Ohio. We have many large cooperations based here in Ohio. There is a lot that I didn’t even know were based here.
Also Toledo has the 6th highest amount of development going into the Midwest. Competing with cities like Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Columbus, St.Louis, and Minneapolis. You want to talk about jobs. Ha, just look at Florida where most people make their living off being a waitress or working in the tourism business. Trust me they don’t make much money. I know this because a lot of my family lives there. My brother in-law and his wife are moving from Boca Raton, Florida to Columbus, Ohio for a better education for their kids. They had no problem finding a job here and they got a 600k dollar house in Dublin (a suburb of Columbus. A 600k dollar house in Florida is nothing. It’s very small and probably in a bad neighborhood. In Ohio that can buy you so much with money to spare.
I moved to Ohio from Pennsylvania, I can tell you without a doubt that Ohio is a much better state to live in. I work with many people from across the world that have moved to Cleveland. A lot from West Virgina and Kentucky getting a better job oppurtunity. I have been to many states across the country because my job makes me travel. I can tell you that Ohio doesn’t face near the amount of problems some other states are facing, believe it or not.
Everyone here has shared their opinions, and I’m sorry you don’t like Ohio. Just remember no place is perfect. I had to come in here and correct some things. I know many people who have moved to Ohio and hated it, and some that loved it. Eventually it just comes down to who you are as a person, and what things you’re looking for in life. Don’t blame a state for what it is, but rather blame yourself for not knowing exactly what you will have to deal with anywhere you go.
Mikey, mikey, OOOohhh precious Mikey. My dear, innocent lad, (sigh) – such a starry eyed child.
Mike…I don’t know how long you’ve lived hear in Satan’s Hemmoroids – er – I mean “OHIO”. Mikey…God bless your nieve little soul…I HAVE LIVED IN THIS STINKING FILTH HOLE PRACTICALLY SINCE MY MOTHER CRAPPED ME OUT LIKE A BOWL OF ROOM TEMPERATURE CHINESE FOOD AND DAY OLD RUFFAGE! I WAS B-O-R-N HERE!!!
Oh – You’ll be ok for a while anyway – that is – until it traps you. It’ll start with a minor depression – shortly followed by your life crumbling to pieces, but it’ll happen. Eventually, you’ll taste the wrath and evil vibe of this sink hole. You can’t avoid it. Leave while you can – because if you don’t, then you’ll become a part of this concentric circle in Dante’s Inferno. You’ve been warned little brother. It will chew you to pieces…
Go ahead…Spout statistics if it makes you feel more warm and cuddly in the night. When you said your wife wanted to move here – and I read that – it made a deathly cold shiver craaawwwlll down my lily white spine like the icy touch of doom. Yes, Florida’s not all beaches and smiles, but you’ve walked right into the greyest qwagmire of lethargic entropy and abyssmal decay that you will probably ever know.
They so that to…The lost souls forever chained to this place…”Hey – everyplace you live has it’s down points.” …Yes…They say that to.
Leave this place Mike – or you will forever say that. You will say that one day with gaunt dark circles under your eyes, tears streaming down your face, and a weight like a boulder on your back that you will carry with you as you drag yourself out of your bed every morning.
That phrase will be the one saving grace that you’ll have to cling to.
Bless you Mike – I wish you all the best…
Mike – one final thought…The reason why property prices are so cheap here is because NOBODY WHO IS SANE WANTS TO LIVE HERE! I’m sure property values are low pretty much anywhere that’s physically, culturally, socially, and intellectually desolate, stagnant,and FOUL.
Statistics are BULLSHIT Mike. I’m not great at math really – but I could show you how I could use statistics to demonstrate inarguably to you that people who eat celery on a weekly basis are 70% more likely to be gay, or turn gay, than non habitual celery eaters.
I could prove to you that you are 25% more likely to die in an an auto accident if you sleep on your back every night as opposed to sleeping on your stomach. I could demonstrate how you are more prone to heart disease if your last name has two vowels seperated by a consenant, is no more than five letters long, and ends with an “H”.
Mike – I could even use statistics to persuade you that if you ate blueberry ice cream every new moon for three months – you were going to be inclined to be ass raped by a cross eyed Saint Barnard with a limp. Don’t l;isten to statistics – listen to a native!
If by reading the last two statements you picked up on a subliminal “BUTT” theme – it’s because OHIO IS A BUTT – A HUGE, STINKING, RANCID, UGHLY BUTT! I cannot begin to describe how “Asslike”